Can we talk about others dogs?

"Dogman" wrote
cshenk" wrote:

BLUF: you come over as compartmented thinking. You do not seem to 'think
outside the box'.

(BLUF= botton line up first)

>>Yes, I have dyslexia. It was mentioned in a post to Char.
>
> I try to avoid posts about Char, so I probably didn't see it.

Sorry about that. I'm trying to be topical while you are asking for OT
answers.

Short version. I'm not supposed to be able to read at all and have been a
special ed kid. So was Einstein. We function.

>>> It's nothing to be embarassed about.
>>
>>Nope, nor am I worried if my spelling tends to be 'unique' or folks notice
>>it. I got over that a long time ago. Now and again I trip over a word I
>>never knew I spelled wrong as it looks right to me.
>
>>Means (even if not spelled right) to 'shift' or 'to change' or 'move
>>sideways'. Transition or to transit sideways would be another meaning. I
>>tried dictionary.com but didnt find it. Irritating.
>
> Perhaps that word is "segue"?

Might be! Phonetics the same? 'See-g'

> I hope you understand how those of us who do not have dyslexia
> soemtimes have a hard time parsing your words?

I hope you can understand that dyslexia comes with stuttering and we tend to
have a larger use vocabulary.

> Perhaps that a good reason to use fewer, safer, words?

I'm trying really hard to be polite here. I got over the teacher in 5th
grade who said I couldnt use the word 'edible' when stuttering swapping and
had to just use 'eat'. She was a freaking idiot.

>>There have been 15 posts this year in rpd.activities. They are all spam
>>except your *own* post asking about springers. Apparently trying to move
>>people to there is my guess?
>
> Your guess is a good one, Carol.

Ok, so we crosspost to there? Is that your intention?

> And the longest journeys begin with just one step in the right
> direction.
>
> Will you take it?

I will consider crossposting although it seems wrong.

> We currently have two groups going, and it should take only a little
> cooperation from everyone currently here, to get them all going again.
>
> Won't you help me do that?

I am happy to work on this one. Will you start nerw threads in the others?
Thats been the main flaw. Wishing for traffic means nothing. Generating it
is quite different.

>>> They have little traffic because inconsiderate people like you insist
>>> upon ignoring them.
>>
>>Then that is how it is.
>
> So...you have no desire to start doing the right thing, to help the
> groups get going again, to help newbies find information?

I haver a desire to help this one not DIE and later, once done, perhaps with
your help work on the others.

> Yes, of course it is. But "running my dog" is an activity, just like
> agility, field trialing, bikejoring, sled dog racing, etc.

How compartmentalised. Interesting. So, I cant talk training or behavior
in the rpd.behavior group as there was once a subset on agility trials.

>>Personally I found Caroline's information invaulable and
>>have more questions for her. They *may* help others as well. That it
>>lead
>>to a specific training device and now back to how to use it best, shouldnt
>>be a problem. I want to learn from her and you shouldnt be playing
>>net-nanny preventing it.
>
> But I'm not trying to prevent it, Carol. I'm simply trying to move it
> to the right place, so that, for example, newbies can more easily find
> it, etc.
>
> You understand that, right?

I get you being a net-nanny. You are telling me I can't talk with people
here even if I am asking how to train a dog and what behaviors to look for
that may not be good.

>>Wanna revive it? You do it. I'm working on this one to some level of
>>success.
>
> What you're doing is helping to ruin the dog groups.

So kill file me and ignore. It bothers me not at all that you don't care to
see traffic build. I want to see more of us in here and slowly once we hit
the point, direct them to the other groups. You want it 'NOW NOW NOW' and
that isnt going to happen.

> So why not invite her there?

Caroline, want to have me copy and paste the whoole thread there so you can
catchup and reply after you add a new place and download about 1700
messages, most of which date from 2005 then delete them so yu can find me
again?

LOL!

>>I'll try to back down though on 'CEO' sorta terms usage here. There was
>>no
>>intent to confuse although it happened.
>
> What is a "CEO sorta term," and what does it have to do with the word
> "tangents"?

Chief Executive Offier and 'business language'.

> Are you a female chauvinist?

No. I just work in the executive level. Product delivery and
Opportunities.

