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RPSinha

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:49 am
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Most of you probably have an opinion on this issue and I'd be grateful
if you'd kindly share it:

What is the best nutrition/cost value in *canned* cat foods?

(The diner can decide the issue herself)

This is for a ~one year old female. She can decide the taste and
texture issues herself; we only have to figure out the nutrition/cost
ratio.

I have read a lot about cat nutrition: more fat & protein, less carb,
no wheat gluten, minimum mercury, not too much Ph, not too much beef,
not too much seafood, etc. But I am finding it difficult to translate
all this into brand decisions.

Everything else being equal, I'd prefer 5.5 oz cans. But if a 3oz only
company (eg, Fancy Feast) makes most sense, then so be it.

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Rene S.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:24 am
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> I have read a lot about cat nutrition: more fat & protein, less carb,
> no wheat gluten, minimum mercury, not too much Ph, not too much beef,
> not too much seafood, etc. But I am finding it difficult to translate
> all this into brand decisions.
>
> Everything else being equal, I'd prefer 5.5 oz cans. But if a 3oz only
> company (eg, Fancy Feast) makes most sense, then so be it.

You're going to find several opinions on this group. I fed the canned,
grain-free varieties of Wellness and felt the quality for the money
was excellent. The price can vary so *call around* and ask. Some
stores give discounts by the case, others have a punch card for % off
a future sale, but you won't know unless you ask. You can find a store
locator on their site: http://www.omhpet.com

Their food is made with human-grade ingredients, but make sure to buy
the *grain free* varieties (it says so on the label).

There are lots of other high-quality foods out there; this is only one
example. My general opinion is that price should not be a large
factor. You might spend a little more on food but less on vet bills in
the long run. The most important thing is to feed a high-quality NOT
dry diet.

Rene

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:13 am
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On Oct 17, 9:24 am, "Rene S." <rschweit....TakeThisOut@kalmbach.com> wrote:
> > I have read a lot about cat nutrition: more fat & protein, less carb,
> > no wheat gluten, minimum mercury, not too much Ph, not too much beef,
> > not too much seafood, etc. But I am finding it difficult to translate
> > all this into brand decisions.
>
> > Everything else being equal, I'd prefer 5.5 oz cans. But if a 3oz only
> > company (eg, Fancy Feast) makes most sense, then so be it.
>
> You're going to find several opinions on this group. I fed the canned,
> grain-free varieties of Wellness and felt the quality for the money
> was excellent. The price can vary so *call around* and ask. Some
> stores give discounts by the case, others have a punch card for % off
> a future sale, but you won't know unless you ask. You can find a store
> locator on their site:http://www.omhpet.com
>
> Their food is made with human-grade ingredients, but make sure to buy
> the *grain free* varieties (it says so on the label).
>
> There are lots of other high-quality foods out there; this is only one
> example. My general opinion is that price should not be a large
> factor. You might spend a little more on food but less on vet bills in
> the long run. The most important thing is to feed a high-quality NOT
> dry diet.
>
> Rene

chicken drumsticks or thighs chopped up with a sharp knife; occasional
chicken hearts.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:32 am
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With 7 cats and a fixed income, fancy feast is not my preferred choice. But,
to each his own.
"RPSinha" <rpsinha.DeleteThis@null.void> wrote in message
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> Most of you probably have an opinion on this issue and I'd be grateful
> if you'd kindly share it:
>
> What is the best nutrition/cost value in *canned* cat foods?
>
> (The diner can decide the issue herself)
>
> This is for a ~one year old female. She can decide the taste and
> texture issues herself; we only have to figure out the nutrition/cost
> ratio.
>
> I have read a lot about cat nutrition: more fat & protein, less carb,
> no wheat gluten, minimum mercury, not too much Ph, not too much beef,
> not too much seafood, etc. But I am finding it difficult to translate
> all this into brand decisions.
>
> Everything else being equal, I'd prefer 5.5 oz cans. But if a 3oz only
> company (eg, Fancy Feast) makes most sense, then so be it.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:56 am
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"RPSinha" <rpsinha DeleteThis @null.void> wrote in message
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> Most of you probably have an opinion on this issue and I'd be grateful
> if you'd kindly share it:
>
> What is the best nutrition/cost value in *canned* cat foods?
>
> (The diner can decide the issue herself)
>
> This is for a ~one year old female. She can decide the taste and
> texture issues herself; we only have to figure out the nutrition/cost
> ratio.
>
> I have read a lot about cat nutrition: more fat & protein, less carb,
> no wheat gluten, minimum mercury, not too much Ph, not too much beef,
> not too much seafood, etc. But I am finding it difficult to translate
> all this into brand decisions.
>
> Everything else being equal, I'd prefer 5.5 oz cans. But if a 3oz only
> company (eg, Fancy Feast) makes most sense, then so be it.

