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Rhonda

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:25 am
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Hi everyone,

Sorry to blast back to the group with a problem, but I know where to
come for bunny experience!

Catnip is blind and probably 10-11 years old. In the last two weeks she
started losing the use of her rear legs. It would come and go but now
she cannot balance on them -- she just wobbles until she falls on her
side. She spends most of her time just laying, she can only rotate in a
circle using her front legs.

The vet did x-rays and blood tests and can't find anything obvious. She
has some bone spurs/arthritis and is now on pain meds, but it doesn't
make a huge difference. The vet thinks more is going on.

She has only nibbled food for the last several days and now is only
eating if we stick banana in front of her nose. She drank a little bit
tonight and we are giving sub-q fluids.

Tonight, she is having trouble with her front legs too. She almost seems
dizzy. Either that or more weak in general. She tries to sit up for a
minute and groom herself but starts swaying and falls.

Now I'm wondering if this could be E. Cuniculi. The vet says I can bring
her back in for a blood test but she has not had good luck treating it.
I know blood tests don't show active infections, only exposure during
their lifetime.

Here's the question, what is that possibility? The vet is very worried
Catnip has a tumor or something horrible that is undetected, given her
age. Should we drag her in for a blood test? I hate so much to give up
on her, but it's hard to see her like this and especially barely eating.
So far I have not force-fed her because I hate to do that to her with
her circumstances. If I knew this was temporary and she was younger and
had a good chance, that would be one thing. If this is nearing the end
for her, I'm hesitant to make it uncomfortable for her.

Guess I needed to talk too.

Any experience with what your bunnies went through for hind leg problems
or EC or anything similar would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Rhonda (little Bambi is being a wonderful nurse)

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:25 am
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On Nov 13, 2:48 am, Rhonda wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Sorry to blast back to the group with a problem, but I know where to
> come for bunny experience!
>
> Catnip is blind and probably 10-11 years old. In the last two weeks she
> started losing the use of her rear legs. It would come and go but now
> she cannot balance on them -- she just wobbles until she falls on her
> side. She spends most of her time just laying, she can only rotate in a
> circle using her front legs.
>
> The vet did x-rays and blood tests and can't find anything obvious. She
> has some bone spurs/arthritis and is now on pain meds, but it doesn't
> make a huge difference. The vet thinks more is going on.
>
> She has only nibbled food for the last several days and now is only
> eating if we stick banana in front of her nose. She drank a little bit
> tonight and we are giving sub-q fluids.
>
> Tonight, she is having trouble with her front legs too. She almost seems
> dizzy. Either that or more weak in general. She tries to sit up for a
> minute and groom herself but starts swaying and falls.
>
> Now I'm wondering if this could be E. Cuniculi. The vet says I can bring
> her back in for a blood test but she has not had good luck treating it.
> I know blood tests don't show active infections, only exposure during
> their lifetime.
>
> Here's the question, what is that possibility? The vet is very worried
> Catnip has a tumor or something horrible that is undetected, given her
> age. Should we drag her in for a blood test? I hate so much to give up
> on her, but it's hard to see her like this and especially barely eating.
> So far I have not force-fed her because I hate to do that to her with
> her circumstances. If I knew this was temporary and she was younger and
> had a good chance, that would be one thing. If this is nearing the end
> for her, I'm hesitant to make it uncomfortable for her.
>
> Guess I needed to talk too.
>
> Any experience with what your bunnies went through for hind leg problems
> or EC or anything similar would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rhonda (little Bambi is being a wonderful nurse)
you don't have to take blood test to give the med for ec. i would just
get her on panacur. it is cheap and easy to use . onece a day.
it really could be anything. amber gave out on use of his legs from
arthritus at ten years old. he started falling alot. he was completely
disssable the last couple years of his life.
does sound like it could be pain. i would get some glucossamine and
condroiton for now 250 mg. half a tab once a day. adequan is also
something you can consider. it is given in shots. amber was in alot of
pain alot. i treated him with natural stuff and in a few months he got
alot better. it is more than what i listed here. it is easy to do. i
also gave him hot butt baths. i bought a foot jacuzzi and put epsoms
slat in it and bathed him everday to ease the pain.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:44 am
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On Nov 13, 12:01 pm, Rhonda wrote:
> Hey Beth, thanks for the info.
>
> Where do you get panacur? Does it have to come from a vet?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rhonda
>
>
>
> wrote:
>
> > you don't have to take blood test to give the med for ec. i would just
> > get her on panacur. it is cheap and easy to use . onece a day.
> > it really could be anything. amber gave out on use of his legs from
> > arthritus at ten years old. he started falling alot. he was completely
> > disssable the last couple years of his life.
> > does sound like it could be pain. i would get some glucossamine and
> > condroiton for now  250 mg. half a tab once a day. adequan is also
> > something you can consider. it is given in shots. amber was in alot of
> > pain alot. i treated him with natural stuff and in a few months he got
> > alot better. it is more than what i listed here. it is easy to do. i
> > also gave him hot butt baths. i bought a foot jacuzzi and put epsoms
> > slat in  it and bathed him everday to ease the pain.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

