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Rob

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:41 pm
Post subject: PLEASE! young Golden with extreme stiffness in hind. diificulty gettting up..
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Hi all. Vet is coming up blank & xrays look clean. No
arthritis/dysplasia evident.

We have a 2 y.o. Golden who has recently been having difficulty
getting up after laying down. At times she has so much difficulty
that instead of getting up and walking away in a different direction,
she will rise to a sitting position with her hind legs not moving and
spin around before trying to get up. We have been to the Vet a couple
of times. Full x-rays showed nothing. Been on condroitin & buffered
asprin (which seems to help some). WHen she first gets up, she may
favor one leg and/or limp, and seems to be stiff, but after she's up
she just wants to run. She has no difficulty tearing around the yard.
It's been 3 weeks and she seems to get better, then worse. so there
hasn't been much change. Difficultt to tell how much pain she is in.
Does not whine or cry, but obviously it's not pleasant getting up.

She comes from a good bloodline, reputable breeder. No sign of hip
problems in siblings (our vet has a half-sister of hers). I have seen
other messages here that sound exactly like her symptoms but never a
follow-up with what the real diagnosis turned out to be.

I would love to see replies here from others who recognise their own
dog in this message. I would prefer to hear from those of you who
have actually been through this. We'd like to know what you have
found so we can make intelligent suggestions to the vet.

Thanks for all your help!
Bless!

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C A Brown

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:18 pm
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The fact that she is able to go tearing around and playing does not mean
that there is nothing wrong. Xrays will only tell is there is bone changes.
Has the vet specifically checked for ACL (ligament) damage. It often shows
itself as stiffness and/or limping after rest. Many dogs with this injury
are very stoic and able to still have a lot of fun. Unfortunately, if the
ACL is torn, continuing to run on it will eventually hasten arthritis in the
knee. Ask if he has done a "drawer test". It is a specific manipulation of
the rear leg that is only possible if the ligament is torn. Surgical repair
and recovery is a 3 to 6 month process. If it happens to be what's wrong,
you can email me. We've been through it twice
Carol Ann


"Rob" <rlak.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:24d0c9bb.0312191241.7397090@posting.google.com...
> Hi all. Vet is coming up blank & xrays look clean. No
> arthritis/dysplasia evident.
>
> We have a 2 y.o. Golden who has recently been having difficulty
> getting up after laying down. At times she has so much difficulty
> that instead of getting up and walking away in a different direction,
> she will rise to a sitting position with her hind legs not moving and
> spin around before trying to get up. We have been to the Vet a couple
> of times. Full x-rays showed nothing. Been on condroitin & buffered
> asprin (which seems to help some). WHen she first gets up, she may
> favor one leg and/or limp, and seems to be stiff, but after she's up
> she just wants to run. She has no difficulty tearing around the yard.
> It's been 3 weeks and she seems to get better, then worse. so there
> hasn't been much change. Difficultt to tell how much pain she is in.
> Does not whine or cry, but obviously it's not pleasant getting up.
>
> She comes from a good bloodline, reputable breeder. No sign of hip
> problems in siblings (our vet has a half-sister of hers). I have seen
> other messages here that sound exactly like her symptoms but never a
> follow-up with what the real diagnosis turned out to be.
>
> I would love to see replies here from others who recognise their own
> dog in this message. I would prefer to hear from those of you who
> have actually been through this. We'd like to know what you have
> found so we can make intelligent suggestions to the vet.
>
> Thanks for all your help!
> Bless!

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Brookie

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Since: Dec 20, 2003
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 9:14 pm
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find a good orthopedic specialist... if you are near ohio there is a
great one in cincinnati named Dr. Schrader


rlak.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (Rob) wrote in message news:<24d0c9bb.0312191241.7397090.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>...
> Hi all. Vet is coming up blank & xrays look clean. No
> arthritis/dysplasia evident.
>
> We have a 2 y.o. Golden who has recently been having difficulty
> getting up after laying down. At times she has so much difficulty
> that instead of getting up and walking away in a different direction,
> she will rise to a sitting position with her hind legs not moving and
> spin around before trying to get up. We have been to the Vet a couple
> of times. Full x-rays showed nothing. Been on condroitin & buffered
> asprin (which seems to help some). WHen she first gets up, she may
> favor one leg and/or limp, and seems to be stiff, but after she's up
> she just wants to run. She has no difficulty tearing around the yard.
> It's been 3 weeks and she seems to get better, then worse. so there
> hasn't been much change. Difficultt to tell how much pain she is in.
> Does not whine or cry, but obviously it's not pleasant getting up.
>
> She comes from a good bloodline, reputable breeder. No sign of hip
> problems in siblings (our vet has a half-sister of hers). I have seen
> other messages here that sound exactly like her symptoms but never a
> follow-up with what the real diagnosis turned out to be.
>
> I would love to see replies here from others who recognise their own
> dog in this message. I would prefer to hear from those of you who
> have actually been through this. We'd like to know what you have
> found so we can make intelligent suggestions to the vet.
>
> Thanks for all your help!
> Bless!
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The Puppy Wizard

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:24 am
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HOWEDY Rob,

"Rob" <rlak DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:24d0c9bb.0312191241.7397090@posting.google.com...
>
> Hi all. Vet is coming up blank & xrays look clean.
> No arthritis/dysplasia evident.

Yeah. That's pretty common here abHOWETS.

> We have a 2 y.o. Golden who has recently been
> having difficulty getting up after laying down. At
> times she has so much difficulty that instead of
> getting up and walking away in a different direction,
> she will rise to a sitting position with her hind legs
> not moving and spin around before trying to get up.

