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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:30 am
Post subject: live food
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Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed live food it
would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with it first
that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember when I was
about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit of a
struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could have
sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and probably had
gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I can't bear to
see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even though I know
it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just dont want
to watch it Jean P |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:30 am
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I'm with you Jean. I can't watch "nature" programs either. When I was a little kid, I saw a dog
kill a kitten and I saw some other horrible things that have stayed with me ever since. MLB
Jean H wrote:
> Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed live food it
> would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with it first
> that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember when I was
> about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit of a
> struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could have
> sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and probably had
> gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I can't bear to
> see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even though I know
> it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just dont want
> to watch it Jean P
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:30 am
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my cat loves to torture goldfish before eating them, I think its pretty
damn cool.
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:34 GMT, Jean H wrote:
:Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed live food it
:would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with it first
:that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember when I was
:about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit of a
:struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could have
:sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and probably had
:gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I can't bear to
:see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even though I know
:it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just dont want
:to watch it Jean P
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:30 am
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on the other hand, my turtle is even more interesting when it comes to
eating live goldfish, it bites into the fishes tail and uses its front claws
to life up under the fishes gills and rip its head clean off, then eats
the body/tail part. the head usually sits there bobbing on the top of the
water still breathing for 20 minutes up to an hour.
nature rules!
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:21:14 -0400 (EDT), dinkmeister wrote:
:my cat loves to torture goldfish before eating them, I think its pretty
:damn cool.
:
:
:On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:34 GMT, Jean H wrote:
:
::Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed live food it
::would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with it first
::that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember when I was
::about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit of a
::struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could have
::sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and probably had
::gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I can't bear to
::see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even though I know
::it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just dont want
::to watch it Jean P
::
::
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 10:15 am
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dinkmeister wrote:
> my cat loves to torture goldfish before eating them, I think its pretty
> damn cool.
> your name says it all!
>
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:34 GMT, Jean H wrote:
>
> :Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed live food it
> :would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with it first
> :that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember when I was
> :about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit of a
> :struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could have
> :sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and probably had
> :gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I can't bear to
> :see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even though I know
> :it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just dont want
> :to watch it Jean P
> :
> :
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 12:05 pm
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maybe one day we'll get lucky and the turtle will leave your head floating
on the water
"dinkmeister" wrote in message
> on the other hand, my turtle is even more interesting when it comes to
> eating live goldfish, it bites into the fishes tail and uses its front
claws
> to life up under the fishes gills and rip its head clean off, then eats
> the body/tail part. the head usually sits there bobbing on the top of the
> water still breathing for 20 minutes up to an hour.
>
> nature rules!
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:21:14 -0400 (EDT), dinkmeister wrote:
>
> :my cat loves to torture goldfish before eating them, I think its pretty
> :damn cool.
> :
> :
> :On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:34 GMT, Jean H wrote:
> :
> ::Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed live food
it
> ::would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with it
first
> ::that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember when I
was
> ::about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit of a
> ::struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could have
> ::sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and probably had
> ::gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I can't
bear to
> ::see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even though I
know
> ::it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just dont
want
> ::to watch it Jean P
> ::
> ::
> :
> :
>
>
> >> Stay informed about: live food |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 12:44 pm
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turtles don't eat people, they eat fish (and other small animals/bugs)
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:05:37 GMT, Jean H wrote:
:maybe one day we'll get lucky and the turtle will leave your head floating
:on the water
:"dinkmeister" wrote in message
:
:> on the other hand, my turtle is even more interesting when it comes to
:> eating live goldfish, it bites into the fishes tail and uses its front
:claws
:> to life up under the fishes gills and rip its head clean off, then eats
:> the body/tail part. the head usually sits there bobbing on the top of the
:> water still breathing for 20 minutes up to an hour.
:>
:> nature rules!
:>
:>
:> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:21:14 -0400 (EDT), dinkmeister wrote:
:>
:> :my cat loves to torture goldfish before eating them, I think its pretty
:> :damn cool.
:> :
:> :
:> :On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:34 GMT, Jean H wrote:
:> :
:> ::Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed live food
:it
:> ::would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with it
:first
:> ::that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember when I
:was
:> ::about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit of a
:> ::struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could have
:> ::sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and probably had
:> ::gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I can't
:bear to
:> ::see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even though I
:know
:> ::it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just dont
:want
:> ::to watch it Jean P
:> ::
:> ::
:> :
:> :
:>
:>
:>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:36 pm
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"Shazza" wrote in message
> It's extremely unsettling and nauseous for me when pets as snakes are kept
> and fed live mice.
That's what the snakes would be eating if they were in the wild and not
pets, so it's really six of one, half a dozen of the other. Most people
can't stomach feeding live food and so so don't make pets of animals that
need that, but that doesn't make it wrong.
> Mice are biologically very similar to humans by their
> DNA and that's why mice are used for drug experiments. So what these pet
> owners are doing is feeding an advanced mammal, a mouse, that nurses its
> young, to a rudimentary reptile that lays a bunch of eggs.