yes. you vet should get yout he pancure. it is the best way to make
sure of the correct dose.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:27 pm
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Hey Beth, thanks for the info.

Where do you get panacur? Does it have to come from a vet?

Thanks!

Rhonda

wrote:
>
> you don't have to take blood test to give the med for ec. i would just
> get her on panacur. it is cheap and easy to use . onece a day.
> it really could be anything. amber gave out on use of his legs from
> arthritus at ten years old. he started falling alot. he was completely
> disssable the last couple years of his life.
> does sound like it could be pain. i would get some glucossamine and
> condroiton for now 250 mg. half a tab once a day. adequan is also
> something you can consider. it is given in shots. amber was in alot of
> pain alot. i treated him with natural stuff and in a few months he got
> alot better. it is more than what i listed here. it is easy to do. i
> also gave him hot butt baths. i bought a foot jacuzzi and put epsoms
> slat in it and bathed him everday to ease the pain.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:24 pm
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Rhonda,
I think the drug you've got Catnip on is a strong narcotic...they start with
torb...my brain cells fail me at the moment torbugesic, ahh, I found it
Butorphananol (Torbugesic, Torbutal, Stadol) they will slow down the gut all
together. I would advise against this. Tell the vet to try Rimadyl
instead...it is another NSAID that is easier on the gut. Not many rabbits
that I know of react to metacam with diarrhea, but the odd one might have
gut upset.
I would not use the narcotic drugs. They are usually used as a last resort
for very intense pain like post - op pain. It dopes them up. Please tell the
vet to reconsider.

Many vets don't have much experience with very old and disabled rabbits. If
you go to the disabled rabbits group, there are lots of experienced people
there...some with more knowledge at the medical end.

You said the vet saw spurs and arthritis - this was on the spine x-rays?
These things will cause the disability you are seeing now. Cocoa's spinal
x-rays also showed bone spurs...Ronie looked at them.

Visible signs of pain are: not wanting to move, lack of appetite or just
nibbling, tremors, increased respiration, tension in the body, frustration
behaviour like chewing, thrashing things, digging and being uncareful about
taking foods from your hand.
Cocoa would breath very fast and hold his body very tensely. The metacam
worked wonders for him, but other buns take the Rimadyl better.

Try to hand feed as much as possible. Preferably some soaking wet greens
like parsley, cilantro, also hay. Is she drinking well? If not, she may need
some fluid support.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:37 pm
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:48:05 GMT, Rhonda
wrote:

>Hi everyone,
>
>Sorry to blast back to the group with a problem, but I know where to
>come for bunny experience!
>
>Catnip is blind and probably 10-11 years old. In the last two weeks she
>started losing the use of her rear legs. It would come and go but now
>she cannot balance on them -- she just wobbles until she falls on her
>side. She spends most of her time just laying, she can only rotate in a
>circle using her front legs.

Sorry about Catnip Rhonda. I can't offer any advice, but mega vibes
coming your way for your special rexy girl! Please keep us updated.