Yeah. It's caused by frequent intermittent low level STRESS.

> We have been to the Vet a couple of times. Full x-rays
> showed nothing. Been on condroitin & buffered asprin
> (which seems to help some). WHen she first gets up,
> she may favor one leg and/or limp, and seems to be stiff,
> but after she's up she just wants to run.

It's called The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

> She has no difficulty tearing around the yard.

RIGHT.

> It's been 3 weeks and she seems to get better,
> then worse. so there hasn't been much change.

The symptoms will change as time goes on.

> Difficultt to tell how much pain she is in.

It's just temporary sporadic pain especially
on gettin up after a rest.

> Does not whine or cry, but obviously it's not
> pleasant getting up.

Right.

> She comes from a good bloodline, reputable breeder.
> No sign of hip problems in siblings (our vet has a half-
> sister of hers). I have seen other messages here that
> sound exactly like her symptoms

INDEEDY. The symptoms don't really matter.

> but never a follow-up with what the real diagnosis
> turned out to be.

professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer has the CURE.

> I would love to see replies here from others who
> recognise their own dog in this message.

The symptoms are interchangeable with every
thing from bladder stones to seizures cancers
and ALL OCD'S, like this:

"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV"

NHOWE we've come to the ONLY logical
conclusion: "When is euth. warranted?"

> I would prefer to hear from those of you who have
> actually been through this.

MOST of HOWER DOG LOVER'S dogs got The
Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME. It's all caused by
STRESS.

> We'd like to know what you have found so we
> can make intelligent suggestions to the vet.

Your vet got no INFORMATION abHOWET this
life threatening DIS-EASE.

> Thanks for all your help!

INDEEDY.

> Bless!

LikeWIZE.

HOWEDY TDC,

"TDC" <tdc310 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4ZPZb.1798$c33.302@fe01.usenetserver.com...
> Hello
>
> I have a cocker spaniel (is not a Cavalier King Charles)...
> a male..... he has now 5 month.... veterinary found my
> dog in good health condition...
>
> Is suffering "episodic falling"..... I found a description in
>
> www.ivis.org .....
>
> Looking for someone with experience with this
> condition.... how to deal ... some advice.....
> will be very apreciated....

> Greetings...
>
> Thomas Del Coro...

SHOWENDS like your dog got The Puppy Wizard's
SYNDROME, Thomas. Most of HOWER regular poster's
dogs suffer from WON form of it or another or multiple
symptoms:

"Episodes appear to be triggered by stress, apprehension,
and excitement. Signs are typically first observed between
3 and 7 months of age. Animals are neurologically normal between
attacks, which appear to be a life-long event.

Affected dogs do not respond to anticholinesterases, but
slight, temporary improvement may occur following diazepam
treatment.

A greater clinical improvement is reported following
following treatment with the benzodiazepine drug
clonazepam which enhances GABA neurotransmission
[67,70]. In one trial, clonazepam (at 0.5 mg/kg tid)
resulted in almost complete remission of signs over a
2-year period [70]. Frequency of attacks is reportedly
increased in some dogs using the antiepileptic drug
carbamazepine (Tegretol) [1]. "

You can CURE this problem by following the
INSTRUCTIONS in your FREE copy of The
Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual OR you can do as
professor of ANAL-ytic research behaviorISM
at UofWI, marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and
SCREAM 'NO!' into ITS face for 5 seconds
and lock IT in a box for ten minutes contemplation"
dermer, and simulate masturbating your dog
for five minutes every nite at bedtime with a
moist tHOWEL.

The CHOICE is yours, Thomas. The SYMPTOMS may
become even MOORE seriHOWES and generalized
including INCONTINENCE, BLADDER STONES,
ENDOCRINE DIS-EASE, CRIPPLING, BLINDNESS
and DEATH.

Ask The Puppy Wizard if you need any additional
FREE heelp with apupriate handling and training
of your dog, or ask professor SCRUFF SHAKE
if you need additional creative advice abHOWET
masturbating your dog.

GOOD LUCK.

The Puppy Wizard. <{}; ~ ) >

"Marshall Dermer" <dermer DeleteThis @alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:c1jvli$pe9$1@uwm.edu...

> Our dog has lots of hair, including around his prepuce
> (foreskin). He had recurrent urinary infections until I
> started washing his prepuce with a baby wipe and pure
> aloe, daily. He has not had a bacterial infection since I
> began this procedure.

Of curse, he NEVER HAD a BACTERIAL INFECTION.
His ailments have ALL been "non specific" and CAUSED
BY STRESS.

> I am reluctant, however, to discontinue the procedure
> to see if it caused elimination of UTIs.

The PROCEDURE got NUTHIN to do with "illness."

> Please keep us posted!

BWEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

> --Marshall

here's professor of
ANAL-ytic behaviorISM research at UofWI marshall
"SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM "NO!" into ITS face
for five seconds and lock IT in a box for ten minutes
contemplation" dermer:

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works."

That's HOWE COME your dog has OCD behaviors
and is deathly ill from The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME
The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33
Years Experience.

You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for
her coment above regarding her success with
The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy Separation
Anxiety / Bed Time Calming / Submissive
Urination Technique (STSA/BTC/SUT)?

Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z,
who commented that his bed time calming technique
was quite similar?

Of curse, simulating masturbation IS a MOORE personal touch.

The Puppy Wizard. <{}; ~ ) >
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