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FishNoob

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:02 pm
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I found this - www.thinkfish.co.uk/community.html - seems like a
useful tool, but I don't have the experience to determine its
accuracy. Any opinions?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:02 pm
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"FishNoob" <fishnoob RemoveThis @mailinator.net> wrote in message
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>I found this - www.thinkfish.co.uk/community.html - seems like a
> useful tool, but I don't have the experience to determine its
> accuracy. Any opinions?
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What feature is it that is of interest and perhaps we can suggest sites.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:03 am
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Hmmm... not bad... as a rough guide of course.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:38 am
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of course I tried to make a community tank consisting of all the wrong
fish!! ha! Anyway, I noticed that it's not perfect yet, I mainly only
search by fish "common names" but it didn't return a search result for
half the common names I tried. But it's free, I'm sure they're working
on finishing it.
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FishNoob

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:44 am
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In article <ECY0f.4148$Zs3.1050@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, eetmail-
fish.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com says...
> Anything that requires me provide an email address to even try it for
> the first time isn't very useful.

I always use a spamgourmet address for that kind of thing. It will
save up to six tank set-ups for you, which I expect is why they need
you to register. They did ask for other info during registration, but
I usually just make that stuff up anyway <G>

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:46 am
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In article <PcydnWc7ZMZi4NneRVn-vQ.RemoveThis@magma.ca>,
computeralias.RemoveThis@hotmail.com says...
> What feature is it that is of interest and perhaps we can suggest sites.

The "Community Creator" looks interesting. You put in your tank's
dimensions, what kind of filter you have etc, and choose fish from
the database to add to it. They then give you info about your chosen
fish, tell you about your stocking levels, and warn you if you're
keeping fish in groups when they should be kept separate or vice
versa, let you know if some fish you've chosen might be a problem
when kept with other fish you've chosen, suggest good tank-mates,
etc.


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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:58 am
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Beano wrote:
> of course I tried to make a community tank consisting of all the wrong
> fish!! ha! Anyway, I noticed that it's not perfect yet, I mainly only
> search by fish "common names" but it didn't return a search result for
> half the common names I tried. But it's free, I'm sure they're working
> on finishing it.
>

I think the tank size calculation is a bit suspect....oh and my
Community Tank is a disaster area - everything should be eating/nipping
at everything else....seems calm enough to me :-)

Gill
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Daniel Morrow

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:19 pm
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Mid posted.


"Gill Passman" <gillnospamat DeleteThis @taylorpassman.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Beano wrote:
> > of course I tried to make a community tank consisting of all the wrong
> > fish!! ha! Anyway, I noticed that it's not perfect yet, I mainly only
> > search by fish "common names" but it didn't return a search result for
> > half the common names I tried. But it's free, I'm sure they're working
> > on finishing it.
> >
>
> I think the tank size calculation is a bit suspect....oh and my
> Community Tank is a disaster area

In a way like mine - marine biologists (one at that fish place another at
the local chain pet store) say that my silver dollars should be
eating/killing the fancy guppies I have in with them but they seem peaceful
enough. :-) To the marine biologist's credit the silver dollars (such
angels! ;-)) do be naughty when no one is looking. I have caught them
herding the fancy guppies and they might be rarely but occasionally
eating/killing one every once in a while (but that might not explain why
recently I haven't found a fancy guppy dead for a long time - possibly
because the nitrates in that tank might have been high without me noticing
for a long time and now that I have hornwart growing like crazy in that tank
the hornwort might be eating/absorbing all of the the nitrate which would be
better I guess, so in short the silver dollars might still be angels :-)) as
when that happened in the past the fancy guppy was often in half as if it
had been bitten in half.