>>For a person who desires only
>>on topic posts, tyhis is a pretty odd request.
>
> How is that an odd request?
>
>>Ask me again if you want more OT stuff.
>
> I don't mind OT stuff from time, I just don't like a steady diet of
> them, or those who intentionally devote entire threads to them.

Ok, but you asked so dont 'blame' me later.

>>Ok, do you grasp the concept that your posting one note in rpd.activities
>>doesnt make it work to move a topic on how to train a dog to run with a
>>bike
>>when all the folks I can find who have experience are here? Just
>>checking.
>
> The reason they're all here, and not there, is because the discussion
> is currently taking place here, when it should be taking place there.
>
> Can you grasp that little bit of logic?

Sure Honey! Got it fine! Did you grasp that there is no relevant traffic
there yet? Hasnt been for a year or more?

>>>>Forgive me, I was unaware you were the moderator of this group.
>>>
>>> I'm not the moderator of any newsgroup, Carol, but I would like to see
>>> the dog groups rebound. If I can get people like you to help me do
>>> that, it may still be possible.
>>> Why would you not want to help me?
>>
>>Functionality. Grow one group up until it needs to be split. There is no
>>critical traffic load here yet.
>
> We're not talking about critical traffic, Carol. We're talking about
> doing the right thing, helping newbies find helpful information,
> adhering to Usenet protocol, etc.

You are talking non-functional and wish lists. I am not here to solve your
woes with all the rpd groups. I am actively trying to generate traffic then
widen it on one of them. If you wish to do the same in another, do so.
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On Sat, 15 May 2010 20:19:44 -0400, Dogman wrote:

>On Sat, 15 May 2010 17:02:44 -0400, sighthounds & siberians
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:43:58 -0400, Dogman wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 15 May 2010 09:20:58 -0400, sighthounds & siberians
>>> wrote:
>
>>>But apparently, even for the old regulars, not so much about the dogs.
>>
>>A few of the old regulars talk a lot about what their dogs are doing,
>>but for some reason they're not using the 'forum' so that the dog talk
>>is intespersed with all the general stuff. And there is virtually no
>>discussion of general behavior/training questions/problems/issues.
>
>You mean it's not "compartmentalized" so that people can actually find
>it?

Correct.

>Heh.
>
>Too bad.

So it is.
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"Paul E. Schoen" wrote
> "cshenk" wrote
>> "Dogman" wrote

> Dogman>> Then why not use his name, to eliminate any confusion? You were
>>> talking about a lot of things, Carol, not just Schoen's leash.
>>
> cshenk> Paul I think it was.
>
> Actually, I was talking about special items such as the GL head collar and
> the EZ walk harness, as well as some nice regular collars and leashes that
> were on sale.

Hehe so many conversations, so little time!

> cshenk> Lets seege to your list:

> Dogman> What does that mean?
> cshenk> Means I moved your list out of the order of your post.

> Dogman> I looked up the word "seege," and lo and behold, I found no such
> word.
>
> I think she meant segue, which is pronounced "Segway", as the two-wheeled
> vehicle.

Phonetically, 'see-g' Like in Seig Heil (Nazi salute).

> But I'm not making fun of dyslexia, or anyone who may be a "Miss Peller".
> :)

Grin, thanks.

> cshenk> Means (even if not spelled right) to 'shift' or 'to change' or
> 'move
>> sideways'. Transition or to transit sideways would be another meaning. I
>> tried dictionary.com but didnt find it. Irritating.

>> I prefer to try to get more people here. Get 'a' group going well then
>> span out when you need to split things due to too much traffic.

> Dorman>> Or..according to Usenet protocol, you could have taken the post
> to the
>>> right group, .activities.

>> Is Caroline even bothering to read that one anymore?

> Let's face it. Usenet is imploding except for a few active NGs. Sometimes
> the specific subgroup no longer has much meaning, and people are attracted
> to those that are active. I looked for activity in the rec.pets.cats.*
> genre and the one that seemed to be used the most, by far, was
> rec.pets.cats.anecdotes. I no longer subscribe because I no longer have a
> cat, and many people there are, well, "catty"!

Try rec.pets.cats.health+behavior, still valid and some good conversations
there.

