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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:53 pm
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"studio" <tlack DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> That's news to me, I've never heard of such a thing.
> It is true some types of kibble are like junk food, but
> good types of kibble isn't bad for them...
> some cats live (and thrive) on nothing but kibble.

I agree with that. When I got my six month old sweetie from the animal
shelter, they were feeding her Performatrim. I weaned her off that and
started feeding her Iams kibble. In fact, that's all she will eat. I can
cook some fish or shrimp or other seafood and she will go nuts with the
smell and be all over me, but if I actually give her some, she won't eat it.
Same with all the cat treats on the market. I've tried several varieties of
canned cat food and she is just not interested. It's Iams Multicat kibble
and water all the way. In one sense it makes her really easy to feed, but I
can't come home with some special treat for her because she just won't eat
it. The best I can do is on occasion she will eat a dime sized piece of
process cheese and maybe take a few licks of ice cream, but that's about it.
Oh yeah, she will eat a small amount of carrot bran muffin, but everything
else I've tried, nadda.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:36 pm
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On Oct 23, 6:53 pm, "Upscale" <upsc....DeleteThis@teksavvy.com> wrote:
> "studio" <tl....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > That's news to me, I've never heard of such a thing.
> > It is true some types of kibble are like junk food, but
> > good types of kibble isn't bad for them...
> > some cats live (and thrive) on nothing but kibble.
>
> I agree with that. When I got my six month old sweetie from the animal
> shelter, they were feeding her Performatrim. I weaned her off that and
> started feeding her Iams kibble. In fact, that's all she will eat.

Keep offering other foods anyway, at the very least, it satisfies
their
curiousity.

It's somewhat the same with my Big Mama, she will rarely eat
anything humans eat...but I always offer her a piece anyway.
Every once in awhile she will eat 1 or 2 Cherrios, 1 or 2 very small
pieces of cheese, 2-3 very small pieces of fresh cooked chicken,
or 5 or 6 small pieces of wheat bread.
Wheat bread being her favorite...not rye, not white, she won't eat
them.

Not enough to stay alive on, but as more of a small snack.

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:41 pm
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On Oct 23, 4:16 pm, "William Graham" <w....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
> My B-K, spent several months during his first year of life living in a
> Burger King parking lot, off of French fries, onion rings, and anything that
> people threw at him. When I first saw him, it was just before they closed
> for the night, and he stood on his hind legs and put one paw on my knee and
> scratched at my bag with the other paw and said, "Can I have some of your
> burgers, dad?" I picked him up, threw him in the back seat of my car and
> said, "You're never gonna have to eat another French fry again for the rest
> of your life, fella."

Good for you Bill.
B-K was obviously a friendly cat and quite possibly abandoned.
He certainly wouldn't have lived long on his previous diet.
But now he has a good life.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:03 pm
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CatNipped <CatNipped RemoveThis @PossiblePlaces.com> wrote:

: I use the Purina Fancy Feast Gourmet Gold dry food as treats - the stuff is
: like kitty crack, Ozzy has even leared how to open the can to get at them:
: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/Treats.mpg!

Do you keep it refrigerated? I'd imagine a bag lasts much longer if
used as treat rather than food. Does Qzzy like it cold or room temp?
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:09 pm
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CatNipped <CatNipped.RemoveThis@PossiblePlaces.com> wrote:

: I use the Purina Fancy Feast Gourmet Gold dry food as treats - the stuff is
: like kitty crack, Ozzy has even leared how to open the can to get at them:
: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/Treats.mpg !

By the way, great movie!

: Hugs,
:
: CatNipped
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:09 pm
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"RPSinha" <rpsinha DeleteThis @null.void> wrote in message
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> CatNipped <CatNipped DeleteThis @PossiblePlaces.com> wrote:
>
> : I use the Purina Fancy Feast Gourmet Gold dry food as treats - the stuff
> is
> : like kitty crack, Ozzy has even leared how to open the can to get at
> them:
> : http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/Treats.mpg !
>
> By the way, great movie!

