HOWEDY MauiJNP,
"MauiJNP" <jmh1116 RemoveThis @ptd.net> wrote in message
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>
> when is the best time to get a second dog?
BWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAAHAAA!!!
You're asking lying dog abusing long term
active incurable MENTAL CASES who can't
even train their own dogs not to attack the
GARBAGE CAN or break C-HOWENTER
SURFIN withHOWET HURTING and LOCKING
their dogs in boxes.
> I have a 5 month old poodle.
A dog is a dog. You've been readin HOWER
forums for months. If you've got behavior
problems with your dogs you've got ONLY
yourself to blame for followin the advice
of lying dog abusing mentally ill cowards.
> I am looking to rescue a poodle (maybe 1-4 y
> ears old). Right now, my puppy is very attached
> to me, he sleeps in my bed, follows me around
> (like a little puppy, hehe) and is very excited when
> I come home from anywhere (whether I am gone
> 2 minutes or 2 hours).
S-HOWENDS like anxiHOWESNESS behavior.
> I want him to still love me that way,
INDEED?
> not choose to be with the other dog all the time.
Dogs BOND together in DEFENSE from their abusers.
> This may be selfish
THAT'S what DOG LOVERS DO BEST.
> but we have a good, playful, companionate
> relationship and I don't want that to change.
By SHARING your LOVE?
> I am looking to get a second dog because they
> will keep each other company when I am gone
> and can play together when I don't have the time to
> play (when I work from home a few hours a week,
> I need the puppy to leave me alone for the most
> part while I sit at my desk and work).
BWEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
> Right now, my puppy does well at this, he
> takes naps by my feet or plays by himself.
> However, whenever he seems my sister's
> dog, he goes nuts wanting to play.
>
> He loves other dogs. I feel bad for him that
> he doesn't get to play with them more. My
> sister's dog is 95 pounds though and crated
> for most of the day so they don't often get to
> play.
BWEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAAAA!!!
> If I had another dog (smaller too as
> mine's a 6 pound poodle), then they
> can play a lot. so, what's the best
> next step?
You're askin MENTAL CASES who can't
even get their own opposite sex dogs like
suja and culprit's not to attack each other
and MURDER their HOWES kats and leah
and culprit have noted in their own CASE
HISTORYS.
> should I get another dog now?
Raising two same aged puppys is NOT recommeded
by HOWER Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug
Cowards and ACTIVE LONG TERM INCURABLE
MENTAL CASES.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ raising two
same aged pups is EZier than WON at a time
on accHOWENT of they LEARN from each other.
> after the holiday crazy season?
That's MOORE idiocy.
> when my puppy is older?
BWEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!
> if so how much older? what age dog should I get?
YOU'RE ASKIN DOG ABUSING MENTAL CASES.
> thanks for any help!
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From:
To: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWizard RemoveThis @EarthLink.Net>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: ramblin
> Jerry-
<SNIP>
> I've found that 2 is not double the work,
> as you're doing it anyhow, and they
> exercise and occupy each other.
>
> Thanks again,
From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST
> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> >
> > Mike
>
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?
It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.
Works like a charm.
My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.
Sorry that slipped my mind.
I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.
Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.
Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.
Seemed he learned through osmosis.
Nice side benefit there.
It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.
I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.
I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.
I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.
Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.
Mike
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From: "Larry M Male" <larrymmale RemoveThis @yahoo.com>
To: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWizard RemoveThis @EarthLink.Net>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Cocker with ear infection
>
> Thanks Jerry,
>
>
> I enjoyed the scientific discussion debunking
> operant conditioning for teaching thinking animals.
> Humans think by forming concepts. All of their
> knowledge is held as a hierarchy of concepts
> (more complex concepts defined in terms of
> simpler ones). In my mind, to treat such a being
> as a B. F. Skinner robot is criminal.
>
> I don't believe that dogs hold their knowledge
> as concepts as do humans but their ability to
> think is unquestionable.
>
> Operant conditioning doesn't utilize an animal's
> ability to think. When you show a dog what you
> want them to do, then they are able to grasp the
> problem; they are able to think about it and to
> integrate possible solutions into their mind.
>
> But with operant conditioning a trainer is actually
> hiding the problem to be solved from the animal.
>
> For example, it is good for your dog's attention to
> be upon you. When heeling, he will notice your
> movements, your subtle hand signals, your facial
> expressions and he will immediately sense your
> next command. But the clicker trainers have forgotten
> the reasons why a dog's attention should be upon you.
>
> So they condition a dog to unnaturally cock his head
> to stare upward at you. The dog doesn't appreciate
> the meaning of this and neither does the trainer. Since
> this unnatural behavior is prized in the obedience ring,
> the clicker trainers are motivated to condition it.
