Right to make a fuss?

Quoth "Dave Leason" <dpl.RemoveThis@dleason.karoo.co.uk> on Tue, 16 Mar 2004
20:02:47 -0000,

Of course you were right to raise these issues. Right for the sake of
the fish, and honestly, I don't know if it's that good for the children
either to have "pets" that will be sickly and die too soon!

I like the idea of asking for donations from a local fish store. A
bigger tank, and, a moby filter.

Who takes care of the fish? Maybe, if folks were serious about asking
why don't you take care of them then, you could work something out. Take
the goldies home to a bigger, better-filtered tank, and have this tank
stocked with a heater and some easier-to-care-for tropicals. Fish that
won't strain the filter and will only need a weekly or even less often
water change. Ration out fish food in cups labeled "monday," "tuesday,"
and so forth and re-stock every time you're in, to prevent overfeeding.
The more I think about this, the more I think they could have a really
nice, fun, HEALTHY tank if you are willing and they went along with
this!

Also, my sincerest regrets that I'm not in the UK. If you were a bit
closer to "home" for me, i.e. driving distance, I'd offer to donate a
used 50 US gallon "for the children" if you could provide a filter.

You might want to ask around, not just at LFS but at the local aquarium
society and local newsgroups. A lot of people do outgrow medium sized
tanks or just get out of fishkeeping, and usually sell the tanks for a
good deal less than the going price. I have just enough faith in
humanity left to think that surely one of these "getting rid of my tank"
people would be willing to donate it to a good cause rather than sell
it.


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You all have a lot of good ideas.
as I work with very ill children we have a lot of people do fund raisers for
us, i will bring this up in our next fundraising meeting, although i know a
lot of people will be more in favour of new bath supports etc (which is
needed , but fish should also be kept healthy not just to be looked at!)

If i had a bigger tank at home i would of brought one of the fish home, but
I have 2 goldies in a 20 gallon and its just about right, no room for any
more!

Not sure who really loks after them, but I am ona shift tomorrow, so im
ready for al the abuse i get off people as i have really annoyed a few
people by raising the points i did.

I would do the same for any creature! i think they thought fish were easy
haha!

Kellie

Ps thank you for the generous thought, as you said shame im in UK!


"Elizabeth Naime" <enaime.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Quoth "Dave Leason" <dpl.RemoveThis@dleason.karoo.co.uk> on Tue, 16 Mar 2004
> 20:02:47 -0000,
>
> Of course you were right to raise these issues. Right for the sake of
> the fish, and honestly, I don't know if it's that good for the children
> either to have "pets" that will be sickly and die too soon!
>
> I like the idea of asking for donations from a local fish store. A
> bigger tank, and, a moby filter.
>
> Who takes care of the fish? Maybe, if folks were serious about asking
> why don't you take care of them then, you could work something out. Take
> the goldies home to a bigger, better-filtered tank, and have this tank
> stocked with a heater and some easier-to-care-for tropicals. Fish that
> won't strain the filter and will only need a weekly or even less often
> water change. Ration out fish food in cups labeled "monday," "tuesday,"
> and so forth and re-stock every time you're in, to prevent overfeeding.
> The more I think about this, the more I think they could have a really
> nice, fun, HEALTHY tank if you are willing and they went along with
> this!
>
> Also, my sincerest regrets that I'm not in the UK. If you were a bit
> closer to "home" for me, i.e. driving distance, I'd offer to donate a
> used 50 US gallon "for the children" if you could provide a filter.
>
> You might want to ask around, not just at LFS but at the local aquarium
> society and local newsgroups. A lot of people do outgrow medium sized
> tanks or just get out of fishkeeping, and usually sell the tanks for a
> good deal less than the going price. I have just enough faith in
> humanity left to think that surely one of these "getting rid of my tank"
> people would be willing to donate it to a good cause rather than sell
> it.
>
>
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As I said your options are to "go it alone or try to build a team, make a
plan, and start working". You don't have to do all the work or even the
majority of it. You do have to build a team, make a plan, and start doing
some of the work. Your work is going to include teaching others how to do
things right and making sure the plan is being followed through.

When you think of it, good coaches and leaders do just that: they build a
team, make a plan, teach others how to do things right and make sure
everyone is doing their part. They often do very little of the actual work.
E.Otter
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Thank you

Since my original posting I have got other staff together (when I am on
shift- work 2 or 3 shifts a week)
Ive shown them how much to feed, what signs of illness to look out for, how
to clean the filter and vacuum the gravel, how to treat water etc etc.

There are still days where noone feeds the fish or even thinks about feeding
them or checking on them which I am unhappy about but I have told all
collegues that if they want to keep fish they must look after them.

Kellie

"E.Otter" <no-email.DeleteThis@given.com> wrote in message
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> As I said your options are to "go it alone or try to build a team, make a
> plan, and start working". You don't have to do all the work or even the
> majority of it. You do have to build a team, make a plan, and start doing
> some of the work. Your work is going to include teaching others how to do
> things right and making sure the plan is being followed through.
>
> When you think of it, good coaches and leaders do just that: they build a
> team, make a plan, teach others how to do things right and make sure
> everyone is doing their part. They often do very little of the actual
work.
> E.Otter
>
>
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