HOWEDY spot,
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"Eddie" <EPTokyo RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Hi ! First time posting... I have a few questions, but I'll post them
>> separately to keep them topically appropriate...
I PROMISED Eddie I'd follow up each of the
respondent's posts with their own POSTED
CASE HISTORIES of HURTIN INTIMIDATIN
an MURDERIN dogs and their MENTAL HEELTH
CASE HISTORIES when available.
> He's a puppy who follows you everywhere. Not a bad habit in my opinion
> this way you
> know where he's at and what he's doing...less chance of him getting to
> things he shouldn't.
That so, spot?
> I prefer my dogs to be that way, some find it
> annoying but they are pack animals and actually
> prefer to be in human company.
DESPITE it bein ANNOYING, spot?
You can't have it BOTH ways nodoGdameneDmore.
> Playing is a puppys life as long as he's not yelping
> in pain I don't see the skids as a problem.
You've crippled SEVERAL of your own dogs.
> I have a 3 month old who plays with my 3 year old
> and they both chase each other and skid around the kitchen on a daily
> basis.
Yeah. lynne's dogs are begining to attack each other.
> You should see the way they play in the yard where they really have room
> to open up and zoom around.
That's an anXXXIHOWESNESS relief mechanism.
> Gabby gets tumbled through the grass pretty regularly during these play
> sessions and she
> gets back up and does it again.
Till maybe WON day she won't get up so good.
> Celeste
Here's you CRIPPLING and MURDERIN
your own chronically deathly ill dogs, spotty:
Subject: Vestibular syndrome
INTERFACE BETWEEN VESTIBULAR DYSFUNCTION AND ANXIETY:
MORE THAN JUST PSYCHOGENICITY.
HOWEDY spot aka celeste you pathetic miserable
stinkin lyin animal murderin MENTAL CASE, and
of curse you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
veterinary OBSFUCATIONIST bugF'nNUTS,
"Spot" <noSPA... RemoveThis @somewhere.net> wrote in message news:FrxWh.1560$Zm.
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> I didn't want to alarm you but my Brandy went down hill really fast once
> she went full blown with this.
THAT'S curiHOWES, spot. Accordin to the literature
symptoms GO AWAY a few days after onset <{}'; ~ ) >
> The vet felt that as quickly as she went down hill that it was definately
> a brain tumor.
THAT'S curiHOWES, spot. There seems to be a
lotta THAT goin arHOWEND here abHOWETS <{}: ~ ( >
> For the two month this was full blown it wasn't too bad.
THAT SO, spotty?
> The occasional stumble, the droopy face, then she lost all feeling in the
> one side of her face and actually was biting through her lip.
Well spotty, what'd you EXXXPECT? NUTHIN'S CHANGED.
> I was careful to keep her eyes moist and to make sure she ate and I
> cleaned her mouth out with a wet paper town when done because she'd get
> food stuck in her gums. In the end I came home from work one day to fine
> her hardly able to walk and really in bad shape. She went from hardly
> walking to curled in a ball for two days then finally to completely
> paralyzed and she had no idea who we were.
Oh? Was you a DIFFERENT spot, *THEN*, celeste?
We'll get back to you later, spotty...
> "buglady" <buglad... RemoveThis @bigfootdog.com> wrote in message
> news:cwpWh.3781$j63.187@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> "Spot" <noSPA... RemoveThis @somewhere.net> wrote in message
>> news:t6oWh.764$sb.459@trndny05... One of the side effects is the
>> inability to blink. When this happened with Brandy we had to keep
>> ointment in her eye and I actually would move her eye lid a couple times
>> a day to keep the eye from drying out.
>> .....Yeah, after reading about it, I made sure I kept checking her eyes.
>> She actually closed her eyes and tried to sleep so I knew she could close
>> them. Vet told me that there was a dog in there that was much much worse
>> than mine, couldn't blink, tongue was sort of hanging out and dog
>> couldn't drink or eat.
>> It's my impressioin that the variety called idiopathic is transitory,
>> brain tumors much worse.
>> buglady take out the dog before replying
INTERFACE BETWEEN VESTIBULAR DYSFUNCTION AND ANXIETY:
MORE THAN JUST PSYCHOGENICITY.
Otology & Neurotology. 22(3):426-427, May 2001.
Current Opinion in Neurology. 14(1):41-46, February 2001.
Jacob, Rolf G. a; Furman, Joseph M. b
Abstract:
Anxiety and dizziness are co-morbid symptoms in a larger
percentage of patients than would be expected from chance
alone. Such patients have an increased handicap and poorer
prognosis. In this review, we discuss the interface between
vestibular disorders and anxiety disorders.
