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dave349

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:33 pm
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hi, this is my first post here, i think (may have posted one other on
here before). anyways, so i have a birthday coming up next month and
i'm looking to get a bigger aquarium than the 29g that i have now. I'm
looking at getting a 55-72g, and originally i was thinking of getting
balas and oscars, but now i'm thinking of maybe a cichlid only tank. I
definately want at least one oscar, but i don't want just one fish all
by it self in there so what other fish couldi put in there? i heard
somewhere that a jack dempsey could be a good tankmate, but i heard
they are extremely territorial fish, convicts were other fish i have
wanted to put in my 29g, but someone said they would terrorize the 5
gouramis i have there, so maybe those could go in with oscars? there's
somebody who lives nearby who's convicts keep breeding and is selling
baby's at $0.50 ea.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:53 pm
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i guess this group has pretty much shut down then? no answers? anyways,
in case any one does answer, i've changed my mind and i'm going for a
Jack Dempsey tank, with the hopes of getting a breeding pair. I know i
will need at least 6 in order to find a pair, but coudl any one else
give me any tips or info on JD's?

On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, "dave349" <davester_....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> hi, this is my first post here, i think (may have posted one other on
> here before). anyways, so i have a birthday coming up next month and
> i'm looking to get a bigger aquarium than the 29g that i have now. I'm
> looking at getting a 55-72g, and originally i was thinking of getting
> balas and oscars, but now i'm thinking of maybe a cichlid only tank. I
> definately want at least one oscar, but i don't want just one fish all
> by it self in there so what other fish couldi put in there? i heard
> somewhere that a jack dempsey could be a good tankmate, but i heard
> they are extremely territorial fish, convicts were other fish i have
> wanted to put in my 29g, but someone said they would terrorize the 5
> gouramis i have there, so maybe those could go in with oscars? there's
> somebody who lives nearby who's convicts keep breeding and is selling
> baby's at $0.50 ea.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:12 am
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oh sorry i forgot to mention, i have found a place in my city that
sells tanks for cheap, for now i'm going to get a 75g-150g, but most
likely around 90 or 100g

On Jan 25, 8:42 am, "John" <jpl... DeleteThis @swbell.net> wrote:
> "dave349" <davester_... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1169679188.088723.142230@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...>i guess this group has pretty much shut down then? no answers? anyways,
> > in case any one does answer, i've changed my mind and i'm going for a
> > Jack Dempsey tank, with the hopes of getting a breeding pair. I know i
> > will need at least 6 in order to find a pair, but coudl any one else
> > give me any tips or info on JD's?Jacks get upto 10" long. 6 in a 55 is way too many. They are easy to care
> for but will always be digging in the gravel and uprooting plants. Maybe you
> could just find a breeding pair.http://www.aquabid.com/This is a good place to look.
>
> Good luck,
> John
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:12 am
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On Jan 25, 8:42 am, "John" <jpl... DeleteThis @swbell.net> wrote:
> "dave349" <davester_... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1169679188.088723.142230@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...>i guess this group has pretty much shut down then? no answers? anyways,
> > in case any one does answer, i've changed my mind and i'm going for a
> > Jack Dempsey tank, with the hopes of getting a breeding pair. I know i
> > will need at least 6 in order to find a pair, but coudl any one else
> > give me any tips or info on JD's?Jacks get upto 10" long. 6 in a 55 is way too many. They are easy to care
> for but will always be digging in the gravel and uprooting plants. Maybe you
> could just find a breeding pair.http://www.aquabid.com/This is a good place to look.
>
> Good luck,
> John
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:42 pm
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"dave349" <davester_349.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169679188.088723.142230@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>i guess this group has pretty much shut down then? no answers? anyways,
> in case any one does answer, i've changed my mind and i'm going for a
> Jack Dempsey tank, with the hopes of getting a breeding pair. I know i
> will need at least 6 in order to find a pair, but coudl any one else
> give me any tips or info on JD's?
>
Jacks get upto 10" long. 6 in a 55 is way too many. They are easy to care
for but will always be digging in the gravel and uprooting plants. Maybe you
could just find a breeding pair.
http://www.aquabid.com/ This is a good place to look.

