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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 11:06 am
Post subject: how often do puppies need to poop? Archived from groups: rec>pets>dogs>activities, others (more info?)
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I have a young toy poodle who is about 14 weeks old. I wanted to know how
often he needs to go out to poop. I take him out to pee every hour but I
don't know which times he should also be pooping, certainly not every hour?
I try to take him out after he eats his food or gets treats but he has
access to his food all day long so its hard to know when he is or isn't
eating and how much he eats (so I know if its enough to make him go poopy).
Also, when its bedtime, I take him out around 2:30 am (after he has been cut
off from food for several hours) to do his business before bed (yes we stay
up late) he doesn't go poopy but he did at around midnight so I figure thats
ok. Then he wakes me at 4am to go out poopy. So, why does it seem that he
can only go 4 hours between poops when he doesn't eat anything at all in
between? Is this normal? How can I get him to go further in between? I
want him to be able to sleep at least 6 hours without needing to poop if
possible. Thanks for any info.
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Since: Aug 19, 2004 Posts: 2604
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:40 pm
Post subject: Re: how often do puppies need to poop? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: rec>pets>dogs>behavior, others (more info?)
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HOWEDY mauijnp,
"MauiJNP" <jmh1116.TakeThisOut@ptd.net> wrote in message
news:-h2cncZO96SQ-vzcUSdV9g@ptd.net...
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> I have a young toy poodle who is about 14 weeks old.
You was askin abHOWET diapers a couple days ago.
> I wanted to know how often he needs to go out to poop.
He needs to go first thing in the mornin
and last thing at nite and a few minutes
after eatin.
> I take him out to pee every hour
Well THAT'S HOWE COME you can't
HOWEsbreak your puppy.
> but I don't know which times he should
> also be pooping, certainly not every hour?
Right. You'll NEVER HOWEsbreak your
dog if you don't allHOWE him to DEVELOP
SELF CON-TROLL.
> I try to take him out after he eats his food or
> gets treats but he has access to his food all
> day long so its hard to know when he is or isn't
> eating and how much he eats (so I know if its
> enough to make him go poopy).
Don't WORRY abHOWET it. Free feeding
MEANS the dog develops his own schedule
arHOWEND your routines.
> Also, when its bedtime, I take him out around
> 2:30 am (after he has been cut off from food
> for several hours) to do his business before
> bed (yes we stay up late) he doesn't go poopy
> but he did at around midnight so I figure thats
> ok. Then he wakes me at 4am to go out poopy.
The PROBLEM is you take him HOWET
before he even knows he gotta go. He's
NEVER LEARNED to CONTRAIN hisself.
> So, why does it seem that he can only go
> 4 hours between poops when he doesn't
> eat anything at all in between?
On accHOWENT of you WALK HIM EVERY HOWER.
> Is this normal?
Yeah. It's NORMAL for the MENTAL CASES
who's own dogs take two years to HOWESbreak,
you're asking for advice.
> How can I get him to go further in between?
STOP WALKING HIM unless it's first thing
in the mornin or last thing at nite or when
HE ASKS to go HOWET.
> I want him to be able to sleep at least 6
> hours without needing to poop if possible.
It'll take a few days to TRAIN him to develop
his ability to contrain hisself.
> Thanks for any info.
You won't be gettin no advice from these
lying dog abusing punk thug cowards and
active long term incurable MENTAL CASES.
> Jenny
From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST
> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> >
> > Mike
>
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?
It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.
Works like a charm.
My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.
Sorry that slipped my mind.
I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.
Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.
Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.
Seemed he learned through osmosis.
Nice side benefit there.
It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.
I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.
I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.
I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.
Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry M Male" <larrymmale.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
To: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWizard.TakeThisOut@EarthLink.Net>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Cocker with ear infection
>
> Thanks Jerry,
>
>
> I enjoyed the scientific discussion debunking
> operant conditioning for teaching thinking animals.
> Humans think by forming concepts. All of their
> knowledge is held as a hierarchy of concepts
> (more complex concepts defined in terms of
> simpler ones). In my mind, to treat such a being
> as a B. F. Skinner robot is criminal.
>
> I don't believe that dogs hold their knowledge
> as concepts as do humans but their ability to
> think is unquestionable.