>
> Don't you think that the "high five" hand shake that
> clicker trainers use to motivate novices looks like a
> Nazi salute (an unthinking reflex). It is not at all like
> a warm hand shake from a loving companion, is it?
>
> Some of your testimonials bring tears to my eyes. I
> love to see how some "thinking" people appreciate
> your methods.
>
> --Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D."
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To: <pdd-aspy-nf RemoveThis @yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:31 AM
Subject: How does diagnosis shape treatment?
How does diagnosis shape treatment?
Nearly every week I have a visit from Jerry Howe, who
publicizes himself as The Puppy Wizard. Jerry is a
master at behavioral modification of dogs.
His fundamental bedrock is the work Pavlov's last student,
the late Sam Corson, Ph.D., did at the U of Ohio (at Oxford,O).
Sam always pointed out if the dog stopped working for
you in the lab, Pavlov and he always took the dog away
from the lab, and put him in a loving home and gave him
TLC for a couple of months, and then started, very carefully,
over again.
Jerry believes that reward and constraint focused training
is immoral. I've watched him in one short session calm
impossible dogs, just about to be murdered (oops "put to
sleep") because of their "incorrigibly" violent behavior.
Sam was one of the first people to apply amphetamine to
hyperactivity (he searched the Middle West for hyperactive
dogs); but he never lost sight of the fundamental reality that
a dog is not a human, but does respond, doggily, to dog love.
You might be surprised to go to B. F. Skinner's "Cumulative
Record" and read the essay by Breland and Breland, "The
Misbehavior of Organisms".
Animals cannot be successfully trained unless the
trainer attends to the evolutionary history, the individual's
developmental history, and the environmental niche of
the animal being trained.
Yep, right there in Skinner's last and summary book.
Even with behavior mod, you must know the animal.
<SNIP>
Dr. Von
INTRO TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING MANUAL
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D. F.R.S.H.
Several years ago one of my old students telephoned
to me and asked me what I knew about Doggie Do
Right, a device to cause your neighbor's dog to stop
barking.
I had not heard of the device, nor its inventor, Jerry
Howe, but I telephoned, read his website, and told
my graduate that I thought the device was worth a
trial - indeed I shut up the dogs in my neighborhood
by turning on Jerry's supersonic device.
After all we all know that dogs respond to whistles
humans cannot hear, so why not respond to "attaboy"
sounds which humans cannot hear.
My student lived far from my Florida homestead, so
he tried it on the three incredibly savage, hyperactive
and noisy dogs who lived behind a tall fence just 3 feet
back of his bedroom.
Hot rats! The device worked,
Andy got his sleep and I didn't think much of the
matter again.
A few months ago I had new neighbors on each
side of my house, four of them, all with noisy
unshuttupable dogs. Argh!
So I foned Andrew in Virgina, received the intelligence
that his neighbors dogs were still quiet, and then I foned
Jerry Howe, the inventor of Doggie Do Right, who came
to visit me.
Merlin walked into my office.
Jerry is a slender fellow with a belly button lenghth grey
beard tapering down his chest. I liked him immediately,
and I applied his instrument to the neighborhood again
which again became silent.
It occured to me that if this ultrasonic field worked with
dogs that we ought at least to ask the question, what
happens to humans in range of the device???
I asked Jerry to give me a list of customers and began
inquiring among them. One thing became immediately
evident. The Doggie Do Right not only shuts up your
neighbors' dogs, it calms and modifies your husband's behavior.
Holey Moley, Captain Marvel, this device has major potential.
In the meantime Jerry gave me a copy of his Wits End
Dog Training Manual. I was delighted. He also introduced
me to the world of professional dog trainers some of whom
even have Ph.D.s in psychology.
This was not such a delight as it appeared that none
of these luminaries had actually read Skinner, Lazarus
or other fountains of wisdom in psychology. Indeed, it
seemed as though they knew very little about the laws
of behavior at all!
Punishment and confrontation seemed to be their
major stock in trade.
Well, if you go to my website,
www.drbiofeedback.com
you can read of the career of Sam Corson, I.P. Pavlov's
last student.
Sam demonstrated that rehabilitation of hyperactive
dogs can easily and readily be done using TLC, tender
loving care is at the root of the scientific management
of doggies.
Pavlov told us so 100 years ago.
So what are these degreed morons doing punishing
dogs, and shouting "NO" into their doggie faces? If
you pick up B.F.Skinner's last book, CUMULATIVE
RECORD, included in it is an essay by Keller Breland
and Maryann Breland entitled THE MISBEHAVIOR OF ORGANISMS.
Skinner deliberately included his students' chapter
to emphasize that you cannot manage the behavior
of animals unless you take into consideration 1. the
animal's evolutionary niche (who is the animal?);
2. the animal's personal history (who is the animal?)
and 3, the instinctive repetoire of the animal (who is
the animal?) and 4. the personality of the animal (who
is the animal?).