Thanks! No, it comes in a zip-lock type bag and I keep a small amount in
the can you saw in the movie (it has a plastic top that snaps on) - that's
enough to keep it fresh enough for them to want to figure out how to open
the can! ;> The can originally came sealed up in plastic in a 35lb.
container of Tidy Cat litter. My cats eat Fancy Feast canned, so I figured
I'd try giving them a few kibbles of this stuff as a treat - they went wild
over it, like I said, "kitty crack"! ;>

>
> : Hugs,
> :
> : CatNipped
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:09 pm
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That is rumble's and Ka'shay's favorite dry food.


"CatNipped" <CatNipped.RemoveThis@PossiblePlaces.com> wrote in message
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> "RPSinha" <rpsinha.RemoveThis@null.void> wrote in message
> news:231020071509517650%rpsinha@null.void...
>> CatNipped <CatNipped.RemoveThis@PossiblePlaces.com> wrote:
>>
>> : I use the Purina Fancy Feast Gourmet Gold dry food as treats - the
>> stuff is
>> : like kitty crack, Ozzy has even leared how to open the can to get at
>> them:
>> : http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/Treats.mpg !
>>
>> By the way, great movie!
>
> Thanks! No, it comes in a zip-lock type bag and I keep a small amount in
> the can you saw in the movie (it has a plastic top that snaps on) - that's
> enough to keep it fresh enough for them to want to figure out how to open
> the can! ;> The can originally came sealed up in plastic in a 35lb.
> container of Tidy Cat litter. My cats eat Fancy Feast canned, so I
> figured I'd try giving them a few kibbles of this stuff as a treat - they
> went wild over it, like I said, "kitty crack"! ;>
>
>>
>> : Hugs,
>> :
>> : CatNipped
>
>
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:21 pm
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On Oct 23, 4:46 pm, RPSinha <rpsi....RemoveThis@null.void> wrote:
> Here are some of the links I read:
> _Which_is_reall>

They are all valid...but so are the responses you've read in this
thread.
There is no such thing as "perfection in eating or nutrition", but
only
the best you can do under circumstances you find yourself.

Cats in the wild tend to eat big meals, then go without for days.
Modern domesticated cats tend to eat smaller meals multiple times per
day, and rarely go without.

As long as you are feeding kitty the best you can, with quality food,
to kibble or not to kibble is not so important.

My kitty gets both, and thrives just fine...never any
health problems, happy and content and is 14 years old.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:41 pm
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On Oct 23, 2:41 pm, "CatNipped" <CatNip....DeleteThis@PossiblePlaces.com> wrote:
> I use the Purina Fancy Feast Gourmet Gold dry food as treats - the stuff is
> like kitty crack, Ozzy has even leared how to open the can to get at them:
http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/Treats.mpg!

Big Mama likes those also...Fancy Feast likes Big Mama, they send her
free samples of their food all the time.

The dark grey cat you have is beautiful.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:46 pm
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studio <tlack.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

: That's news to me, I've never heard of such a thing.
: It is true some types of kibble are like junk food, but
: good types of kibble isn't bad for them...
: some cats live (and thrive) on nothing but kibble.

Here are some of the links I read:

<http://www.catinfo.org/index.htm>

<http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.php?action=library&act=show&item=004>

<http://www.maxshouse.com/feline_nutrition.htm>

<http://www.maxshouse.com/feline_nutrition.htm#Dry_Food_vs_Canned_Food._
_Which_is_reall>
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:53 pm
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On Oct 23, 6:53 pm, "Upscale" <upsc... DeleteThis @teksavvy.com> wrote:
> Oh yeah, she will eat a small amount of carrot bran muffin, but everything
> else I've tried, nadda.

lol...I've never heard of cats liking carrot-bran muffins...but there
are cats out there that will eat almost anything.
I have seen pics of a cat eating raw carrots!...amongst other veggies.

And just like Bill Graham said, his B-K was eating onion rings from
Burger King out of desperation.

In some of the premium cat foods, it's not uncommon to find peas
and other small bits of vegetables.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:40 pm
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"studio" <tlack.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 23, 6:53 pm, "Upscale" <upsc....DeleteThis@teksavvy.com> wrote:
>> "studio" <tl....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > That's news to me, I've never heard of such a thing.
>> > It is true some types of kibble are like junk food, but
>> > good types of kibble isn't bad for them...
>> > some cats live (and thrive) on nothing but kibble.
>>
>> I agree with that. When I got my six month old sweetie from the animal
>> shelter, they were feeding her Performatrim. I weaned her off that and
>> started feeding her Iams kibble. In fact, that's all she will eat.
>
> Keep offering other foods anyway, at the very least, it satisfies
> their
> curiousity.
>
> It's somewhat the same with my Big Mama, she will rarely eat
> anything humans eat...but I always offer her a piece anyway.
> Every once in awhile she will eat 1 or 2 Cherrios, 1 or 2 very small
> pieces of cheese, 2-3 very small pieces of fresh cooked chicken,
> or 5 or 6 small pieces of wheat bread.
> Wheat bread being her favorite...not rye, not white, she won't eat
> them.
>
> Not enough to stay alive on, but as more of a small snack.