>
> Operant conditioning doesn't utilize an animal's
> ability to think. When you show a dog what you
> want them to do, then they are able to grasp the
> problem; they are able to think about it and to
> integrate possible solutions into their mind.
>
> But with operant conditioning a trainer is actually
> hiding the problem to be solved from the animal.
>
> For example, it is good for your dog's attention to
> be upon you. When heeling, he will notice your
> movements, your subtle hand signals, your facial
> expressions and he will immediately sense your
> next command. But the clicker trainers have forgotten
> the reasons why a dog's attention should be upon you.
>
> So they condition a dog to unnaturally cock his head
> to stare upward at you. The dog doesn't appreciate
> the meaning of this and neither does the trainer. Since
> this unnatural behavior is prized in the obedience ring,
> the clicker trainers are motivated to condition it.
>
> Don't you think that the "high five" hand shake that
> clicker trainers use to motivate novices looks like a
> Nazi salute (an unthinking reflex). It is not at all like
> a warm hand shake from a loving companion, is it?
>
> Some of your testimonials bring tears to my eyes. I
> love to see how some "thinking" people appreciate
> your methods.
>
> --Larry
>----- Original Message -----
> Subject: GREMLINS
>From: "Larry" To: "The Puppy Wizard"
><thepuppywizard.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net Sent:
> Friday, July 02, 2004
I live in an apartment complex that accepts dogs. I
have recommended your web site and your training
manual to quite a few pet owners. Unfortunately, it
seems to be human nature for them to not address
training until their dog's behavior problems become
serious.
Several people have seen me out working with Kit. They
cannot believe it when I am able to call a 7 week old
pup away from them. Those who have pups of their own
say that they are waiting until their pups are older
in order to begin traini ng.Itellthemtobeginnow.
But they don'tknowwhattodo.
Have you ever seen the movie "Gremlins"? The Mogwai
comes with three rules: 1) keep out of bright light,
2) keep away from water and 3) never feed after
midnight. Of course disaster befalls the new owners
because they don't take these rules seriously. When I
last watched this movie I thought to myself, how
similar it was to getting a new puppy. Just as does a
Mogwai, a puppy has a nature that demands proper
handling and just as it will with a cute little
Mogwai, mishandling will turn your cute little puppy
into a gremlin.
--Larry
Subject: PetsMart Puppy Playtime
Date: 2004-07-17 12:05:36 PST
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry"
To: "The Puppy Wizard" <thepuppywizard.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 2:48 PM
Subject: Kit rules PetsMart Puppy Playtime
Hello Jerry,
The experts say to take your puppy to puppy
classes to socialize them with other puppies.
Kit went to Puppy Playtime at PetsMart today.
I guess that I fail to see what Kit could learn
from those unruly puppies except perhaps
some bad behaviors.
Anyway he mostly lay there quietly and watched.
He wasn't' scared or apprehensive and he didn't
mind approaching other dogs if they seemed willing.
But it was a mad house-a beagle sounding off, a
boxer jumping on everyone, a bull dog pushing his
way around, a Great Dane tripping over everyone,
a little pug barking and poor little Kit getting trampled
because he was so much smaller than everyone else.
Once, he got a bit defensive and snarled and yipped
when this one bigger terrier kept picking on him
(scratching him hard).
Several people commented to me how calm Kit
seemed to be. They wondered if it were a breed
characteristic.
I told them that it was my training method, but
most of them seemed to just get that look in
their eye that says "Yea, yea".
But this one lady seemed interested so I referred
her to your web site. She had a rescued dog which
she held in her arms and it would snap at other
dogs when she gave them any attention.
She would immediately grab her little dog's muzzle
and squeeze it tightly. She finally confided in me
that it did the same to her husband and to her 25lb
cat.
I told her that it was going to get worse and
worse if she didn't address it immediately.
I know that carrying that dog around like she
does and tucking him tight under her arm
when another dog approaches is exasperating
her dog's behavior. I told her so. She said that
she would immediately go to doggydoright.com.
I hope she does.
--Larry
From: AIMEE (countrygirl0334@yahoo.com)
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST
I've been having a problem with my dog, Axel,
relieving himself in the house while I'm away
from home.
I've used TPW method's, and yesterday I was out
for 12 hours, and Axel didn't have one single "accident".
Today, I had hoped that the results would be just as
good - and they were (I was out for 11 hours).