> Since there are three or four reasonably active categories in the dogs
> NGs, (behavior, breeds, health, and rescue), I see no reason to attempt to
> rejuvenate a cadaver such as activities. There aren't many newbies, and
> many ISPs have dropped usenet in the last year, so only a tech-savvy
> newbie will even think about usenet. If they do, they will probably search
> for one with recent posts. Otherwise they might as well post to
> alt.device.null:

Yup, my point.

I see a few drive by's in the rpd.activities now.

> Dogman>>>> 2. Be adhering to newsgroup protocol.
>>>>
> cshenk>>>LOL, wasn't it you who told me not to be a net-nanny?
>>>
> Dogman>> That's not being a net-nanny, Carol.
>>> It's an attempt to get the dog groups running like they used to run.
>>
> cshenk> Get over it. They wont. Cox is cutting newsgroups too. Thats the
> last big
>> provider of 'one stop shopping' for newsgroups. I'll shift to giganews.
>> We will get smaller and concentrating assets to groups that have valid
>> traffic is going to happen.

> Exactly. But try TeraNews. Tera is 10 times Giga is ten times Mega. Is
> there a Pet-a-news?

My needs are small but the eternal-september set didnt excite me. I have a
month to decide.

> cshenk> Wishful thinking. I prefer to live in the real world.
> rpd.activities was
>> really popular in 2005. You can see it drift down until it is just 'come
>> see my blog' or 'buy this tool from me' spam.
>>
>> Wanna revive it? You do it. I'm working on this one to some level of
>> success.
>
> Me too!

Yup! Hope you were not upset at the 'Cash and Muttley show' comment. I was
meaning to see things from others. You and I are fairly prolific in talking
of our dogs. It was working nicely for a bit. I thought it was cool to
hear about others. I definately want to hear about Caroline and her
pooches.

> Dogman>> To make it even easier for newbies to find information they're
> looking
>>> for. For example, what newbie would ever think to look for information
>>> regarding flea prevention in the .behavior group?
>>
> cshenk> Um, there was no good info on flea prevention here.
>>
>>>>Why do you feel you have to control the traffic?
>>
> Dogman>> Because it makes it easier for newbies to find the information
> they're
>>> looking for, because it's the right way to do things, and because it's
>>> Usenet protocol.
>>
>> Interesting. I find it non-functional to direct people to dead groups.
>> I guess we just have to agree to disagree on that one.
>
> Yup!

> Dogman>> I read all of the above. Then I read it again. And I still have
> no
>>> idea what that "useful device" actually is.
>>
> cshenk> http://www.thedogoutdoors.com/dog-bike-leash.html
>>
> Dogman>> And furthermore, this belongs in .activities, and there's already
> a
>>> thread about this very topic over there.
>>
> cshenk> No, there is a single post by YOU trying to move the traffic over
> there but
>> Caroline, who knows this stuff is HERE.
>>
> One stop shopping. Yes!!!

Absolutely.

> Some women do have "ten-gents". They are gentlemen who are well-bronzed by
> the sun, and they might be found lurking in the bushes...

hehehe! I'll stick to my one. Like Shrek though, I have layers.

> Dogman>>>> But please don't do that here, in .behavior.

> cshenk>>>Forgive me, I was unaware you were the moderator of this group.
>>>
> Dogman>> I'm not the moderator of any newsgroup, Carol, but I would like
> to see
>>> the dog groups rebound. If I can get people like you to help me do
>>> that, it may still be possible.
>>> Why would you not want to help me?

> cshenk> Functionality. Grow one group up until it needs to be split.
> There is no
>> critical traffic load here yet.

>> When I came in about 6 months ago (guessing) the traffic was 1-2 a week.
>> It seemed to be largely Char responding to every post with raw feeding
>> and use no meds or vaccines. Now we run as much as 20 a day.

>> My take is give it time to grow from seedling to sapling before asking it
>> be 'split' again to what suited in 2005 or so with multiple rpd groups.

> As the "whine" said, "My sediments exactly" !

LOL! Careful Paul, some here aren't real quick on the uptake. I however,
enjoyed the tangent!
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"Dogma Boy" wrote in message

>
> But on my terms, not yours.
>
> And if you don't like it, you can stick it in your freakin' ear.

Notice to newbies and lurkers. Just ignore the funny guy with fur and a long
tail. He just barks a lot, but his teeth are rotten, and he can't bite.
That's why his words stink so bad...

P&M
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