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steİ

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Since: Nov 05, 2004
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:41 pm
Post subject: Re: What do I need for an undergravel filter setup? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Larry Blanchard" <lblanch DeleteThis @fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:2i6u6aFjmavmU1@uni-berlin.de...
| In article <40bce48f$0$4590$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>,
| ContactMeUsingTheContactForm DeleteThis @sm9.co.uk says...
| > If not
| > gravel, then I'm certainly up for suggestions for alternatives, and will
| > keep a look out. Your suggestion for slightly larger rocks is probably
| > worth looking into - perhaps some pebbles?
| >
| There was a thread in this group or another aquaria group a
| while back about using sand instead of gravel. Won't get stuck
| in a fish's throat, and no big crevices for waste to hide in.
| And it looks natural. At least that was the proponents claims.
| As usual, there were differing opinions :-).

Yes, there always seems to be differing opinions wherever you go! :-) I
don't want opinions, I want facts! :-)

I think that we're more likely to look for small pebbles to replace the
gravel rather than sand, but you never know in the future. I've seen plenty
of tropical tanks in fish shops that have sand, and it does look very nice.

Ste

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:50 pm
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In message <c9rdkh$nr7$1@news.mannford.ok.mbo.net>, Tom L. La Bron
<tllabron RemoveThis @cimtel.net> writes

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> One of the main reasons for water changes is nitrates and these can be
>kept at virtually zero if you let Philodendrons grow out of your tanks,
>the roots dangling into the tank water. The fish don't eat the roots or
>the stems that may be in the water, although they will pick at the
>roots, but are cleaning off the debris that catches on the roots at
>time.

Is this common practice? I know that philodendron are toxic to mammals -
are they ok for fish?

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Tom L. La Bron

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 3:23 pm
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Sophie,

I have been using this technique for about 30 years. I
don't keep cats, and I have never seen a dog eat any
philodendrons, so I don't worry about dogs. Why cats
seem to have this thing for philodendrons, I don't
know, but since I don't have any cats I have used
phillys for years. I also know that guppies and clown
loaches don't bother them either so I have them in
those tanks also.

It works.

Tom L.L.
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sophie wrote:
> In message <c9rdkh$nr7$1@news.mannford.ok.mbo.net>, Tom L. La Bron
> <tllabron.TakeThisOut@cimtel.net> writes
>
> <snip>
>
>> One of the main reasons for water changes is nitrates and these can be
>> kept at virtually zero if you let Philodendrons grow out of your
>> tanks, the roots dangling into the tank water. The fish don't eat the
>> roots or the stems that may be in the water, although they will pick
>> at the roots, but are cleaning off the debris that catches on the
>> roots at time.
>
>
> Is this common practice? I know that philodendron are toxic to mammals -
> are they ok for fish?
>
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