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Worried

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:00 pm
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My 15 year old Pekingese suffered a stroke this morning and has no
control of his back legs. He just sits up and is able to move about
from one place to the other but scooting around with his front paws. A
visit to the Vet is scheduled for tomorrow but I am wondering if any
other owners went through this and how did they cope.

I've seen pictures of a skateboard or something with wheels to help the
dog get around. Does anyone have a drawing or plans so I can put one
together?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:17 am
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Worried <Worried@.> wrote in message news:<ts9ivv88mdael26qsqb75tfh0tbkk71lvb RemoveThis @4ax.com>...
> My 15 year old Pekingese suffered a stroke this morning and has no
> control of his back legs. He just sits up and is able to move about
> from one place to the other but scooting around with his front paws. A
> visit to the Vet is scheduled for tomorrow but I am wondering if any
> other owners went through this and how did they cope.
>
> I've seen pictures of a skateboard or something with wheels to help the
> dog get around. Does anyone have a drawing or plans so I can put one
> together?

Dear Worried, do not panic!
He does not need physical activities right now.
Use in the meantime supporting leash on his hindquarters.

For bitches I used wide belt around her waist.
for him you probably need to make two loops under each hip or use
some commercial supporting devices.
That would make him easier to eliminate (BTW is he able to control it?).
If he able and does not feel pain let's pray he will recover.

Wait what vet says.
Anyway, I do not think you should opt for special baggy/skateboard
device for aged small dog.
Bad thing is strokes might go one after another.
My active and fit 14-years-old Airdale bitch suffered three srtokes
in half a year.3rd stroke turned her into vegetable and we put her
to sleep finally.

I am so sorry for you dog.

Nick(Chicha)

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:49 am
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Worried <Worried@.> wrote in news:ts9ivv88mdael26qsqb75tfh0tbkk71lvb@
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>
> My 15 year old Pekingese suffered a stroke this morning and has no
> control of his back legs. He just sits up and is able to move about
> from one place to the other but scooting around with his front paws. A
> visit to the Vet is scheduled for tomorrow but I am wondering if any
> other owners went through this and how did they cope.
>
> I've seen pictures of a skateboard or something with wheels to help the
> dog get around. Does anyone have a drawing or plans so I can put one
> together?
>
>

I do not mean any disrespect or to be mean. I had a similar situation with
one of my dogs years ago (she was aprox 15 years old).
She suffered a stroke. The vet tried a couple different kinds of meds, but
it didn't really help.

The dog was ultimately put to sleep, which was a hard decision, but was
best for her situation.

See what the vet says, but be prepared for the worse, and keep in mind
it is our duty as a dog owner to make decisions that are in the best
interest of our dog.

Good luck to your pooch.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:49 am
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Loser1 wrote:

>Worried <Worried@.> wrote in news:ts9ivv88mdael26qsqb75tfh0tbkk71lvb@
>4ax.com:
>
>>
>> My 15 year old Pekingese suffered a stroke this morning and has no
>> control of his back legs. He just sits up and is able to move about
>> from one place to the other but scooting around with his front paws. A
>> visit to the Vet is scheduled for tomorrow but I am wondering if any
>> other owners went through this and how did they cope.
>>
>> I've seen pictures of a skateboard or something with wheels to help the
>> dog get around. Does anyone have a drawing or plans so I can put one
>> together?
>>
>>
>
>I do not mean any disrespect or to be mean. I had a similar situation with
>one of my dogs years ago (she was aprox 15 years old).
>She suffered a stroke. The vet tried a couple different kinds of meds, but
>it didn't really help.
>
>The dog was ultimately put to sleep, which was a hard decision, but was
>best for her situation.
>
>See what the vet says, but be prepared for the worse, and keep in mind
>it is our duty as a dog owner to make decisions that are in the best
>interest of our dog.
>
>Good luck to your pooch.

I understand that age is a inevitable fact but his mind is still alert
and responsive...

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:14 am
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"Worried" <Worried@.> wrote in message
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> My 15 year old Pekingese suffered a stroke this morning and has no
> control of his back legs. He just sits up and is able to move about
> from one place to the other but scooting around with his front paws. A
> visit to the Vet is scheduled for tomorrow but I am wondering if any
> other owners went through this and how did they cope.

..............Try acupuncture. I saw a dog at a veterinary acupuncturist who
had had a stroke and recovered. I honestly don't know if he had lost the
function of his back legs to begin with, but it's worth a try.

