tiel alone

you old bitty.....
I'm just saying that my tiel has other friends to interact with when they're
out of their cages. He is in his cage when I'm sleeping or at work.
AAANNNYYY other time, that bird doesn't go in his cage one way or another.
The only time I'd see him there is for a drink or a bite of food and then
he's back out withthe other ones. He's my baby and he just plays with his
friends. My other birds are all tame. Sometimes I wouldn't like a bird
that isn't tame b/c I like to interac with them so much.

JEn.
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"Jen & Nate" <jen_nate DeleteThis @alltel.net> wrote in message
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> you old bitty.....
> Sometimes I wouldn't like a bird
> that isn't tame b/c I like to interac with them so much.
>
> JEn.
>

Does this mean that most of the time you would like a bird that isn't tame?

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*MrJ*
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hmmm... i started with one hand raised bird.. a hen. a year later, i got
another hand raised bird, a male. they both stayed tame with me, though my
first one seemed to think i was hers alone :p. but with the long hours i
spend at work, they soon became fast friends, though still loved my
attention.

the only difference i noticed about having two birds, and the interaction
with me was in the morning. they got to share the same cage... but in the
morning, when i uncovered them, i had to wait for the male to make his own
way out, otherwise he was very bitey and protective of his 'home' and
'wife'. :-)

unfortunately the hen died sometime later, and i'm left with the second
tiel, the male. he very very rarely shows that territorial behaviour of
biting first thing in the morning anymore.. unless he's on holiday visiting
my mother's tiels :-) but generally he remains as tame as always.

hope that answers question for you.

and no, i don't intend on leaving him as an only bird. i'm waiting to find
the right mate for him again.

and yes, i leave the tv on for him also when i'm out..

ang.
"Jamiroquai" <bob19742.RemoveThis@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> hi i have a tiel and its alone during the day when im at work, its prob
> alone for say 7hrs a day its the tamest thing, when i come home it gets so
> excited and has to come out of its cage or it cracks it and goes in the
> corner of the cage and faces the wall, but i always let it out of its cage
> when im at home, i was thinking about getting it a mate another hand bred
> tiel, will it be as tame as it is now if i get him a mate, and also it
gets
> cheeky sometimes like all tiels do if i get him a mte will it make him
more
> cheeky..? has anyone here had a tiel all alone in its life..?
>
>
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I only want birds that are tame. . .
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"Jen & Nate" <jen_nate RemoveThis @alltel.net> wrote in message
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> I only want birds that are tame. . .
....and wishing...
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thanks peoples. i bought him a mate two days ago and they are getting along
really well, only the first night they had a fight cause when i put them in
there cage to go to sleep the one i just bought went to its sleeping
position amd it cracked it and went for the attack, so i seperated them and
turned off the lights and now they seem to be doing fine, i had to get
another one cause i felt sorry for my tiel you should have seen its face
when i bought it home, it was so excited, i dont know why but when im
around it doesnt want to know the other tiel it wants to sit on me and bite
my collar and do little pecks on my face like it always does not that im
complaining its good to see it loves me even though hes got his new friend..

"Jamiroquai" <bob19742.RemoveThis@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> hi i have a tiel and its alone during the day when im at work, its prob
> alone for say 7hrs a day its the tamest thing, when i come home it gets so
> excited and has to come out of its cage or it cracks it and goes in the
> corner of the cage and faces the wall, but i always let it out of its cage
> when im at home, i was thinking about getting it a mate another hand bred
> tiel, will it be as tame as it is now if i get him a mate, and also it
gets
> cheeky sometimes like all tiels do if i get him a mte will it make him
more
> cheeky..? has anyone here had a tiel all alone in its life..?
>
>
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I'm having a horrible time with my cockatiel. She does not have a mate, but
was laying eggs. She laid one and then went a long time. After my husband
found her on the bottom of the cage trying to lay, but very weak, blood on
her beak and vent, he took her to avian vet, but after, blood-work, xrays,
examination, etc. No egg, but prolapsed, and a growth on her kiel
(spelling). The vet took a biopsy and almost lost her twice on the table
and was afraid to take too much. The biopsy came back inconclusive. She
had lost weight down to 68 grm, 1/2 her body weight, wouldn't eat, so the
vet hospitalized her, force fed her, gave her antibiotics, and milk thistle
to support her liver. She wouldn't eat until my husband showed up at the
vet hospital and talked to her and then she started eating and eating. She
was released at 73 grm. I had to go out of town for an emergency and
couldn't get back before she had to be hospitalized, she is bonded to me.

