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janet hodson

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:15 pm
Post subject: Nothing is working for training Yorktese
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I love my pup but nothing is working bringing him out after meals, after
playtime and going for walks. I have put on a schedule and let him play out
in playpen and as soon as I put him in the crate he does his duties. I have
placed soiled scotowles with his urine and feces in a spot in the yard but
to no avail. What am I doing wrong?
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Melinda Shore

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:15 pm
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In article <fdpFg.16$Bu2.3@trndny02>,
janet hodson <jrhodson.TakeThisOut@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>What am I doing wrong?

Letting him mess in his crate. Don't do that. I wasn't
kidding about setting aside a day dedicated to teaching him
to poop outside, and not putting him in his crate until he's
done it.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:15 pm
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"janet hodson" <jrhodson DeleteThis @nospamverizon.net> wrote in message:

> What am I doing wrong?

Mostly, being impatient. You have something like 2 months worth of
ingrained habit to undo, and it is not going to happen overnight. As others
have said, your dog has been trained to go in the crate. Unless you want
your dog to eliminate in the crate (if you're litterbox training, you could
put it in there, I suppose), do not use a crate for him. For him, it is
*the* place for pooping/peeing.

If you have him on a schedule, you have some idea of when he is going to
eliminate. Take him out. If he doesn't, bring him back in, keep him
tethered to you or otherwise contain him somewhere where you can see him,
and watch out for signals that he wants to go. As soon as he shows signs of
wanting to relieve himself, rush him outside. If he does go, throw a party,
pet, praise, give him a treat, whatever makes him happy, and lets him know
that he's done good. If he doesn't go, bring him back inside and try again.

If he starts to go inside, interrupt him, take him out, and let him finish
up outside. Toilet training this dog is going to take vigilance,
consistency and time.

Suja
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:06 pm
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:15:07 GMT, "janet hodson"
<jrhodson.TakeThisOut@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

>I love my pup but nothing is working bringing him out after meals, after
>playtime and going for walks. I have put on a schedule and let him play out
>in playpen and as soon as I put him in the crate he does his duties. I have
>placed soiled scotowles with his urine and feces in a spot in the yard but
>to no avail. What am I doing wrong?

Have you had a chance to take a day of holding him and only letting
him down when he is outside? He thinks he is being such a good boy by
going just where he was trained to. I'd take him off your hands in a
minute. He will be a great dog once you can set up a time to let him
know that outside is okay, too. But you are going to have to make it
so he can't possibly go unless he is outside and that means being out
there with him all day if that's what it takes or holding him if he
needs to be indoors so he can't go and will need to go when you take
him out.


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janet hodson

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:02 pm
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I understand what everyone is saying but when I am cooking or taking a
shower I can't have him tetherred to me and I have no other way to make sure
that he doesn't hurt himself other than putting him in the crate.
"Paula" <mmmtoblerone.RemoveThis@earthlink.ent> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:15:07 GMT, "janet hodson"
> <jrhodson.RemoveThis@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>
>>I love my pup but nothing is working bringing him out after meals, after
>>playtime and going for walks. I have put on a schedule and let him play
>>out
>>in playpen and as soon as I put him in the crate he does his duties. I
>>have
>>placed soiled scotowles with his urine and feces in a spot in the yard but
>>to no avail. What am I doing wrong?
>
> Have you had a chance to take a day of holding him and only letting
> him down when he is outside? He thinks he is being such a good boy by
> going just where he was trained to. I'd take him off your hands in a
> minute. He will be a great dog once you can set up a time to let him
> know that outside is okay, too. But you are going to have to make it
> so he can't possibly go unless he is outside and that means being out
> there with him all day if that's what it takes or holding him if he
> needs to be indoors so he can't go and will need to go when you take
> him out.
>
>
> --
> Paula
> "Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy,
> so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
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Melinda Shore

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:02 pm
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In article <9OqFg.2516$Vo.568@trndny09>,
janet hodson <jrhodson.TakeThisOut@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>I understand what everyone is saying but when I am cooking or taking a
>shower I can't have him tetherred to me

You can when you're cooking (or for one day you can forgo
proper meal preparation and either eat nukular food or
prepared food). You can also skip a shower until he poops.
I've done this, and while you may have to wait until
afternoon to give yourself a proper scrubbing, being a
little stanky for a few hours isn't going to kill you.
The tradeoff is: inconvenience for a day (probably 1/2 day)
OR a dog that isn't housetrained.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:02 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:42 pm
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"janet hodson" <jrhodson DeleteThis @nospamverizon.net> writes:

> I don't need your negative advice but I do want to thank everyone else for
> the kind thoughts anda dvice and guess what it finally payed off. I stayed
> outdoors with him for 45 minutes and he finally defecated in the grass.
> Maybe the beginning. Thanks again.
Woot!
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Paula

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:07 am
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:02:45 GMT, "janet hodson"
<jrhodson.DeleteThis@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

>I understand what everyone is saying but when I am cooking or taking a
>shower I can't have him tetherred to me and I have no other way to make sure
>that he doesn't hurt himself other than putting him in the crate.

Can you enlist help? If there are any kids in your neighborhood, I am
sure they would be more than happy to play with your puppy while you
get a few things done. I've never met a kid who wouldn't gladly sit
on the couch holding and petting a toy breed puppy while you cook or
take a shower. It is a royal pain to untrain something that has been
so strongly trained in, but once you have a breakthrough, you're in!

I still am not sure why you don't just go with the crate pooping while
he's indoors, though, since you originally wanted a dog that was
litter box trained. You can just use an x-pen instead of a crate for
confining him and when he works up to free run of the house, just
leave the crate as his potty.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:09 am
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:53:21 GMT, "janet hodson"
<jrhodson.TakeThisOut@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

>I don't need your negative advice but I do want to thank everyone else for
>the kind thoughts anda dvice and guess what it finally payed off. I stayed
>outdoors with him for 45 minutes and he finally defecated in the grass.
>Maybe the beginning. Thanks again.

Make sure you let him know you are thrilled with him when he does that
and your problems will soon be dim memories.

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so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:02 am
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janet
i'm trying to train a yellow lab the same so if you figure it out let
me know
timbo
janet hodson wrote:
> I understand what everyone is saying but when I am cooking or taking a
> shower I can't have him tetherred to me and I have no other way to make sure
> that he doesn't hurt himself other than putting him in the crate.
> "Paula" <mmmtoblerone.RemoveThis@earthlink.ent> wrote in message
> news:4race297i9cgfmaest094sd869jpaoj0lc@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:15:07 GMT, "janet hodson"
> > <jrhodson.RemoveThis@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >>I love my pup but nothing is working bringing him out after meals, after
> >>playtime and going for walks. I have put on a schedule and let him play
> >>out
> >>in playpen and as soon as I put him in the crate he does his duties. I
> >>have
> >>placed soiled scotowles with his urine and feces in a spot in the yard but
> >>to no avail. What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > Have you had a chance to take a day of holding him and only letting
> > him down when he is outside? He thinks he is being such a good boy by
> > going just where he was trained to. I'd take him off your hands in a
> > minute. He will be a great dog once you can set up a time to let him
> > know that outside is okay, too. But you are going to have to make it
> > so he can't possibly go unless he is outside and that means being out
> > there with him all day if that's what it takes or holding him if he
> > needs to be indoors so he can't go and will need to go when you take
> > him out.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Paula
> > "Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy,
> > so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
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