The problem began when, as a puppy, Axel would
relieve himself in the house and I would point at the
mess and tell him "NO" or "Bad Dog".
That made him afraid to relieve himself in the house
or infront of me.
After I got TPW's training manual, I corrected my
mishandling of these instances.
When I came home to an "accident", I would simply
drop a can near the area and ask Axel "What's that?"
Then I would clean it up - with out showing him I was
the least bit upset about the mess, and when he looked
at the spot I would tell him "Good boy, you're a good dog".
This has been an ongoing problem, and thanks to the
Puppy Wizard, we've finally got it taken care of...
Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's methods
by alternating sounds and praising him while or before
he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's been going into
the room with the cat box and barking. That's because
he's thinking about getting into the box, but he knows he
shouldn't.
Thank you, Jerry, for all you help. You've been a
blessing to all of us.
AIMEE
===================
From: AIMEE (countrygirl0334@yahoo.com):
I own a black an tan coonhound. We got him
as a puppy, and due to constant mishandling
(pulling on his lead, negative corrections, and
the occasional use of a bark collar) I ended
up with a very anxious dog.
I couldn't leave him home alone, I couldn't
crate him, I couldn't even take my dog for
walks because he feared EVERYTHING.
I was going to have to get rid of him if things
didn't turn around.
My husband and I searched the internet for
answers - AND WE FOUND THE PUPPY WIZARD.
For all of you disbeliveers out there HIS METHODS WORK!
I've followed his manual, and we now have a
dog that can be left home alone, that heels
on command, that can go outside and NOT
be afraid of everything he sees.
Not only have his methods helped our dog, but
our marriage has gotten better. We had fallen
into a rut - constant bickering and tension, we
never laughed or had FUN together - but now,
with the same mindset used in THE PUPPY
WIZARDS dog training, our communications
channels have opened, and we now work
together instead of against one another.
For all the "Literalists" out there, NO WE DID
NOT TEACH EACH OTHER TO SIT, STAY,
OR HEEL.
We simply eliminated the nagging and the
acting out to get NEGATIVE attention from
one another since we weren't getting
the POSITIVE attention we wanted.
So, it's been proven - THE PUPPY WIZARDS
METHODS WORK.
It's up to you to accept them. Yes, there's alot
of blame that we have to accept, but once we
realize that we've caused these problems to
arise, we can strive to make things better.
AIMEE
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:28 pm
Post subject: Re: how often do puppies need to poop? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: rec>pets>dogs>activities, others (more info?)
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"MauiJNP" <jmh1116 RemoveThis @ptd.net> wrote in
news:-h2cncZO96SQ-vzcUSdV9g@ptd.net:
> I have a young toy poodle who is about 14 weeks old. I wanted to know
> how often he needs to go out to poop. I take him out to pee every
> hour but I don't know which times he should also be pooping, certainly
> not every hour?
I doubt it. When Moogli (shih tzu/min schnauzer mix) was that age, he was
pooping 3 or 4 times a day. Now that he is a little over 2 years old,
this is his pattern: In the morning, on his walk, he usually goes once.
In the evening, he usually goes twice.
> I try to take him out after he eats his food or gets
> treats but he has access to his food all day long so its hard to know
> when he is or isn't eating and how much he eats (so I know if its
> enough to make him go poopy).
We free feed as well, and he still goes twice a day. There is really no
difference between now (when he is loose all day) and before the summer
(when he was crated during the day) on when he eats. He usually snacks a
little bit in the morning after I put him in the bedroom and I leave for
work, and he eats a whole lot at night just after we go to sleep.
> Also, when its bedtime, I take him out
> around 2:30 am (after he has been cut off from food for several hours)
> to do his business before bed (yes we stay up late) he doesn't go
> poopy but he did at around midnight so I figure thats ok. Then he
> wakes me at 4am to go out poopy. So, why does it seem that he can
> only go 4 hours between poops when he doesn't eat anything at all in
> between? Is this normal? How can I get him to go further in
> between? I want him to be able to sleep at least 6 hours without
> needing to poop if possible. Thanks for any info.
I think right now, you are limited by his age. At 14 weeks, 4 hours is
pretty good. When animals sleep, their digestive processes slow down. For
your pup, right now it takes about 5 hours for the food to work its way
through. Give it a month or so, and he should be sleeping longer without
needing to go to the bathroom.
--
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