Lisa, Hershey, Boo Boo, Louise & Sharkey (Thelma, Wendy & Cartman FTB)
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:40 pm
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On Nov 13, 1:48 am, Rhonda wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Sorry to blast back to the group with a problem, but I know where to
> come for bunny experience!
>
> Catnip is blind and probably 10-11 years old. In the last two weeks she
> started losing the use of her rear legs. It would come and go but now
> she cannot balance on them -- she just wobbles until she falls on her
> side. She spends most of her time just laying, she can only rotate in a
> circle using her front legs.
>
> The vet did x-rays and blood tests and can't find anything obvious. She
> has some bone spurs/arthritis and is now on pain meds, but it doesn't
> make a huge difference. The vet thinks more is going on.
>
> She has only nibbled food for the last several days and now is only
> eating if we stick banana in front of her nose. She drank a little bit
> tonight and we are giving sub-q fluids.
>
> Tonight, she is having trouble with her front legs too. She almost seems
> dizzy. Either that or more weak in general. She tries to sit up for a
> minute and groom herself but starts swaying and falls.
>
> Now I'm wondering if this could be E. Cuniculi. The vet says I can bring
> her back in for a blood test but she has not had good luck treating it.
> I know blood tests don't show active infections, only exposure during
> their lifetime.
>
> Here's the question, what is that possibility? The vet is very worried
> Catnip has a tumor or something horrible that is undetected, given her
> age. Should we drag her in for a blood test? I hate so much to give up
> on her, but it's hard to see her like this and especially barely eating.
> So far I have not force-fed her because I hate to do that to her with
> her circumstances. If I knew this was temporary and she was younger and
> had a good chance, that would be one thing. If this is nearing the end
> for her, I'm hesitant to make it uncomfortable for her.
>
> Guess I needed to talk too.
>
> Any experience with what your bunnies went through for hind leg problems
> or EC or anything similar would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rhonda (little Bambi is being a wonderful nurse)

I can't help with the medical side of things, but I am wishing her
good vibes that this can be treated with medicine and nothing drastic
to put her in discomfort or harm's way.Sending positive vibes for
Catnip. Carla Liza and Jodie.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:25 am
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Thanks everyone for the info and the good wishes!

We are still carrying on here. Catnip had a pretty good day yesterday
(ate more veggies) but today is not as good. She just acts so sleepy.
She lays flat out and almost falls asleep chewing. I don't know if
something else is going on with her other than back pain.

We're going to give her fluids tonight. We didn't last night because we
thought she ate quite a few veggies.

Cross your fingers, and thanks for the good thoughts.

Rhonda
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:01 am
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Good luck. Things will go well.

Professor, The Jump, Zolo, Wizard, & Magic Brenda



Rhonda wrote:

> Thanks everyone for the info and the good wishes!
>
> We are still carrying on here. Catnip had a pretty good day yesterday
> (ate more veggies) but today is not as good. She just acts so sleepy.
> She lays flat out and almost falls asleep chewing. I don't know if
> something else is going on with her other than back pain.
>
> We're going to give her fluids tonight. We didn't last night because
> we thought she ate quite a few veggies.
>
> Cross your fingers, and thanks for the good thoughts.
>
> Rhonda
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:04 am
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Keep the fluids up daily Rhonda...no matter if she seems better or not. I'm
thinking some kidney/liver failure may be going on there. Fluids help with
those. I would just give them daily as a matter of course. She does sound
like she's in a hospice situation...without blood tests, it's hard to know.
Did you check the colour of her eyes under her eyelids?

Keep her comfortable and spend lots of time with her. Sorry I don't have
more help to offer.

--
God Bless,
Arlette, Cocoa & Brownie in heaven (See us here)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11393346@N02/
Need a vet? Click here <http://www.rabbitvet.net>
For Cocoa's body sling vids Click here
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A righteous man has regard for the life of his animal,
But even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:08 am
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Just poking my nose in here -- way behind with no chance of catching up, but
when an "old-timer" posts, it catches my eye.

Has there been an update?

Hang in there, Rhonda.