The two conditions are functionally related via both
somatopsychic and psychosomatic mechanisms, and are
linked via overlapping neural circuits that include
monoaminergic pathways and the parabrachial nucleus
network. An alternative conceptualization to the
common notion of 'psychogenic' dizziness is presented.
Implications for patient management are discussed.
(C) 2001 Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, Inc.
Türkiye Klinikleri ANA SAYFA SON SAYI GEÇMIS SAYILAR English
Year: 2005 Volume: 1 No:40
is There A Common Neurological Background Of
The Vestibular And Anxiety/panic Disorders?
Dr. Fethi IDIMANa
aNöroloji AD, Dokuz Eylül Üniversitesi Tip Fakültesi, IZMIR
The most frequent and important symptom of vestibular
disorders is vertigo, and in attacks, anxiety and panic
disorders have been associated with vertigo in about 40-
50% of the patients. It has been suggested that interface
between vestibular dysfunction and anxiety is more than
just psychogenicity.
Recently, neurological basis for balance-anxiety /
panic disorders have been investigated in many studies.
Neuroanatomical basis, pharmacological links, the
relationships of neurotransmitters and therapeutical
efforts for the vestibular system and anxiety/panic
disorders have been evaluated in many reports.
The present study is a review about neuroanatomical and
neuropharmacological correlates of vestibular system and
anxiety/panic disorders.
Keywords: Vestibular system,vertigo, anxiety/panic
disorders, otonomical manifestations
Turkiye Klinikleri J Int Med Sci 2005, 1(40):57-61
Antidepressants and dizziness
Renato T. Ramos
University of São Paulo Medical School, São Paulo, Brazil
Despite several evidences supporting a close relationship
between dizziness and anxiety symptoms, the role of anti-
depressants in the treatment of such conditions remains
poorly explored. The high prevalence of dizziness during
serotonin reuptake inhibitors discontinuation syndrome and
the few reports suggesting efficacy of antidepressants in
treating some vestibular disorders justify a careful
investigation.
Neurophysiologic studies suggest possible focus of
investigation on mechanisms of drug action. Psychophysiologic
studies also suggest a possible role of antidepressant
drugs in improving balance control and cognitive functioning.
Controlled studies involving antidepressants with selective
action in different neurotransmitters systems are necessary
to elucidate the complex pathophysiologic mechanisms involving
emotional and balance control. For future researches, special
attention must be paid to the methodology of balance evaluation
and the interaction between posture control and cognitive
functioning.
Key Words: dizziness . antidepressants .
balance control . vestibular testing . anxiety
Subject: Head Tilt In Dogs
HOWEDY Doc,
JGW wrote:
> >> 1. how to distinguish a central cause from a peripheral cause
> > Look for deficits that suggest central cause, i.e. seizures, facial
> > nerve deficits, propriaceptive deficits in the limbs.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard relies on POSTED CASE HISTORY DATA
to DIEagnose heelth and behavior problems, Doctor <{) ; ~ ) >
> Thanks. Hard to check proprioception because she couldn't stand. She had
> worsening of an underlying Horner's and her tongue tended to deviate to
> the side of the head tilt.
The "head tilt" was probably "wobbler's DIS-EASE" as
was the likely CAUSE of the "Homer's Syndrome" aka
STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy
Wizard's Syndrome <{) ' ~ ) >
"Horner's syndrome is associated with damage to the
sympathetic innervation to the eye. The damage may
have numerous causes, and may occur anywhere along
the course of the nerve's route from the brain to
the eye. Thus Horner's syndrome may be associated
with (strictly in anatomical sequence - not probability)
brain tumours, spinal cord injury in the neck, thoracic
tumours such as lymphosarcoma, injuries to the neck from
fighting, choke collar injury or difficult venipuncture,
middle ear infections, and viral, immune mediated or
idiopathic neuropathies."
> >> 2. if it's going to improve, by what time do you typically start to
> >> see signs of beginning improvement?
> > Depends on causation.
The CAUSE is STRESS and TRAUMA from traditional handling
and training methods. We can DISCUSS that if you LIKE <{) ; ~ ) >
> > If it's true idopathic vestibular syndrome, usually improvement is
> > noted in a couple of weeks.
There AIN'T NO SUCH THING as "IDIOPATHIC" NUTHIN.
HERE'S HOWE COME your dogs are DYIN from STRESS
INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's
Syndrome <{}: ~ ( >
HOWEDY spot,
From: "Spot" <NoSpa... RemoveThis @verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 Subject:
Re: How Do I Handle Her?
> I have always used a no-pull halter
That's a choking harness, spot. Dogs DON'T LIKE
GETTIN CHOKED no matter HOWE you call it, spot.