Good luck you to and your oldster
buglady
take out the dog before replying
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 7:01 pm
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You can find a vet that performs acupuncture at the website www.altvetmed.com

Laura
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:36 pm
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Chicha wrote:

>Worried <Worried@.> wrote in message news:<ts9ivv88mdael26qsqb75tfh0tbkk71lvb.DeleteThis@4ax.com>...
>> My 15 year old Pekingese suffered a stroke this morning and has no
>> control of his back legs. He just sits up and is able to move about
>> from one place to the other but scooting around with his front paws. A
>> visit to the Vet is scheduled for tomorrow but I am wondering if any
>> other owners went through this and how did they cope.
>>
>> I've seen pictures of a skateboard or something with wheels to help the
>> dog get around. Does anyone have a drawing or plans so I can put one
>> together?
>
>Dear Worried, do not panic!
>He does not need physical activities right now.
>Use in the meantime supporting leash on his hindquarters.
>
>For bitches I used wide belt around her waist.
>for him you probably need to make two loops under each hip or use
>some commercial supporting devices.
>That would make him easier to eliminate (BTW is he able to control it?).

Hoku's under observation at the Hospital, think he is having problems
moving his bowels.

>If he able and does not feel pain let's pray he will recover.
>
>Wait what vet says.

Saw him today but his condition has not changed and will talk to his
Doctor tomorrow about bringing him home.

>Anyway, I do not think you should opt for special baggy/skateboard
>device for aged small dog.
>Bad thing is strokes might go one after another.
>My active and fit 14-years-old Airdale bitch suffered three srtokes
>in half a year.3rd stroke turned her into vegetable and we put her
>to sleep finally.
>
>I am so sorry for you dog.
>
>Nick(Chicha)

Thanks for the Kind Words and Concern...

Kirk
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:41 pm
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Glimpact wrote:

>You can find a vet that performs acupuncture at the website www.altvetmed.com
>
>Laura


I've contacted a few in the nearby vicinity and can only hope for the
best.

Thanks for replying -

Kirk
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:31 am
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Worried <Worried@.> wrote in
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>
> I understand that age is a inevitable fact but his mind is still alert
> and responsive...
>
> Thanks for the reply -
>


I respect your position. It is not an easy one to be in.
I certainly am not suggesting or trying to persuade you in
any kind of decision, especially without even met the dog.

I've had to put 4 dogs to sleep over the years, and another who died at
home, all at a ripe age
ranging from 10 to 16 years old. The hardest thing for me was just what
you speak of. Having an animal that is mentally in tact, but physically
not doing so well. It was very difficult for me to totally take myself
out of the picture, and make a decision based solely on what would be
humane for the dog.
Of course, once the act of putting the animal to
sleep was done, then I dealt with the grief, brief periods of regret,
and wondering if I did the right thing, coule we have saved him, etc...
Looking back, I do not regret
what I did, and believe each dog met the end with as much dignity as
I could provide for them.I pet each one at their deaths. I was the last
image they saw in their lives.
I guess the point of this rambling is... Whatever you decide, please
make sure it is based solely on what is best for the dog. If we listen
close enough, and put our own feelings and fears aside, I believe the
animal clearly communicates to us when it is time for him or her to go.
It can be with a look they give us, a bark, whimper, or whatever. Only
you could know, since it is your companion. No, they can't speak to us,
but they certainly communicate with us regularly. The hard part is
allowing ourselves to hear them.
But if you decide it is his
time to go, please be there with him. It is an honer for you and the dog,
to know he was with the persion he idolized right up until the end.And
for you... You will leave knowing you indured the emotional pain of
the loss, and you petted, primped, and baby talked to him until he
was gone. It is important for the dogs last moments to be happy. No
crying and the like. We can do that outside in the parking lot when
It's all over. Ok, I'll stop now, tearing up here! I've done this 5 times
and it does NOT get easy.

Good luck, and if he can regain an acceptable quality of life, more
power to him! Keep us posted. We all want to learn and teach other
pet owners who will one day be placed in bad situations with tough
decisions to make.