Michele and Christopher Rabbit
plus Todd, of course


"Rhonda" wrote in message

> Hi everyone,
>
> Sorry to blast back to the group with a problem, but I know where to come
> for bunny experience!
>
> Catnip is blind and probably 10-11 years old. In the last two weeks she
> started losing the use of her rear legs. It would come and go but now she
> cannot balance on them -- she just wobbles until she falls on her side.
> She spends most of her time just laying, she can only rotate in a circle
> using her front legs.
>
> The vet did x-rays and blood tests and can't find anything obvious. She
> has some bone spurs/arthritis and is now on pain meds, but it doesn't make
> a huge difference. The vet thinks more is going on.
>
> She has only nibbled food for the last several days and now is only eating
> if we stick banana in front of her nose. She drank a little bit tonight
> and we are giving sub-q fluids.
>
> Tonight, she is having trouble with her front legs too. She almost seems
> dizzy. Either that or more weak in general. She tries to sit up for a
> minute and groom herself but starts swaying and falls.
>
> Now I'm wondering if this could be E. Cuniculi. The vet says I can bring
> her back in for a blood test but she has not had good luck treating it. I
> know blood tests don't show active infections, only exposure during their
> lifetime.
>
> Here's the question, what is that possibility? The vet is very worried
> Catnip has a tumor or something horrible that is undetected, given her
> age. Should we drag her in for a blood test? I hate so much to give up on
> her, but it's hard to see her like this and especially barely eating. So
> far I have not force-fed her because I hate to do that to her with her
> circumstances. If I knew this was temporary and she was younger and had a
> good chance, that would be one thing. If this is nearing the end for her,
> I'm hesitant to make it uncomfortable for her.
>
> Guess I needed to talk too.
>
> Any experience with what your bunnies went through for hind leg problems
> or EC or anything similar would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rhonda (little Bambi is being a wonderful nurse)
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:39 am
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HiHi, Rhonda

This is Petrina.
It may due to EC, arthritus, nerves problem, kidney problem, since
kidney may influence her nerves to the legs as well.
This is what vet told me.
If she is dizzy and turning around, she may be weak or brain problem
as well.

Mui's legs problem, i helped her with accupunture for more than 6
months, once in 2 weeks from a vet in hk.
It helped her. With pain killer as well.
She was better than.If it is kidney problem,
pls ask your vet about which pain killer is more mild which won't
affect her kidney.
I have heard that Matacam may not be suitable. And she needs more
fluid as well.

Massage her legs are needed, coz dun wanna see any contraction of the
muscle.
Keep it up.

Petrina



On 11¤ë24¤é, ¤U¤È6®É08¤À, "Michele S" wrote:
> Just poking my nose in here -- way behind with no chance of catching up, but
> when an "old-timer" posts, it catches my eye.
>
> Has there been an update?
>
> Hang in there, Rhonda.
>
> Michele and Christopher Rabbit
> plus Todd, of course
>
> "Rhonda" wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi everyone,
>
> > Sorry to blast back to the group with a problem, but I know where to come
> > for bunny experience!
>
> > Catnip is blind and probably 10-11 years old. In the last two weeks she
> > started losing the use of her rear legs. It would come and go but now she
> > cannot balance on them -- she just wobbles until she falls on her side.
> > She spends most of her time just laying, she can only rotate in a circle
> > using her front legs.
>
> > The vet did x-rays and blood tests and can't find anything obvious. She
> > has some bone spurs/arthritis and is now on pain meds, but it doesn't make
> > a huge difference. The vet thinks more is going on.
>
> > She has only nibbled food for the last several days and now is only eating
> > if we stick banana in front of her nose. She drank a little bit tonight
> > and we are giving sub-q fluids.
>
> > Tonight, she is having trouble with her front legs too. She almost seems
> > dizzy. Either that or more weak in general. She tries to sit up for a
> > minute and groom herself but starts swaying and falls.
>
> > Now I'm wondering if this could be E. Cuniculi. The vet says I can bring
> > her back in for a blood test but she has not had good luck treating it. I
> > know blood tests don't show active infections, only exposure during their
> > lifetime.
>
> > Here's the question, what is that possibility? The vet is very worried
> > Catnip has a tumor or something horrible that is undetected, given her
> > age. Should we drag her in for a blood test? I hate so much to give up on
> > her, but it's hard to see her like this and especially barely eating. So
> > far I have not force-fed her because I hate to do that to her with her
> > circumstances. If I knew this was temporary and she was younger and had a
> > good chance, that would be one thing. If this is nearing the end for her,
> > I'm hesitant to make it uncomfortable for her.
>
> > Guess I needed to talk too.
>
> > Any experience with what your bunnies went through for hind leg problems
> > or EC or anything similar would be appreciated.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Rhonda (little Bambi is being a wonderful nurse)- ÁôÂóQ¤Þ¥Î¤å¦r -
>
> - Åã¥Ü³Q¤Þ¥Î¤å¦r -
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:43 pm
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On Nov 13, 1:48 am, Rhonda wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Sorry to blast back to the group with a problem, but I know where to
> come for bunny experience!
>
> Catnip is blind and probably 10-11 years old. In the last two weeks she
> started losing the use of her rear legs. It would come and go but now
> she cannot balance on them -- she just wobbles until she falls on her
> side. She spends most of her time just laying, she can only rotate in a
> circle using her front legs.
>
> The vet did x-rays and blood tests and can't find anything obvious. She
> has some bone spurs/arthritis and is now on pain meds, but it doesn't
> make a huge difference. The vet thinks more is going on.
>
> She has only nibbled food for the last several days and now is only
> eating if we stick banana in front of her nose. She drank a little bit
> tonight and we are giving sub-q fluids.
>
> Tonight, she is having trouble with her front legs too. She almost seems
> dizzy. Either that or more weak in general. She tries to sit up for a
> minute and groom herself but starts swaying and falls.
>
> Now I'm wondering if this could be E. Cuniculi. The vet says I can bring
> her back in for a blood test but she has not had good luck treating it.
> I know blood tests don't show active infections, only exposure during
> their lifetime.
>
> Here's the question, what is that possibility? The vet is very worried
> Catnip has a tumor or something horrible that is undetected, given her
> age. Should we drag her in for a blood test? I hate so much to give up
> on her, but it's hard to see her like this and especially barely eating.
> So far I have not force-fed her because I hate to do that to her with
> her circumstances. If I knew this was temporary and she was younger and
> had a good chance, that would be one thing. If this is nearing the end
> for her, I'm hesitant to make it uncomfortable for her.
>
> Guess I needed to talk too.
>
> Any experience with what your bunnies went through for hind leg problems
> or EC or anything similar would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rhonda (little Bambi is being a wonderful nurse)