The Brelands moved far from the white rat. "Thirty-eight
species, totaling over 6,000 individual animals, have been
conditioned, and we have dared to tackle such unlikely
subjects as reindeer, cockatoos, raccoons, porpoises,
and whales. "
Jerry Howe spends most of his times with dogs, but
he has learned Pavlov's lesson well. Dogs are individuals,
they are individual DOGS, and they respond most directly
and immediately to love and tender loving care.
Read with pleasure, and then go love your dog.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
Who's Who Honoree since 1983
From: TooCool (larrymale@hotmail.com)
The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method
I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.
The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.
It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.
Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.
One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is not
a
bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system for not
only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.
When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.
You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).
Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.
What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.
At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.
Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.
Is Jerry a nut?
It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based upon
their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply
when he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding
or hurting dogs.
More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.
I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?
Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.
Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.
Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.
Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.
If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet little
Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little gremlin
(anyone see The Gremlins?). --Larry
"TooCool" <larrymale RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Learning Theory"-An Insult to Canines
>
> Classical and operant conditioning is founded in
> what is termed "learning theory".
>
> The four rudimentary rules of "learning theory" are:
> Something Good can start or be presented, so
> behavior increases = Positive Reinforcement (R)
>
> Something Good can end or be taken away, so behavior
> decreases = Negative Punishment (P-)
>
> Something Bad can start or be presented, so behavior
> decreases = Positive Punishment (P)
>
> Something Bad can end or be taken away, so behavior
> increases = Negative Reinforcement (R-)
>
> Proponents of "learning theory" believe that no
> learning can take place without reinforcement or
> punishment either positive or negative. That is why
> they employ treats and force.
>
> "Learning theory" is a flawed concept for
> evolutionarily advanced species. Advanced species
> learn without any external motivation. They are not
> automatons that merely respond to stimuli. Their
> evolutionary survival has endowed them with self
> motivated learning behavior. Canines, in particular,
> are curious, they love to learn and they exhibit
> pride in what they have learned. They think-they
> figure things out. They can invent games to play.
> They can invent behaviors to drive you crazy. They
> have emotions-they can be humorous and they can
> be vindictive-their feelings can be hurt. They can
suffer
> terribly if you don't treat them with respect.
>
> They actively seek their environment for new things to
> learn. They also learn from watching other animals and
> humans and they mimic their behavior (in the scientific
> literature this is termed allelomimetic behavior). It is
an
> insult to the intelligence of dogs and to their owners
to
> employ operant conditioning (clicker training).
>
> Dogs are not B.F. Skinner robots whose only capacity
> to learn stems from the four rules of "learning
> theory". Canines deserve treatment and training that
> is tailored to their nature. You can literally ruin
> your dog if your treatment and training does not
> respect their nature.
>
> Please study the Puppy Wizard's Wits' End Training
> Method. It is the only available method, of which I
> am aware, that is based upon the true nature of
> canines. In his system, praise is not used as a
> reinforcement or motivator, i.e., dogs are not asked
> to work for praise.
>
> --Larry
>----- Original Message -----
> Subject: GREMLINS
>From: "Larry" To: "The Puppy Wizard"
><thepuppywizard RemoveThis @earthlink.net Sent:
> Friday, July 02, 2004
I live in an apartment complex that accepts dogs. I
have recommended your web site and your training
manual to quite a few pet owners. Unfortunately, it
seems to be human nature for them to not address
training until their dog's behavior problems become
serious.
Several people have seen me out working with Kit. They
cannot believe it when I am able to call a 7 week old
pup away from them. Those who have pups of their own
say that they are waiting until their pups are older
in order to begin training.I tell them to begin now.
But they don't know what to do.
Have you ever seen the movie "Gremlins"? The Mogwai
comes with three rules: 1) keep out of bright light,
2) keep away from water and 3) never feed after
midnight. Of course disaster befalls the new owners
because they don't take these rules seriously. When I
last watched this movie I thought to myself, how
similar it was to getting a new puppy. Just as does a
Mogwai, a puppy has a nature that demands proper
handling and just as it will with a cute little
Mogwai, mishandling will turn your cute little puppy
into a gremlin.
--Larry
"TooCool" <larrymale RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:
Planarians are primitive, free-living, flat bodied,
freshwater creatures. They can be conditioned to
respond to stimuli, display the ability to master a
two-choice maze, and can transfer the memory of
training from one individual to another by feeding a
ground up planarian to another one.
It is this primitive level of learning that "Learning
Theory"
and operant conditioning addresses. Operant conditioning
does not rely upon an animal's ability to think. It
operates
upon a primitive (nervous system) level for animals in
general, regardless of the level of their brain
development.
When you train a dog using clicker training, you are
training a mindless reaction to your clicker /
reinforcement. Your dog is not learning an idea-he is
learning a conditioned reflex. He will perform just like
a robot when you give the signal-he can't help it.