In the case of my cats, no matter what brand I buy, the cats are going to
get tired of it pretty soon. So, I "mix it up", and buy different brands in
different stores every week or two, just so the cats will stay
interested.....I probably don't get the best nutrition/cost ratio by doing
this, but my cats aren't starving, and they do like to eat......
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:43 am
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In article <1192630402.669279.133550 DeleteThis @k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
honeybunch <doro_iams DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

: chicken drumsticks or thighs chopped up with a sharp knife; occasional
: chicken hearts.

Yes I have thought about it, but feel afraid this won't be a complete
meal. I wish there was an inexpensive gravy to convert simple meat into
complete cat food but I am not ware of any.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:47 am
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Barb <bpolans.TakeThisOut@horizonview.net> wrote:

: With 7 cats and a fixed income, fancy feast is not my preferred choice. But,
: to each his own.

So, what is your recommendation for the best value? That's what I came
here for.

I am not a FF fan. That was just a rhetorical statement meaning I know
it is outrageous but I will do anything you folks tell me I have to.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:29 pm
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"RPSinha" <rpsinha RemoveThis @null.void> wrote in message
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> Most of you probably have an opinion on this issue and I'd be grateful
> if you'd kindly share it:
>
> What is the best nutrition/cost value in *canned* cat foods?
>
> (The diner can decide the issue herself)
>
> This is for a ~one year old female. She can decide the taste and
> texture issues herself; we only have to figure out the nutrition/cost
> ratio.
>
> I have read a lot about cat nutrition: more fat & protein, less carb,
> no wheat gluten, minimum mercury, not too much Ph, not too much beef,
> not too much seafood, etc. But I am finding it difficult to translate
> all this into brand decisions.
>
> Everything else being equal, I'd prefer 5.5 oz cans. But if a 3oz only
> company (eg, Fancy Feast) makes most sense, then so be it.

My five get canned Fancy Feast "pate" varieties for their two meals a day
and can free feed on Science Diet Advanced Formula (Mature Adult for the
adult cats and Kitten Formula for the kittens) dry left out all the time
(but the bowls are washed and they're given fresh once a day) in case they
get the munchies. One thing to remember about giving them a quality food is
that they'll eat *less* of it because it meets their nutritional needs
better (this also translates into less deposited in the litter boxes - and
added benefit for the cat's slave). My neighbor, who feeds her cat "Meow
Mix" uses three times the amount I use - so the end costs are about the
same.

Hugs,

CatNipped
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:34 pm
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On Oct 17, 10:43 am, RPSinha <rpsi....DeleteThis@null.void> wrote:
> In article <1192630402.669279.133....DeleteThis@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> honeybunch <doro_i....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> : chicken drumsticks or thighs chopped up with a sharp knife; occasional
> : chicken hearts.
>
> Yes I have thought about it, but feel afraid this won't be a complete
> meal. I wish there was an inexpensive gravy to convert simple meat into
> complete cat food but I am not ware of any.

There is some great (and detailed) information here on making your own
raw food:
http://www.catinfo.org/makingcatfood.htm
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:20 pm
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On Oct 17, 4:34 pm, "Rene S." <rschweit....RemoveThis@kalmbach.com> wrote:
> On Oct 17, 10:43 am, RPSinha <rpsi....RemoveThis@null.void> wrote:
>
> > In article <1192630402.669279.133....RemoveThis@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > honeybunch <doro_i....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > : chicken drumsticks or thighs chopped up with a sharp knife; occasional
> > : chicken hearts.
>
> > Yes I have thought about it, but feel afraid this won't be a complete
> > meal. I wish there was an inexpensive gravy to convert simple meat into
> > complete cat food but I am not ware of any.
>
> There is some great (and detailed) information here on making your own
> raw food:http://www.catinfo.org/makingcatfood.htm