Hello Rhonda, how is Catnip doing now? Concerned and caring and
sending vibes still. Carla Liza and Jodie.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:25 am
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This morning, Catnip left for the bridge. OMG, she fought so hard. At
4am I heard strange noises and it was her, fighting to stay with us. Her
struggle broke my heart into a million pieces. Walter was able to get a
shot of pain killer into her and she left us within a half hour. I hope
she didn't suffer for too long.

The last couple of weeks I would think Catnip was at the end and then
she would eat something with gusto. She never quite ate enough and would
not swallow when I gave her Critical Care. We just kept trying new
veggies until something interested her. She also got fluids. I kept
hoping to turn a corner.

She was so tired though, and gave up trying to move at all. She slept
almost all of the time. At least she is free now.

Thanks everyone, for caring.

Rhonda (and Nurse Bambi, who is eating but spent most of the day sulking)


wrote:
> On Nov 13, 2:48 am, Rhonda wrote:
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>Sorry to blast back to the group with a problem, but I know where to
>>come for bunny experience!
>>
>>Catnip is blind and probably 10-11 years old. In the last two weeks she
>>started losing the use of her rear legs. It would come and go but now
>>she cannot balance on them -- she just wobbles until she falls on her
>>side. She spends most of her time just laying, she can only rotate in a
>>circle using her front legs.
>>
>>The vet did x-rays and blood tests and can't find anything obvious. She
>>has some bone spurs/arthritis and is now on pain meds, but it doesn't
>>make a huge difference. The vet thinks more is going on.
>>
>>She has only nibbled food for the last several days and now is only
>>eating if we stick banana in front of her nose. She drank a little bit
>>tonight and we are giving sub-q fluids.
>>
>>Tonight, she is having trouble with her front legs too. She almost seems
>>dizzy. Either that or more weak in general. She tries to sit up for a
>>minute and groom herself but starts swaying and falls.
>>
>>Now I'm wondering if this could be E. Cuniculi. The vet says I can bring
>>her back in for a blood test but she has not had good luck treating it.
>>I know blood tests don't show active infections, only exposure during
>>their lifetime.
>>
>>Here's the question, what is that possibility? The vet is very worried
>>Catnip has a tumor or something horrible that is undetected, given her
>>age. Should we drag her in for a blood test? I hate so much to give up
>>on her, but it's hard to see her like this and especially barely eating.
>>So far I have not force-fed her because I hate to do that to her with
>>her circumstances. If I knew this was temporary and she was younger and
>>had a good chance, that would be one thing. If this is nearing the end
>>for her, I'm hesitant to make it uncomfortable for her.
>>
>>Guess I needed to talk too.
>>
>>Any experience with what your bunnies went through for hind leg problems
>>or EC or anything similar would be appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Rhonda (little Bambi is being a wonderful nurse)
>
> you don't have to take blood test to give the med for ec. i would just
> get her on panacur. it is cheap and easy to use . onece a day.
> it really could be anything. amber gave out on use of his legs from
> arthritus at ten years old. he started falling alot. he was completely
> disssable the last couple years of his life.
> does sound like it could be pain. i would get some glucossamine and
> condroiton for now 250 mg. half a tab once a day. adequan is also
> something you can consider. it is given in shots. amber was in alot of
> pain alot. i treated him with natural stuff and in a few months he got
> alot better. it is more than what i listed here. it is easy to do. i
> also gave him hot butt baths. i bought a foot jacuzzi and put epsoms
> slat in it and bathed him everday to ease the pain.
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God bless you and, God keep your little friend.
We all love you very much.
We're sending as much love and comfort as we can.