It has also been shown that when you later withdraw
your reinforcement that it will induce stress which will
lead to behavior problems-often quite severe.
Learning in humans is conceptual. "Learning theory"
plays absolutely no part in human learning. Humans
do not learn through a process of gaining some
reinforcement or avoiding some pain. They study their
environment, they form concepts, they learn logic (in
order to separate truth from falsity) and using
reasoning they attempt to integrate all of their
knowledge without contradiction.
If humans seem to respond to some reinforcement
or to avoid some pain, it is because they have consciously
evaluated the various alternatives and have made a
reasoned choice--that is not a conditioned behavior
and it is not an application of "Learning Theory".
Canines are not conceptual animals, but they do
possess the ability to think. Their thinking powers
are different both in kind and in degree from humans.
That is why it is so important to learn their nature
in order to train them successfully.
Operant conditioning operates at a primitive, nervous
system level. It does not take advantage of a dog's
ability to think-only his ability to be conditioned. The
act of subverting his nature as a thinking creature causes
stress and anxiety which can in turn produce behavior
problems.
Please study the Puppy Wizard's Wits' End Training
Method. It is consonant with the nature of a thinking
dog. It will not induce stress and anxiety and no behavior
problems will result.
--Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry M Male" <larrymmale RemoveThis @yahoo.com>
To: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWizard RemoveThis @EarthLink.Net>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Cocker with ear infection
>
> Thanks Jerry,
>
>
> I enjoyed the scientific discussion debunking
> operant conditioning for teaching thinking animals.
> Humans think by forming concepts. All of their
> knowledge is held as a hierarchy of concepts
> (more complex concepts defined in terms of
> simpler ones). In my mind, to treat such a being
> as a B. F. Skinner robot is criminal.
>
> I don't believe that dogs hold their knowledge
> as concepts as do humans but their ability to
> think is unquestionable.
>
> Operant conditioning doesn't utilize an animal's
> ability to think. When you show a dog what you
> want them to do, then they are able to grasp the
> problem; they are able to think about it and to
> integrate possible solutions into their mind.
>
> But with operant conditioning a trainer is actually
> hiding the problem to be solved from the animal.
>
> For example, it is good for your dog's attention to
> be upon you. When heeling, he will notice your
> movements, your subtle hand signals, your facial
> expressions and he will immediately sense your
> next command. But the clicker trainers have forgotten
> the reasons why a dog's attention should be upon you.
>
> So they condition a dog to unnaturally cock his head
> to stare upward at you. The dog doesn't appreciate
> the meaning of this and neither does the trainer. Since
> this unnatural behavior is prized in the obedience ring,
> the clicker trainers are motivated to condition it.
>
> Don't you think that the "high five" hand shake that
> clicker trainers use to motivate novices looks like a
> Nazi salute (an unthinking reflex). It is not at all like
> a warm hand shake from a loving companion, is it?
>
> Some of your testimonials bring tears to my eyes. I
> love to see how some "thinking" people appreciate
> your methods.
>
> --Larry
Subject: PetsMart Puppy Playtime
Date: 2004-07-17 12:05:36 PST
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry"
To: "The Puppy Wizard" <thepuppywizard RemoveThis @earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 2:48 PM
Subject: Kit rules PetsMart Puppy Playtime
Hello Jerry,
The experts say to take your puppy to puppy
classes to socialize them with other puppies.
Kit went to Puppy Playtime at PetsMart today.
I guess that I fail to see what Kit could learn
from those unruly puppies except perhaps
some bad behaviors.
Anyway he mostly lay there quietly and watched.
He wasn't' scared or apprehensive and he didn't
mind approaching other dogs if they seemed willing.
But it was a mad house-a beagle sounding off, a
boxer jumping on everyone, a bull dog pushing his
way around, a Great Dane tripping over everyone,
a little pug barking and poor little Kit getting trampled
because he was so much smaller than everyone else.
Once, he got a bit defensive and snarled and yipped
when this one bigger terrier kept picking on him
(scratching him hard).
Several people commented to me how calm Kit
seemed to be. They wondered if it were a breed
characteristic.
I told them that it was my training method, but
most of them seemed to just get that look in
their eye that says "Yea, yea".
But this one lady seemed interested so I referred
her to your web site. She had a rescued dog which
she held in her arms and it would snap at other
dogs when she gave them any attention.
She would immediately grab her little dog's muzzle
and squeeze it tightly. She finally confided in me
that it did the same to her husband and to her 25lb
cat.
I told her that it was going to get worse and
worse if she didn't address it immediately.
I know that carrying that dog around like she
does and tucking him tight under her arm
when another dog approaches is exasperating
her dog's behavior. I told her so. She said that
she would immediately go to doggydoright.com.
I hope she does.
--Larry
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