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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:44 pm
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Let's talk treats........
I used to buy tons of different treats and have 3 drawers full of them.
Now I try to stick to one or two that I buy over and over (like jerky made
for dogs). I also use cheese as a super treat. Today I used some left over
hot dog. I knew that Maui like hot dog because a "classmate" of his used to
get it (and share) but I didn't think that Cali would enjoy it so much.
Wow, they were willing to do anything for that hot dog! So, how does hot
dog rate in terms of good/bad treat? I notice the sodium is high, among
other things so I wouldn't use it more than once weekly but maybe that's
even too much? If I decide to use it as a treat, I would probably buy
turkey dogs or something somewhat healthy for them. Or, should I just avoid
hot dog all together?
Also, anyone have a good treat recommendation for Maui? I want a small,
low fat treat that he can have lots of each day with no problems. Currently
and for the past several months, I've use human Puffed Wheat cereal. It's
small, soft but with a little crunch, easy and he likes it. Its very cheap
to buy and comes in a huge bag. It stores easily and works great. Is this
a good choice for a treat? Or is there something better out there? Like
low fat treats?
As for Cali, she likes Puffed Wheat ok, but there are alot of times it
isn't very motivating for her and I spoil her by switching to other dog
treats or cheese. Part of me says I shouldn't let her do that but the other
part doesn't care because she could stand to gain some weight. But, if
cheese isn't that good for her, I will switch to something else. Any
suggestions?
So, what does everyone use as treats? Do your dogs like crunchy stuff
or softer treats? Do you bake or buy? People food or dog treats? Always
use the same or different? Kibble only?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:44 pm
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on Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:44:13 GMT, "MauiJNP" <jmh1116 DeleteThis @ptd.net> wrote:
> Any suggestions?
My Sheltie has very serious pancreatic issues and so her diet is carefully
regulated. Last year her vet told me I could give her Cheerios as treats,
and since she's a food inhaler, of course she loves them. Rowan started
giving them to Roxy as training treats, and even Miss. Picky loves them!
We mix 3 different types of treats in her training bag and Cheerios are one
of them. So that's my suggestion, plain old Cheerios.
As to hot dogs, I wouldn't eat them myself or give them to my kids, so I
don't give them to my dogs. My guess is that they are probably fine *in
moderation* but YMMV.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:44 pm
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MauiJNP wrote:
> Let's talk treats........
>
> I used to buy tons of different treats and have 3 drawers full of them.
> Now I try to stick to one or two that I buy over and over (like jerky made
> for dogs). I also use cheese as a super treat. Today I used some left over
> hot dog. I knew that Maui like hot dog because a "classmate" of his used to
> get it (and share) but I didn't think that Cali would enjoy it so much.
> Wow, they were willing to do anything for that hot dog! So, how does hot
> dog rate in terms of good/bad treat? I notice the sodium is high, among
> other things so I wouldn't use it more than once weekly but maybe that's
> even too much? If I decide to use it as a treat, I would probably buy
> turkey dogs or something somewhat healthy for them. Or, should I just avoid
> hot dog all together?
>
> Also, anyone have a good treat recommendation for Maui? I want a small,
> low fat treat that he can have lots of each day with no problems. Currently
> and for the past several months, I've use human Puffed Wheat cereal. It's
> small, soft but with a little crunch, easy and he likes it. Its very cheap
> to buy and comes in a huge bag. It stores easily and works great. Is this
> a good choice for a treat? Or is there something better out there? Like
> low fat treats?
>
> As for Cali, she likes Puffed Wheat ok, but there are alot of times it
> isn't very motivating for her and I spoil her by switching to other dog
> treats or cheese. Part of me says I shouldn't let her do that but the other
> part doesn't care because she could stand to gain some weight. But, if
> cheese isn't that good for her, I will switch to something else. Any
> suggestions?
>
> So, what does everyone use as treats? Do your dogs like crunchy stuff
> or softer treats? Do you bake or buy? People food or dog treats? Always
> use the same or different? Kibble only?
I don't worry too much about the fat content of training treats because
I only feed a tiny morsel at a time and training sessions tend to be
brief. I make my own garlic liver treats:
http://webpages.charter.net/dhfm/homemadelivertreats.html
But I also use snibbles of string cheese (mozzerella sticks) or tiny
bits of oven dried hot dogs*.
*This recipe is courtesy of Sharon West, of WestInn Kennels... Cut
hotdogs into rounds the thickness of a nickel. Quarter the rounds.
Place in a single layer on a cookie sheet and bake at 300 degrees,
stirring every 5 minutes or so, until dried out (maybe 40 minutes).