Professor, The Jump, Zolo, Wizard, & Magic Brenda



Rhonda wrote:

> This morning, Catnip left for the bridge. OMG, she fought so hard. At
> 4am I heard strange noises and it was her, fighting to stay with us.
> Her struggle broke my heart into a million pieces. Walter was able to
> get a shot of pain killer into her and she left us within a half hour.
> I hope she didn't suffer for too long.
>
> The last couple of weeks I would think Catnip was at the end and then
> she would eat something with gusto. She never quite ate enough and
> would not swallow when I gave her Critical Care. We just kept trying
> new veggies until something interested her. She also got fluids. I
> kept hoping to turn a corner.
>
> She was so tired though, and gave up trying to move at all. She slept
> almost all of the time. At least she is free now.
>
> Thanks everyone, for caring.
>
> Rhonda (and Nurse Bambi, who is eating but spent most of the day sulking)
>
>
> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 13, 2:48 am, Rhonda wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Sorry to blast back to the group with a problem, but I know where to
>>> come for bunny experience!
>>>
>>> Catnip is blind and probably 10-11 years old. In the last two weeks she
>>> started losing the use of her rear legs. It would come and go but now
>>> she cannot balance on them -- she just wobbles until she falls on her
>>> side. She spends most of her time just laying, she can only rotate in a
>>> circle using her front legs.
>>>
>>> The vet did x-rays and blood tests and can't find anything obvious. She
>>> has some bone spurs/arthritis and is now on pain meds, but it doesn't
>>> make a huge difference. The vet thinks more is going on.
>>>
>>> She has only nibbled food for the last several days and now is only
>>> eating if we stick banana in front of her nose. She drank a little bit
>>> tonight and we are giving sub-q fluids.
>>>
>>> Tonight, she is having trouble with her front legs too. She almost
>>> seems
>>> dizzy. Either that or more weak in general. She tries to sit up for a
>>> minute and groom herself but starts swaying and falls.
>>>
>>> Now I'm wondering if this could be E. Cuniculi. The vet says I can
>>> bring
>>> her back in for a blood test but she has not had good luck treating it.
>>> I know blood tests don't show active infections, only exposure during
>>> their lifetime.
>>>
>>> Here's the question, what is that possibility? The vet is very worried
>>> Catnip has a tumor or something horrible that is undetected, given her
>>> age. Should we drag her in for a blood test? I hate so much to give up
>>> on her, but it's hard to see her like this and especially barely
>>> eating.
>>> So far I have not force-fed her because I hate to do that to her with
>>> her circumstances. If I knew this was temporary and she was younger and
>>> had a good chance, that would be one thing. If this is nearing the end
>>> for her, I'm hesitant to make it uncomfortable for her.
>>>
>>> Guess I needed to talk too.
>>>
>>> Any experience with what your bunnies went through for hind leg
>>> problems
>>> or EC or anything similar would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Rhonda (little Bambi is being a wonderful nurse)
>>
>>
>> you don't have to take blood test to give the med for ec. i would just
>> get her on panacur. it is cheap and easy to use . onece a day.
>> it really could be anything. amber gave out on use of his legs from
>> arthritus at ten years old. he started falling alot. he was completely
>> disssable the last couple years of his life.
>> does sound like it could be pain. i would get some glucossamine and
>> condroiton for now 250 mg. half a tab once a day. adequan is also
>> something you can consider. it is given in shots. amber was in alot of
>> pain alot. i treated him with natural stuff and in a few months he got
>> alot better. it is more than what i listed here. it is easy to do. i
>> also gave him hot butt baths. i bought a foot jacuzzi and put epsoms
>> slat in it and bathed him everday to ease the pain.
>
>
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