She came home the weekend before I can home and had a vet visit the morning
I came home. After the vet visit she wouldn't eat for two days. She seemed
traumatized as they took blood, etc. My husband had to leave town, as we
are juggling family obligations and she was eating well one day and then the
next not eating. So the suggestion was to put a heating pad over her cage
and coax her to eat. She has put herself as close to the heating pad as she
can. She lost weight down to 63 grm and is now back to 67 grm. The vet is
clueless at this point. If she takes out the growth, she will die on the
table as she is very weak. She is also very weak period and any vet trips
stress her tremendously.

I have a feeling she was egg-bound and passed a broken egg was trying so
hard she had prolapsed. Any other suggestions? I will talk with the vet
again later today. Unfortunately, my cockatiel is very obstinate about what
she eats and doesn't eat. I had moved her from regular seed mix to Halo
which has a good mix of seed, fruits, veges, etc. Want to move her to
Harrison's mash that is dense so that she will gain. But, I'm afraid to
change her food at this point.
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How long was she sitting on her eggs? Does she have a soft substrate to lie
on? I am wondering if she has a keel lesion. This often happens with birds
if they are unable to use their legs for a long period of time and rest on
their chest instead. It is like a pressure sore, or bed sore. Place
something cushy on the bottom of her cage if she is insisting on laying
eggs. Keel lesions are very hard to get rid of if the bird is constantly
laying down. She should be on antibiotics because they often become
infected. I am willing to bet a million that that is what is wrong with her
keel. If so, then no biopsy was needed, just some TLC.

To get her to eat, boil some potatoes and mash them up and sprinkle with bee
pollen. The other favorite of most birds is mashed boiled egg. Try her with
millet, all tiels go for that! Try her with the Harrison's mash too, what
ever will get her to eat and gain weight! Give her her regular food as well
as all of the new stuff to make sure that she does get something that is
familar. Sometimes tiels get freaked out by new food and do not recognize
that it is edible. There is also a bird calorie powder that you should be
able to get from your vet to add to her food to get her to gain weight.

I am not surprised about her huddling towards the heating pad, a thin bird
is a cold bird.

Read up on egg bound birds so that next time you will be familiar of the
signs. My little hen Lily ended up in the emergency one night because I
recognized the signs of an egg bound bird. Sure enough, she was.

I would not recommend letting the vet put her under anymore, she is too thin
to be put under anesthetic. I am surprised that the vet didn't lose her!
Very lucky indeed.



"Lynette Porter-Tinnel" <lynette.TakeThisOut@tinnel.us> wrote in message
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> I'm having a horrible time with my cockatiel. She does not have a mate,
but
> was laying eggs. She laid one and then went a long time. After my
husband
> found her on the bottom of the cage trying to lay, but very weak, blood on
> her beak and vent, he took her to avian vet, but after, blood-work, xrays,
> examination, etc. No egg, but prolapsed, and a growth on her kiel
> (spelling). The vet took a biopsy and almost lost her twice on the table
> and was afraid to take too much. The biopsy came back inconclusive. She
> had lost weight down to 68 grm, 1/2 her body weight, wouldn't eat, so the
> vet hospitalized her, force fed her, gave her antibiotics, and milk
thistle
> to support her liver. She wouldn't eat until my husband showed up at the
> vet hospital and talked to her and then she started eating and eating.
She
> was released at 73 grm. I had to go out of town for an emergency and
> couldn't get back before she had to be hospitalized, she is bonded to me.
>
> She came home the weekend before I can home and had a vet visit the
morning
> I came home. After the vet visit she wouldn't eat for two days. She
seemed
> traumatized as they took blood, etc. My husband had to leave town, as we
> are juggling family obligations and she was eating well one day and then
the
> next not eating. So the suggestion was to put a heating pad over her cage
> and coax her to eat. She has put herself as close to the heating pad as
she
> can. She lost weight down to 63 grm and is now back to 67 grm. The vet
is
> clueless at this point. If she takes out the growth, she will die on the
> table as she is very weak. She is also very weak period and any vet trips
> stress her tremendously.
>
> I have a feeling she was egg-bound and passed a broken egg was trying so
> hard she had prolapsed. Any other suggestions? I will talk with the vet
> again later today. Unfortunately, my cockatiel is very obstinate about
what
> she eats and doesn't eat. I had moved her from regular seed mix to Halo
> which has a good mix of seed, fruits, veges, etc. Want to move her to
> Harrison's mash that is dense so that she will gain. But, I'm afraid to
> change her food at this point.
>
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She was laying on one egg one day, but spent several days trying to lay
according to my husband. She does have a soft substrate. I mashed an
organic potato and am boiling an egg. Thanks for the suggestions.