From what I've seen with my own dogs, smelly treats are the best. >> Stay informed about: let's talk treats! |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:13 pm
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>> Any suggestions?
>
> My Sheltie has very serious pancreatic issues and so her diet is carefully
> regulated. Last year her vet told me I could give her Cheerios as treats,
> and since she's a food inhaler, of course she loves them. Rowan started
> giving them to Roxy as training treats, and even Miss. Picky loves them!
> We mix 3 different types of treats in her training bag and Cheerios are
> one
> of them. So that's my suggestion, plain old Cheerios.
>
that's what I started with before the puffed wheat. Maui likes them as well
but hasn't had them in a long time because I have a HUGE bag of puffed
wheat. Maybe I will just buy the Cheerios again and mix them in. Maui
might enjoy the variety so I'll add it to my list.
this also reminds me of a funny story.....my 2 year old nephew loves to give
the dogs treats so I usually let him give them puffed wheat. one day, my
neice was eating them and he said "lia eat dog food". poor kid didn't
realize it was the other way around! now, he eats them but calls them a
"treat"
>
> As to hot dogs, I wouldn't eat them myself or give them to my kids, so I
> don't give them to my dogs.
>
we aren't big on hot dogs either. I eat them a few times in the summer but
usually only Turkey dogs, which are a little healthier and much tastier (at
least I think that). >> Stay informed about: let's talk treats! |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:20 pm
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Jen,
Almost any thing goes in the way of treats at my house. I do try to
steer clear of table foods.
They seem to prefer crunchy stuff, but never turn their nose up at
anything whether it be chewy or crunchy.
One of the four has a weight problem and I give him baby carrots.
Actually 3 of them chomp on the carrots. My lady is older and her teeth
are kind of tender so she won't do carrots.
I like Lynne's idea of Cheerios especially for training purposes.
Why didn't I think of that?
I feed good dog food so I am not above buying cheap-o dog biscuits.
(generic brands).
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:07 am
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In article <No6dneyt8-ryzmrYnZ2dnUVZ_uiknZ2d.DeleteThis@ptd.net>,
"MauiJNP" <jmh1116.DeleteThis@ptd.net> wrote:
> Let's talk treats........
>
> I used to buy tons of different treats and have 3 drawers full of them.
> Now I try to stick to one or two that I buy over and over (like jerky made
> for dogs). I also use cheese as a super treat. Today I used some left over
> hot dog. I knew that Maui like hot dog because a "classmate" of his used to
> get it (and share) but I didn't think that Cali would enjoy it so much.
> Wow, they were willing to do anything for that hot dog! So, how does hot
> dog rate in terms of good/bad treat? I notice the sodium is high, among
> other things so I wouldn't use it more than once weekly but maybe that's
> even too much? If I decide to use it as a treat, I would probably buy
> turkey dogs or something somewhat healthy for them. Or, should I just avoid
> hot dog all together?
>
> Also, anyone have a good treat recommendation for Maui? I want a small,
> low fat treat that he can have lots of each day with no problems. Currently
> and for the past several months, I've use human Puffed Wheat cereal. It's
> small, soft but with a little crunch, easy and he likes it. Its very cheap
> to buy and comes in a huge bag. It stores easily and works great. Is this
> a good choice for a treat? Or is there something better out there? Like
> low fat treats?
>
> As for Cali, she likes Puffed Wheat ok, but there are alot of times it
> isn't very motivating for her and I spoil her by switching to other dog
> treats or cheese. Part of me says I shouldn't let her do that but the other
> part doesn't care because she could stand to gain some weight. But, if
> cheese isn't that good for her, I will switch to something else. Any
> suggestions?
>
> So, what does everyone use as treats? Do your dogs like crunchy stuff
> or softer treats? Do you bake or buy? People food or dog treats? Always
> use the same or different? Kibble only?
>
> ~~~~~
> Jenny, Maui and Cali :)
Turkey franks. They're cheap and healthy.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:37 am
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on Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:07:18 GMT, Suzie-Q <sme617x.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Turkey franks. They're cheap and healthy.
Do they have nitrates? That's why I have always avoided hot dogs. We
don't use any preserved meats, but if there are turkey franks w/out
nitrates, I'd give them to the dogs as treats. The kids might even like
them.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:09 am
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:09 am
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Lynne wrote:
> Do they have nitrates?
Yes, they do. You *can* get nitrite free hot dogs from some health
food stores, but they'll come frozen because they aren't preserved.