- everything should be eating/nipping
> at everything else....seems calm enough to me :-)
>
> Gill
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Ali Day

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:37 pm
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"Gill Passman" <gillnospamat DeleteThis @taylorpassman.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Beano wrote:
>> of course I tried to make a community tank consisting of all the wrong
>> fish!! ha! Anyway, I noticed that it's not perfect yet, I mainly only
>> search by fish "common names" but it didn't return a search result for
>> half the common names I tried. But it's free, I'm sure they're working
>> on finishing it.
>>
>
> I think the tank size calculation is a bit suspect....oh and my Community
> Tank is a disaster area - everything should be eating/nipping at
> everything else....seems calm enough to me :-)
>
> Gill

Same here
IMHO the amount of fish it says you can put in is way off, for my 2m 600L
tank it says I can have just over 1100cm of fish, not taking into account
the 'poo' factor etc

I have my own calculator that I did in a spreadsheet that includes messiness
and I have my limit as being around the 400cm mark. I currently have about
250cm of fish in it, so a fair bit of space for the fish to grow into.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:37 pm
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Hi there,

I am fairly new to the hobby (we got our 180l tank set up in january) and i
have to say that if anything the site confused me further! They only seemed
to have the common pl*co listed for a start! And said that apple snails are
not suitable to be in tank with pl*cos? Is this true??? (we actually have
a bristlenose pl*co).

My best advice to anyone starting a new tank is to ask experienced people -
i.e. via forums/friends/colleagues. Also, if you can find a good LFS they
can be a great source of information.

Finally, the "length of fish" you are allowed is an incredibly vague way of
deciding on fish content for a new tank. Many people would say that our
tank is understocked, but we can see that our fish are happy having a lot of
space - especially our show-off beta!

Rachel
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:31 pm
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"rsb21" <rsb21 RemoveThis @kent.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi there,
>
> I am fairly new to the hobby (we got our 180l tank set up in january) and
> i have to say that if anything the site confused me further! They only
> seemed to have the common pl*co listed for a start! And said that apple
> snails are not suitable to be in tank with pl*cos? Is this true??? (we
> actually have a bristlenose pl*co).
>
> My best advice to anyone starting a new tank is to ask experienced
> people - i.e. via forums/friends/colleagues. Also, if you can find a good
> LFS they can be a great source of information.
>
> Finally, the "length of fish" you are allowed is an incredibly vague way
> of deciding on fish content for a new tank. Many people would say that
> our tank is understocked, but we can see that our fish are happy having a
> lot of space - especially our show-off beta!

It is a vague way of doing it, that's correct, but you can modify it, to
suit your needs as I have done, and it doesn't take alot of working out.

i.e.
Standard rule is 1 inch per gallon or for us, approx 1.5cm per litres (but
my local LFS say you can do 1cm per litre)

This really only applies to small schoaling fish and thin bodied fish. So
what I have done is added a multiplication factor,
So you'd say you box standard cichlid is 3 times as messy as a normal fish,
a clown loach you can say is twice as messy, plec's are three times, etc.
These are all my own figures and someone could most probably shoot it down,
but it gives you a better idea and allows you to plan better.

but I'm the same as you, I'd be horrified if I thought my tank was
overstocked, hence I've been told on numerous occasions it's understocked.

And on that note, for those that have already read my guppy saga, they are
finally undercontrol, I don't know who's responsible, or if my guppies have
suddenly been to the local family planning clinic, but at last no more
babies are appearing every ten days, but I do have ten or so who are growing
up now, so I expect another boom in a couple of months.

A
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:02 pm
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FishNoob wrote:
> I found this - www.thinkfish.co.uk/community.html - seems like a
> useful tool, but I don't have the experience to determine its
> accuracy. Any opinions?
>
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I love this site! I had planned on a community of rasboras, angelfish,
cory cats and a single betta (introducing the angelfish as juveniles)
but after using this tool I'm skipping the angelfish (beautiful but
mean--someday I might do a species only tank, with some blushers) and
getting a school of 15 neons instead.

Thanks very much!
Jamie
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:55 pm
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Elaine,

For what it's worth, you can use a throw-away email address (from
yahoo, netscape, etc.) - that's what I do (and just did at the site
mentioned - you don't even have to use a real email address - you just
fill out the form with useless info and submit and you're logged in -
just don't forget your password if you use a fake email).

Liz
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