> and it works like a charm.
It HURTS and INTIMDIATES your dog and teaches IT
to FEAR you HURTING HIM someMOORE, spot.
> You can find them at Walmart sometimes and most any pet store will carry
> them.
Yeah. But you won't find ANY intelligent kindly dog owners
using them, spot. ONLY DOG ABUSERS HURT INTIMDIATE and MURDER
innocent critters and try to get HOWET callin THAT, trainin.
> It's a collar the 2 D rings at the bottom and a Yshaped piece at the top.
> There are 2 other padded strips of cording where you slide one under each
> leg from the top Y connector and attach to the individual D rings below.
> The top piece of these slide through the Y at the top and leash attaches
> to the top. Basically when the dog pulls it tightens and puts pressuer
> under the legs.
And they LIKE THAT, do they, spot?
> The dogs don't like the pressure
Ohhh. HOWE COME?
> and it throws them off balance as they pull harder.
And that's to teach the dog to naturally want to be with
you every place you go, is that correct, spot?
> They soon learn not to pull.
That so, spot?
Your dog AIN'T PULLIN on accHOWENT of you're HURTING HIM.
Take off your choking harness and your dog will pull.
Take off your leash and your dog will RUN HOWET ON YOU
on accHOWENT of you're a dog abusing punk thug coward
mental case.
REMEMBER, spotty?
> I had tried everything out there to walk Barney
You mean you TRIED EVERY THING TO HURT YOUR DOG, spot.
> and nothing else would ever work.
Oh. THAT'S on accHOWENT of there AIN'T NO APUPRIATE
WAY TO HURT and INTIMIDATE your dog, spot. THAT'S
HOWE COME DOGS GO NUTS and GET DEAD, spot.
> He would constantly pull me
On accHOWENT of you was CONSTANTLY TRYING TO CHOKE HIM, spot.
> once I found these halters the whole walking experience was a joy.
That so?:
"The dogs don't like the pressure and it
throws them off balance as they pull harder."
> Celeste
And THAT'S HOWE COME your dog GOT a "BRAIN TUMOR".
> At that point we chose to give her peace.
You mean you MURDERED her you freakin dog abusin ignorameHOWES.
> I hope your dog is ok and that it's nothing as bad as Brandy was.
"My one dog Brandy was abused by her former owner
She too often stayed back out of the way either
in another room or at the edge of the current one
just looking and observing. Eventually as she got
up her confidence and trust in me she started
following me around."
You mean, when you wasn't jerkin chokin an shockin her, spot?:
Re: Anti-bark collar?
HOWEDY spot,
Spot wrote:
> Like Marie says
marie is a lying dog abusing MENTAL CASE like
yourself, spot. marie's dog Macula has attacked
innocent passersbye and is no longer welcome to
join her pals in their dog walking club and marie
just wrote in last week abHOWET her dog Macula's
EXXXCESSIVE BARKING followed by shittin in her
HOWES <{); ~ ) >
> they are a great training tool
That so? HOWE COME IT DIDN'T WORK for marie?
> and should be used as such.
You're a dog abusing mental case, spot. You
HURT and INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs and LIE
abHOWET it.
> I purchased the PetSafe Deluxe Big Dog Trainer at www.petco.com
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
> It is not automatic like some collars that go off when the dog barks.
> With this there is a remote that you control. The idea is to give a
> verbal correction
You mean scold threaten and intimidate...
> followed by a tone.
MOORE scolding threatening and intimidating...
> If that does not work after you tone the dog once or twice
You mean, there's NO METHOD?
> you then have the option of giving it an stimulation
You mean a medical grade static like stimulation.
> from levels of 1 to 10 depending upon the dogs reaction.
Dogs GO INSANE from gettin shocked, spot.
> I initially bought it due to her flipping out over a neighbor shoveling
> snow.
You mean you got THE SAME PROBLEM.
> After she was spooked by this she thought that every time she went out
> she had to take barking fits regardless of the time of day or night.
She was AFRAID.
So you HURT her.
> Like yourself I don't want my neighbors pissed off at me
You're a VERY nice lady.
> and with our hours it's not unusual to take her out at 3 am.
Yeah...
> I found that in less than 2 days with a small amount of stimulation she
> learned what quiet ment.
That so?
> I also found that her prey drive is high and used the collar to break her
> of bunny chasing.
That so?
> The first time she got away from me before I knew what was going on. The
> next morning I was waiting for her and she barely got around the fence and
> to the back corner before I left her have it at level 10.
You could train your dog not to chase bunnys by PRAISING her.
> This may seem cruel to some people
Not to HOWER dog lovers...