The ones you get in the deli meat section of the grocery store
absolutely have nitrites in them, though.
> That's why I have always avoided hot dogs. We
> don't use any preserved meats, but if there are turkey franks w/out
> nitrates, I'd give them to the dogs as treats. The kids might even like
> them.
Exactly why I don't give them to my dog.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:15 am
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on Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:09:57 GMT, Shelly <scouvrette DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yes, they do. You *can* get nitrite free hot dogs from some health
> food stores, but they'll come frozen because they aren't preserved.
> The ones you get in the deli meat section of the grocery store
> absolutely have nitrites in them, though.
That's what I always figured, but when people say "healthy" when describing
hot dogs, I wonder if there's something I don't know.
>> That's why I have always avoided hot dogs. We
>> don't use any preserved meats, but if there are turkey franks w/out
>> nitrates, I'd give them to the dogs as treats. The kids might even
>> like them.
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> Exactly why I don't give them to my dog.
Nitrates are bad news. Not only do they trigger my migraines and make me
want to die, but they are thought to be a cause of cancer.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:20 am
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On Mar 14, 6:51 am, Shelly <scouvre....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lynne wrote:
> > As to hot dogs, I wouldn't eat them myself or give them to my kids, so I
> > don't give them to my dogs. My guess is that they are probably fine *in
> > moderation* but YMMV.
>
> Mmmm. Morningstar farms hot dogs are *most* excellent. I was never
> a hot dog fan until I tried them. Now, I buy them a couple of times
> a year. I wouldn't give those to dogs, either, though, because they
> contain soy. Also, they're a little pricey for dog treats.
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I only eat hot dogs in Michigan. I prefer Koegels Beef Hotdogs
personally. Michigan oddly enough has strict laws regarding hot dogs
that most other states that I know of do not have. As a result,
Koegels in Michigan are different than Koegels in most other states.
Not saying they are healthy for you, but they taste better, and they
have fewer unmentionables in them. I even know someone from Florida
that takes Koegels home after every visit.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:48 am
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MauiJNP wrote:
> Or, should I just avoid hot dog all together?
I would be concerned about the nitrites, personally, not the fat. I
wouldn't use any sort of salted meat products, like deli meats, on a
regular basis. I would also be leery of jerky pet treats for the
same reason.
> Is this a good choice for a treat?
Sure. So are Cheerios (or generic equivalents). Someone--Sarah
maybe--suggested storing a container of them in the fridge with a
small chunk of braunschweiger. The braunschweiger just about makes
me faint from the gross factor, but it stinks up the treats *very*
nicely, which makes them even more appealing.
> Part of me says I shouldn't let her do that but the other
> part doesn't care because she could stand to gain some weight. But, if
> cheese isn't that good for her, I will switch to something else. Any
> suggestions?
It's a *treat*. In this instance, Cali *should* get to dictate what
she prefers, otherwise what's the point?
> So, what does everyone use as treats? Do your dogs like crunchy stuff
> or softer treats? Do you bake or buy? People food or dog treats? Always
> use the same or different? Kibble only?
Off the top of my head, kibble, Cheerios, bread, fruit, frozen green
beans, HB egg white cubes, unsalted potato chips (yum!), raw
unsalted peanuts, chopped up frozen fish sticks, and chicken (the
real thing, not lunch meat).
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:51 am
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Lynne wrote:
> As to hot dogs, I wouldn't eat them myself or give them to my kids, so I
> don't give them to my dogs. My guess is that they are probably fine *in
> moderation* but YMMV.
Mmmm. Morningstar farms hot dogs are *most* excellent. I was never
a hot dog fan until I tried them. Now, I buy them a couple of times
a year. I wouldn't give those to dogs, either, though, because they
contain soy. Also, they're a little pricey for dog treats.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:21 pm
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Lynne wrote:
> That's what I always figured, but when people say "healthy" when describing
> hot dogs, I wonder if there's something I don't know.
Usually, they mean regular turkey hot dogs, which are actually not
any kind of healthy.
> Nitrates are bad news.
Seriously! I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.
> Not only do they trigger my migraines and make me
> want to die, but they are thought to be a cause of cancer.
They caused psychotic episodes in my two youngest brothers.
Nutrasweet, too, in the next-to-youngest.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:27 pm
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the.longest.username.available.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> I only eat hot dogs in Michigan.
Wouldn't it make more sense to only eat hot dogs made in Michigan?
> I prefer Koegels Beef Hotdogs personally.
They're still chock full of nitrites.
> and they have fewer unmentionables in them.
I don't think dogs care about "unmentionables."
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