Good luck,
John
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:58 pm
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ok thanks ed!, i have definately moved past the 55g idea, and am
looking now at at least a 75, but mostlikely a 90+ tank. as for
gouramis, those are in my 29g tank, and theres no cichlids in there,
just 2 dwarf gouramis, 3 pygmy gouramis, 5 zebra danios and 3 serpae
tetras. i do not have any cichlids in the house at the moment, i am
planning on getting some after i get a big tank and it is cycled. and
as of right now, i was planning on getting about 6 JD's to try and
breed them, but i just do not have enough "grow out" tanks. so i am
looking for cichlids that can mix.i was thinking maybe some convicts,
and/or and couple oscars, with plans for another 55ish tank that i
could move the oscars into when ever the convicts breed, or a tank
divider.

On Jan 28, 12:49 pm, Edward... DeleteThis @webtv.net (Edward) wrote:
> Hi Dave, I used to have a 125 gallon mixed south american chiclid tank.
> A lot of these fish can be mixed, but make no mistake even a 55 gallon
> tank is not that big to these fish. I read that you have gouramies with
> your chiclids, unless there large gouramies they will eventually be
> outgrown by your chiclids. Bala sharks are not an aggresive fish, they
> may be bullied by larger fish.If you need any other advice or help you
> can post here(I check stuff here about every week) or write me direct
> under the subject matter "Tropical Fish"
> Good Luck, Ed
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:21 pm
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all those fish you've just mentioned are pretty much what i've been
looking into, except for the eel, my mom has a no "no eel" rule, they
creep her out lol.

On Jan 28, 6:53 pm, Edward....RemoveThis@webtv.net (Edward) wrote:
> With good conditions convicts will breed about every couple of months.
> Some other fish I used to have in my big tank were Convicts, Texas
> Chiclids, Jack Dempseys, Large Black Sharks, Firemouths,Jewel Chiclids,
> Clown Knife Fish, and a large Leopard Eel. My catfish of choice was a
> Marble Shovelnose.
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:30 pm
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currently i'm thinking of a set up of liek this

- 2 or 3 convicts
- a jack dempsey and/or an oscar
-and maybe a texas cichlid or a couple bala sharks or red tail shark.

On Jan 28, 7:21 pm, "dave349" <davester_... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> all those fish you've just mentioned are pretty much what i've been
> looking into, except for the eel, my mom has a no "no eel" rule, they
> creep her out lol.
>
> On Jan 28, 6:53 pm, Edward... RemoveThis @webtv.net (Edward) wrote:
>
> > With good conditions convicts will breed about every couple of months.
> > Some other fish I used to have in my big tank were Convicts, Texas
> > Chiclids, Jack Dempseys, Large Black Sharks, Firemouths,Jewel Chiclids,
> > Clown Knife Fish, and a large Leopard Eel. My catfish of choice was a
> > Marble Shovelnose.
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:21 am
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oh ok then, so a

3 convict
1 JD or 1 oscar
1 texas
and some other larger cichlid

would be a good set up?

On Jan 29, 9:30 am, Edward... RemoveThis @webtv.net (Edward) wrote:
> Everything there is good except the bala sharks and redtail, bala sharks
> are non aggressive, and red tails won't be big enough
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:11 pm
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well i was thinking about pairs, but the problem i thought would be is
if i got 2 male, wouldn't they always be constantly fighting? if i got
2 females it woudl probably be ok and if i got a male and female
that'd be fine.

On Jan 29, 4:37 pm, Edward....RemoveThis@webtv.net (Edward) wrote:
> Depending on the size your gonna set up, I'd start with 2 convicts(the
> 3rd will cause problems) 2 Oscars, do like one albino and one red tiger,
> 2 JD's, and 2 texas. Of coarse you'll need a scavenger of some
> type,(Pleco, Channel Cat). Try to get pairs on the cichlids, they'll be
> happier that way.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:35 pm
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On Jan 29, 7:11 pm, "dave349" <davester_....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> well i was thinking about pairs, but the problem i thought would be is
> if i got 2 male, wouldn't they always be constantly fighting? if i got
> 2 females it woudl probably be ok and if i got a male and female
> that'd be fine.
>
> On Jan 29, 4:37 pm, Edward....DeleteThis@webtv.net (Edward) wrote:
>
>
>
> > Depending on the size your gonna set up, I'd start with 2 convicts(the
> > 3rd will cause problems) 2 Oscars, do like one albino and one red tiger,
> > 2 JD's, and 2 texas. Of coarse you'll need a scavenger of some
> > type,(Pleco, Channel Cat). Try to get pairs on the cichlids, they'll be
> > happier that way.
>
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just i heard there's no real way to tell males and females apart when
they're young.
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