I have one that will eat small pieces of cake or donuts, but never enough to
make me worry about her nutrition......I think she eats it just to be
polite......
>
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:39 pm
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On Oct 24, 1:38 am, RPSinha <rpsi....TakeThisOut@null.void> wrote:
> Great stories and discussions. Some of you have misunderstood me: I am
> really enjoying this cat, it's all fun.

For the most part, cats are easy to take care of.
You came to the right place, as we all here enjoy our cats
and like to share stories, learn and help if we can.

> Today, however, she said a faint friendly meow just as she passed me,
> as she kept walking. The tone sounded like "hello". I was delighted. :)

I doubt it was a "hello"...most likely something else.
Cat language is another topic of interest here.

Isn't it interesting that people are supposed to be so much smarter,
but yet so many people have trouble understanding what the few
meows cats make, mean?
And yet as people, we expect the animal to understand every word
we utter?

Cats have anywhere between 25-100 vocals, and they all mean
something different. The point is, they have a fair extent of
"language".

> All in all, a really smart and graceful cat. Before we just found her
> cute but paid no attention beyond that. Now, we are really impressed
> and appreciative.

You've done a fair amount of homework for a person that really
doesn't own a cat.
Cats and humans have historically had a very unique and rewarding
relationship with each other...going back 10,000 years.
In ancient Egypt it was punishable by death to kill one, that's how
seriously beneficial they thought they were to humans.


>From my experience, you can use some quick references to help
you understand what kitty my be trying to say.

Just as in human language...
1. "a question" has an upward inflection at the end
2. "a comment or statement" is flat
3. "a exclamation" is forceful and directed

Then further observation is need to what kitty is doing to help
further determine what it is they are trying to say.

There is no exact translation to english, only an approximation.
This is true also of many different human languages.
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:09 am
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On Oct 24, 3:21 am, RPSinha <rpsi....TakeThisOut@null.void> wrote:
> studio <tl....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well, it is my nature to "research" everything, but I did grow up with
> cats around me. It was less organized "very small town" life in India,
> so they weren't my "pets" but let's say we grew up together.
>
> So I have a natural affection for cats and maybe it shows.
> Temperamentally, I am not comfortable with the modern culture of one
> person owning a "pet". Maybe I just long for my childhood. :-)

What country do you live in now?
I live in US, so here we own animals and do our best to care for them
and protect them as best we can.

An interesting quote from Ghandi says;
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by
the way its animals are treated."

In the US anyway, consumer pet owners spend $40 billion a year,
with many considering their pet a part of their family.

Indeed, I just saw on TV about a woman who has spent $15,000
on her small dog in medical bills, and said she would sell her
house if she had to.

When there is news of any forms of animal abuse, most people
generally get mad and demand action be taken against those
doing the abuse.

> Indeed, and I always told my European friends that there's a good
> chance they are alive only because of cats: during the centuries when
> rodent-spread Black Death (<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death>)
> plagued Europe killing about 2/3 of the population, and humans had no
> worthwhile medical defense to speak of, CATS were all that stood
> between humanity and plague!
>
> Just imagine the historical debt. Without cats, I very have little
> doubt that European races would have been annihilated.

I have also preached the same thing.

> Last evening, having just eaten she was content and going to her bed.
> She didn't want anything from me. Just as she passed me, she said a
> soft meow. I hadn't heard it before. It was a peaceful greeting, even
> if there is no exact translation as you say.

Or maybe, it was a content "thank you".
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:12 am
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studio <tlack DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

: In some of the premium cat foods, it's not uncommon to find peas
: and other small bits of vegetables.

I believe they are meant to appeal not to the cats but to their owners.
It's the market place, whatever works. :)
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