On 9/8/03 2:20 AM, in article wcV6b.113095$la.2543580@news1.calgary.shaw.ca,
"NaDeana" <nadeana.RemoveThis@GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote:

> How long was she sitting on her eggs? Does she have a soft substrate to lie
> on? I am wondering if she has a keel lesion. This often happens with birds
> if they are unable to use their legs for a long period of time and rest on
> their chest instead. It is like a pressure sore, or bed sore. Place

>
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Good luck. Let me know what happens with her.

"Lynette Porter-Tinnel" <lynette DeleteThis @tinnel.us> wrote in message
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> She was laying on one egg one day, but spent several days trying to lay
> according to my husband. She does have a soft substrate. I mashed an
> organic potato and am boiling an egg. Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> On 9/8/03 2:20 AM, in article
wcV6b.113095$la.2543580@news1.calgary.shaw.ca,
> "NaDeana" <nadeana DeleteThis @GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > How long was she sitting on her eggs? Does she have a soft substrate to
lie
> > on? I am wondering if she has a keel lesion. This often happens with
birds
> > if they are unable to use their legs for a long period of time and rest
on
> > their chest instead. It is like a pressure sore, or bed sore. Place
>
> >
>
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After mashed potatoes and egg, she is up to 70 grams. I picked up more
antibiotic today. The vet wants to see her tomorrow and force feed some
high density food and make sure she has enough fluids. I'm reluctant as
she is really stressed when she comes back and doesn't eat for a couple of
days and starts going downhill. It's almost like she needs 3 days to recoup
after a vet visit. I guess she's super sensitive right now.

I will make the decision tomorrow after I see how she is and weigh her.

On 9/8/03 3:12 AM, in article
DZV6b.923992$3C2.21100050@news3.calgary.shaw.ca, "NaDeana"
<nadeana RemoveThis @GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote:

> Good luck. Let me know what happens with her.
>
> "Lynette Porter-Tinnel" <lynette RemoveThis @tinnel.us> wrote in message
> news:BB81A288.DCC6%lynette@tinnel.us...
>> She was laying on one egg one day, but spent several days trying to lay
>> according to my husband. She does have a soft substrate. I mashed an
>> organic potato and am boiling an egg. Thanks for the suggestions.
>>
>> On 9/8/03 2:20 AM, in article
> wcV6b.113095$la.2543580@news1.calgary.shaw.ca,
>> "NaDeana" <nadeana RemoveThis @GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> How long was she sitting on her eggs? Does she have a soft substrate to
> lie
>>> on? I am wondering if she has a keel lesion. This often happens with
> birds
>>> if they are unable to use their legs for a long period of time and rest
> on
>>> their chest instead. It is like a pressure sore, or bed sore. Place
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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If it were me, I would say no. You can go and get some Ensure at the
supermarket and mix it with the potatoes or pour some in with her water.
Soak some cheerios in it and she may eat that as well. Or you can soak some
organic nutty bread in a little Ensure as well. It is high calorie and is
fine for birds. Talk to your vet about the Bird Calorie supplement and add
that to her food. If the stress of the vet visit sets her back that far,
then it is not worth it. 70 grams!! Yey!! Keep it up.

"Lynette Porter-Tinnel" <lynette DeleteThis @tinnel.us> wrote in message
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> After mashed potatoes and egg, she is up to 70 grams. I picked up more
> antibiotic today. The vet wants to see her tomorrow and force feed some
> high density food and make sure she has enough fluids. I'm reluctant as
> she is really stressed when she comes back and doesn't eat for a couple of
> days and starts going downhill. It's almost like she needs 3 days to
recoup
> after a vet visit. I guess she's super sensitive right now.
>
> I will make the decision tomorrow after I see how she is and weigh her.
>
> On 9/8/03 3:12 AM, in article
> DZV6b.923992$3C2.21100050@news3.calgary.shaw.ca, "NaDeana"
> <nadeana DeleteThis @GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > Good luck. Let me know what happens with her.
> >
> > "Lynette Porter-Tinnel" <lynette DeleteThis @tinnel.us> wrote in message
> > news:BB81A288.DCC6%lynette@tinnel.us...
> >> She was laying on one egg one day, but spent several days trying to lay
> >> according to my husband. She does have a soft substrate. I mashed an
> >> organic potato and am boiling an egg. Thanks for the suggestions.
> >>
> >> On 9/8/03 2:20 AM, in article
> > wcV6b.113095$la.2543580@news1.calgary.shaw.ca,
> >> "NaDeana" <nadeana DeleteThis @GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>> How long was she sitting on her eggs? Does she have a soft substrate
to
> > lie
> >>> on? I am wondering if she has a keel lesion. This often happens with
> > birds
> >>> if they are unable to use their legs for a long period of time and
rest
> > on
> >>> their chest instead. It is like a pressure sore, or bed sore. Place
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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