-Tom
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:31 am
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Loser1 wrote:

>Worried <Worried@.> wrote in
>news:9cdivvo79i228jc9o52bkogkc9kck8c8ob@4ax.com:
>
>>
>> I understand that age is a inevitable fact but his mind is still alert
>> and responsive...
>>
>> Thanks for the reply -
>>
>
>
>I respect your position. It is not an easy one to be in.
>I certainly am not suggesting or trying to persuade you in
>any kind of decision, especially without even met the dog.
>
>I've had to put 4 dogs to sleep over the years, and another who died at
>home, all at a ripe age
>ranging from 10 to 16 years old. The hardest thing for me was just what
>you speak of. Having an animal that is mentally in tact, but physically
>not doing so well. It was very difficult for me to totally take myself
>out of the picture, and make a decision based solely on what would be
>humane for the dog.
>Of course, once the act of putting the animal to
>sleep was done, then I dealt with the grief, brief periods of regret,
>and wondering if I did the right thing, coule we have saved him, etc...
>Looking back, I do not regret
>what I did, and believe each dog met the end with as much dignity as
>I could provide for them.I pet each one at their deaths. I was the last
>image they saw in their lives.
>I guess the point of this rambling is... Whatever you decide, please
>make sure it is based solely on what is best for the dog. If we listen
>close enough, and put our own feelings and fears aside, I believe the
>animal clearly communicates to us when it is time for him or her to go.
>It can be with a look they give us, a bark, whimper, or whatever. Only
>you could know, since it is your companion. No, they can't speak to us,
>but they certainly communicate with us regularly. The hard part is
>allowing ourselves to hear them.
>But if you decide it is his
>time to go, please be there with him. It is an honer for you and the dog,
>to know he was with the persion he idolized right up until the end.And
>for you... You will leave knowing you indured the emotional pain of
>the loss, and you petted, primped, and baby talked to him until he
>was gone. It is important for the dogs last moments to be happy. No
>crying and the like. We can do that outside in the parking lot when
>It's all over. Ok, I'll stop now, tearing up here! I've done this 5 times
>and it does NOT get easy.
>
>Good luck, and if he can regain an acceptable quality of life, more
>power to him! Keep us posted. We all want to learn and teach other
>pet owners who will one day be placed in bad situations with tough
>decisions to make.
>
>-Tom

Hi Tom -

Hoku's Vet could only assume that he suffered a slipped disk or spinal
injury that caused him to lose control of his back legs. She suggested
that it would be in his best interest to be housed at their facilities
for a period of three days. We stopped by to feed him some snacks and
check on his progress but sadly enough, his conditions still remains
the same.

I admire her sense of compassion and wonder why she is not putting me
through the wringer with an endless battery of Tests and X-Rays. Those
actions alone should be the writing on the wall that only a fool would
not be able to realize, that the final chapters of his book are coming
to a close. I have made plans to bring him home tomorrow after talking
to his Doctor and asking her for some medication to 'gently' put him to
Sleep when his time arrives...

It's really heartbreaking to witness his current condition, as this is
happening to a very proud character who was always on top of 'his'
Game. Hoku always seemed to know all the rules since he was a pup, then
ammended the list to add a couple new ones of his own as he grew up.

I have learned that this group helps others in more ways than one.
Questions about general health are always answered but in this case,
common sense and therapy was offered with warmth and sincerity as they
came to the aid of another.

Thank you for the 'priceless' Support and guidance,

Kirk
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:09 am
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Worried <Worried@.> wrote in news:jdfnvvgoqasrp2eqe4mkjcu5n62pgea70o@
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> actions alone should be the writing on the wall that only a fool would
> not be able to realize, that the final chapters of his book are coming
> to a close. I have made plans to bring him home tomorrow after talking
> to his Doctor and asking her for some medication to 'gently' put him to
> Sleep when his time arrives...
>
>
> Thank you for the 'priceless' Support and guidance,
>
> Kirk


The paragraph above says it all. You are now putting the dogs well being
before your emotional needs. And for now, that is great for him. If or
when the
animal tells you "It's time to go" you'll do the right thing.

THEN - you can lose it, cry, and mourn yourself back to wellness.
Some people put a dogs place in the family very low. So when he dies,
it 'shouldn't' be a big deal. But to a pet owner who happens to have
a very special animal, it is no longer an animal. It is a friend and
family member.
Although you probably will end up putting him down at some time,
there is no time off of work, grieving periods, etc.
Not many places to mourn the death of a pet, except if your lucky
and know people who don't view a pet simply as a pet.

Otherwise we come here, or go to various grief boards to vent.
It does help.

Good luck. Your pooches exit will be peaceful, in familiar sourroundings,
and with his 'master'. If only all owners could give their pet this one
last gift when the time comes. It shows that you'd do anything to keep
him from suffering.
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