The reason Ive been feeding Beebe a raw diet is because he really
doesnt like canned cat food. I always have to throw part of it out
every morning. Of course, he loves and adores dry cat food. It must
taste like a big Mac and french fries to him but it is really not good
for his peepee. He loves chicken, chicken hearts and beef if its cut
into tiny cubes. Trader Joes has frozen boneless skinless chicken
thighs which are the easiest thing in the world to cut up. When I buy
the drumsticks i hack off a bit of the knuckle ending and include it
much to his satisfaction. A farmers market sells chicken hearts for
$1 a pound. He used to be a feral cat but now he is sleek and shiny
and seems to be thriving on a raw diet. I dont know if it would work
for all cats..
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:32 pm
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I didnt mean to sound abrupt or disinterested.
I feed my cats Friskies or Nine Lives. They only get one can total a day
mixed in with a cup or so of dry food. Then I divvy it among the 7. They eat
dry food throughout the day.
"RPSinha" <rpsinha RemoveThis @null.void> wrote in message
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> Barb <bpolans RemoveThis @horizonview.net> wrote:
>
> : With 7 cats and a fixed income, fancy feast is not my preferred choice.
> But,
> : to each his own.
>
> So, what is your recommendation for the best value? That's what I came
> here for.
>
> I am not a FF fan. That was just a rhetorical statement meaning I know
> it is outrageous but I will do anything you folks tell me I have to.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:32 pm
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Barb <bpolans.TakeThisOut@horizonview.net> wrote:
: I didnt mean to sound abrupt or disinterested.

You didn't. I am just eager to learn to learn what I can ASAP, that's
all.

: I feed my cats Friskies or Nine Lives. They only get one can total a day
: mixed in with a cup or so of dry food. Then I divvy it among the 7. They eat
: dry food throughout the day.

OK, so you mix one 1 cup dry food into 1 can of Friskies, divide it up
among 7 cats? I would assume that the portion is more like an appetizer
for them. Nice one too. Then they eat dry as much as they want.

Friskies is one brand I am interested in because their prices seem very
reasonable (<35 c).

However, they too have so many varieties. Is one better nutrition than
others? I gave a Prime Filets to my cat and she liked it. Actually so
far she is not fussy, hope she remains that way.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:54 pm
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honeybunch <doro_iams DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

: The reason Ive been feeding Beebe a raw diet is because he really
: doesnt like canned cat food. I always have to throw part of it out
: every morning. Of course, he loves and adores dry cat food. It must
: taste like a big Mac and french fries to him but it is really not good
: for his peepee. He loves chicken, chicken hearts and beef if its cut
: into tiny cubes. Trader Joes has frozen boneless skinless chicken
: thighs which are the easiest thing in the world to cut up. When I buy
: the drumsticks i hack off a bit of the knuckle ending and include it
: much to his satisfaction. A farmers market sells chicken hearts for
: $1 a pound. He used to be a feral cat but now he is sleek and shiny
: and seems to be thriving on a raw diet. I dont know if it would work
: for all cats..

I would be most concerned. I don't know cat food brands, but I have
reasonable scientific grounding. In nature they eat most of the prey,
and of course various preys. Which is different from just one part like
leg muscle of one animal. Is he getting all his nutrients? Taurine etc?
You don't want to find out when it is too late. If I ate nothing but
drumsticks I might also get malnourished. I would certainly consider a
few supplements.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:57 pm
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William Graham <weg9.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:

: In the case of my cats, no matter what brand I buy, the cats are going to
: get tired of it pretty soon. So, I "mix it up", and buy different brands in
: different stores every week or two, just so the cats will stay
: interested.....I probably don't get the best nutrition/cost ratio by doing
: this, but my cats aren't starving, and they do like to eat......

This approach would work great, I can even imagine buying whatever is
on sale. :-) However, I have heard this leads to "personality issues"
or throwing.

I wonder if anyone else has experience with this approach, just "mixing
up" the food.

Do you feed the same kind for 1-2 weeks however?

Thanks.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:02 pm
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CatNipped <CatNipped.RemoveThis@PossiblePlaces.com> wrote:

: My five get canned Fancy Feast "pate" varieties for their two meals a day
: and can free feed on Science Diet Advanced Formula (Mature Adult for the
: adult cats and Kitten Formula for the kittens) dry left out all the time...

Is FF based on their taste preference or you chose it for nutrition?
Did you compare it with Iams, Nutro, Pro Plan, Science Diet canned,
etc., and also cheaper brands like Friskies and Whiskas?

As I wrote earlier, I would feed them FF if it is the best, but if all
else was equal I would prefer something that came in 5-6 oz cans.
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