It's what snakes eat anyway. It's just the way the food chain works.
> It's one thing for a garter snake or any snake for that matter to exist on
> insects or toads in the wild, but to keep these exotic animals captive in
> homes and willingly feed them mice, that's another story.
It's not really different.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:36 pm
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I find it funny that someone would have no problem with a snake eating
a toad but be irately against a snake that eats rats. Hows their logic
work, anyways? "protect the cute furry animals, kill everything else!!"
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:36 pm
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:00:04 -0400, Shazza wrote:
:It's extremely different because the human is trapping the mice to feed to
:the snake. Where's the level playing field? It's analagous to trapped
:people being fed to lions.
Its fun to feed mice to snakes not to mention nourishing to the snake. and no,
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:36 pm
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:42:14 -0400, Shazza wrote:
:If it's fun feeding mice to snakes and so nourishing, it must be barrels of
:laughter feeding trapped buffalo, monkeys, or humans to lions. Extremely
:nourishing to the lions, as well.
If you say so, but since I'm not around lions that often I tend to just watch
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 2:32 am
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"Shazza" wrote in message
> There is a big difference between a snake
> existing in the wild and trying to fend for itself and a human willingly
> keeping a pet snake and purchasing live caught and trapped bait that has
> absolutely no chance of escape or survival and which the human feeds to
the
> snake.
Unless you feed your cats a vegetarian diet, the animals used to produce the
commercial food for them have no chance to escape either.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:19 am
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who said I thought you were 'people?
"dinkmeister" wrote in message
> turtles don't eat people, they eat fish (and other small animals/bugs)
>
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:05:37 GMT, Jean H wrote:
>
> :maybe one day we'll get lucky and the turtle will leave your head
floating
> :on the water
> :"dinkmeister" wrote in message
> :
> :> on the other hand, my turtle is even more interesting when it comes to
> :> eating live goldfish, it bites into the fishes tail and uses its front
> :claws
> :> to life up under the fishes gills and rip its head clean off, then eats
> :> the body/tail part. the head usually sits there bobbing on the top of
the
> :> water still breathing for 20 minutes up to an hour.
> :>
> :> nature rules!
> :>
> :>
> :> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:21:14 -0400 (EDT), dinkmeister wrote:
> :>
> :> :my cat loves to torture goldfish before eating them, I think its
pretty
> :> :damn cool.
> :> :
> :> :
> :> :On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:34 GMT, Jean H wrote:
> :> :
> :> ::Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed live
food
> :it
> :> ::would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with it
> :first
> :> ::that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember when
I
> :was
> :> ::about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit of
a
> :> ::struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could
have
> :> ::sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and probably
had
> :> ::gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I can't
> :bear to
> :> ::see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even though
I
> :know
> :> ::it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just
dont
> :want
> :> ::to watch it Jean P
> :> ::
> :> ::
> :> :
> :> :
> :>
> :>
> :>
> :
> :
>
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:19 am
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reality too hard for ya?
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:19:34 GMT, Jean H wrote:
:who said I thought you were 'people?
:"dinkmeister" wrote in message
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:> turtles don't eat people, they eat fish (and other small animals/bugs)
:>
:> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:05:37 GMT, Jean H wrote:
:>
:> :maybe one day we'll get lucky and the turtle will leave your head
:floating
:> :on the water
:> :"dinkmeister" wrote in message
:> :
:> :> on the other hand, my turtle is even more interesting when it comes to
:> :> eating live goldfish, it bites into the fishes tail and uses its front
:> :claws
:> :> to life up under the fishes gills and rip its head clean off, then eats
:> :> the body/tail part. the head usually sits there bobbing on the top of
:the
:> :> water still breathing for 20 minutes up to an hour.
:> :>
:> :> nature rules!
:> :>
:> :>
:> :> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:21:14 -0400 (EDT), dinkmeister wrote:
:> :>
:> :> :my cat loves to torture goldfish before eating them, I think its
:pretty
:> :> :damn cool.
:> :> :
:> :> :
:> :> :On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:34 GMT, Jean H wrote:
:> :> :
:> :> ::Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed live
:food
:> :it
:> :> ::would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with it
:> :first
:> :> ::that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember when
:I
:> :was
:> :> ::about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit of
:a
:> :> ::struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could
:have
:> :> ::sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and probably
:had
:> :> ::gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I can't
:> :bear to
:> :> ::see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even though
:I
:> :know
:> :> ::it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just
:dont
:> :want
:> :> ::to watch it Jean P
:> :> ::
:> :> ::
:> :> :
:> :> :
:> :>
:> :>
:> :>
:> :
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:22 am
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just keep away from the zoo
"dinkmeister" wrote in message
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:42:14 -0400, Shazza wrote:
>
> :If it's fun feeding mice to snakes and so nourishing, it must be barrels
of
> :laughter feeding trapped buffalo, monkeys, or humans to lions. Extremely
> :nourishing to the lions, as well.
>
> If you say so, but since I'm not around lions that often I tend to just
watch
> it on Animal Planet (a cabletv channel)
>
>
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