> but if it means when I yell stop that she does
If you TRAINED her NOT TO DO THAT you WOULDN'T
NEED to SHOCK her when she doesn't stop when
you yell stop...
> it's worth that little bit she had to endure.
That so?
> Just yesterday she started down my drive way barking at the neighbor.
See?
> I yelled Lady stop and back she came.
You got LUCKY.
> She wasn't even wearing the collar.
BWEEEAAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!!
> I rarely put it on her now.
Right...
> Celeste
"micha el" <spam_yurs... RemoveThis @spamyourmamma.com>
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Anyway, contrary to your PR, this is what
it felt like to me when I got shocked by
Hope's collar.
It felt like a bomb going off in my
hand and forearm.
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>> how effective are these electronic fences in keeping a dog on a
>> property????
Some run through it. Others get shocked and become
too scared to go out in the yard anymore.
Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog,
because the dog got caught right in the path of
the shock and will now not go near his person,
won't go outside.
Just hides under a desk in the house.
------------------------
"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.
"I know this is a hard subject to bring up without
starting the whole cruelty thread again so I'll
state my opinion once and won't defend it further:
any method can be cruel for some dogs.
Even the slightest punishment was wrong for Cubbe at the
beginning, but we've come a long way since then.She trusts
us now as I mentioned in a recent post. Point is, she's been
rewarded for coming, but she's never been punished, even in
the mildest way, for not coming.
Is it time for that?
What might I look for to tell?"
"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshu... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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After talking with the vet yesterday and watching
Cubbe all day today, I'm convinced that the shaking
is behavioral, not physical. Naturally I'll continue
keeping an eye on her, but when I add everything
up, I don't see symptoms of anything neurological--
and the vet agrees.
--Lia
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> He was next to me and I could see his neck muscles pulsing. He didn't
> even blink an eye. Janet Boss
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> > > I can't imagine needing anything higher than a 5 with it, even with an
> > > insensitive dog like a Lab.
An INSENSITIVE DOG???
> > I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but I had apointer ignore
> > a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.
From: ThePetAlchem... RemoveThis @FastMail.FM
Date: 3 Jul 2005 20:15:46 -0700
Subject: Re: Anti-bark collar?
HOWEDY spot,
Spot wrote:
> Like Marie says
marie is a lying dog abusing MENTAL CASE like
yourself, spot. marie's dog Macula has attacked
innocent passersbye and is no longer welcome to
join her pals in their dog walking club and marie
just wrote in last week abHOWET her dog Macula's
EXXXCESSIVE BARKING followed by shittin in her
HOWES <{); ~ ) >
> they are a great training tool
That so? HOWE COME IT DIDN'T WORK for marie?
> and should be used as such.
You're a dog abusing mental case, spot. You
HURT and INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs and LIE
abHOWET it.
> I purchased the PetSafe Deluxe Big Dog Trainer at www.petco.com
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
> It is not automatic like some collars that go off when the dog barks.
> With this there is a remote that you control. The idea is to give a
> verbal correction
You mean scold threaten and intimidate...
> followed by a tone.
MOORE scolding threatening and intimidating...
> If that does not work after you tone the dog once or twice
You mean, there's NO METHOD?
> you then have the option of giving it an stimulation
You mean a medical grade static like stimulation.
> from levels of 1 to 10 depending upon the dogs reaction.
Dogs GO INSANE from gettin shocked, spot.
> I initially bought it due to her flipping out over a neighbor shoveling
> snow.
You mean you got THE SAME PROBLEM.
> After she was spooked by this she thought that every time she went out
> she had to take barking fits regardless of the time of day or night.
She was AFRAID.
So you HURT her.
> Like yourself I don't want my neighbors pissed off at me
You're a VERY nice lady.
> and with our hours it's not unusual to take her out at 3 am.
Yeah...
> I found that in less than 2 days with a small amount of stimulation she
> learned what quiet ment.
That so?
> I also found that her prey drive is high and used the collar to break her
> of bunny chasing.
That so?
> The first time she got away from me before I knew what was going on. The
> next morning I was waiting for her and she barely got around the fence and
> to the back corner before I left her have it at level 10.
You could train your dog not to chase bunnys by PRAISING her.
> This may seem cruel to some people
Not to HOWER dog lovers...
> but if it means when I yell stop that she does
If you TRAINED her NOT TO DO THAT you WOULDN'T
NEED to SHOCK her when she doesn't stop when
you yell stop...
> it's worth that little bit she had to endure.
That so?
> Just yesterday she started down my drive way barking at the neighbor.
See?
> I yelled Lady stop and back she came.
You got LUCKY.
> She wasn't even wearing the collar.
BWEEEAAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!!
> I rarely put it on her now.
Right...
> Celeste
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAA!!!
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