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Since: Mar 03, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:07 am
Post subject: The heater can't keep up, going back to LFS
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Hi,
I am taking back the elite radiant 100w heater... it can't keep up with
my 33gal tank.
It is cracked to the max and the little temp sticker shows 24C.
I'm going to switch to a 200W heater one...
Efficiency wise though what is better, a 200w heater or 2 100w heaters?
I know two is more safe, but I am looking at efficiency (energy use)
and stability of temperature in the tank?
Tomorrow I should be getting some fish, but I still need to get some
rocks for the bottom... man it is hard to choose them... they all look
great and the tank can only take so many... :)
At Walmart they have a old bell with cracks in it in different sizes.
It really looks great, and has hols for the fish to swim through or
hide... I think I will get one of those.
But I still need at least another rock decoration...
I want to have bottom crawlers so I don't the bottom to be just flat
gravel, I want to give some excitment to those buggers. :) |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:18 pm
Post subject: Re: The heater can't keep up, going back to LFS [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Are Radiant that bad?
Anyway I just got an aquaclear 70 300w heater... it says submersible
which I believe allows me to submerge it and put it more towards the
bottom of the tank, as everybody knows heat rises. :)
I got the 300w instead of the 200w because the price was the same for
whatever reason.
I hope I didn't do a mistake. :?
My heating problems should be resolved with this guy. :) |
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Since: May 04, 2005
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:00 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:29 pm
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<HammerJoe.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
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> I am taking back the elite radiant 100w heater... it can't keep up
> with
> my 33gal tank.
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> It is cracked to the max and the little temp sticker shows 24C.
>
I've found those temp stickers to be seriously inaccurate. I have a
45 gallon with a 100w heater that keeps the tank at 78F (25.5C)
without a problem. I keep my house about 68-70F(20C to 21C)
Admittedly, it's an Ebo-Jager. >> Stay informed about: The heater can't keep up, going back to LFS |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:46 pm
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I know that they are not very accurate.
But the fact is that I had it maxed out and the sticker doesn't go
higher than 24C.
I plan on getting thermometer... Walmart sells a digital one for less
than $3Cad but they are out of stock :(
I just felt that I didn't have any room left with the 100W heater. >> Stay informed about: The heater can't keep up, going back to LFS |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:47 pm
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:43 pm
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Do yourself a favour and upgrade your heater from a radiant to a tronic, ebo
or something more reliable. Cheap heaters aren't worth it in the long run.
Can anyone say fish stew?!
<HammerJoe.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1110564445.444069.99320@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I am taking back the elite radiant 100w heater... it can't keep up with
> my 33gal tank.
>
> It is cracked to the max and the little temp sticker shows 24C.
>
> I'm going to switch to a 200W heater one...
>
> Efficiency wise though what is better, a 200w heater or 2 100w heaters?
>
> I know two is more safe, but I am looking at efficiency (energy use)
> and stability of temperature in the tank?
>
> Tomorrow I should be getting some fish, but I still need to get some
> rocks for the bottom... man it is hard to choose them... they all look
> great and the tank can only take so many... :)
> At Walmart they have a old bell with cracks in it in different sizes.
> It really looks great, and has hols for the fish to swim through or
> hide... I think I will get one of those.
> But I still need at least another rock decoration...
>
> I want to have bottom crawlers so I don't the bottom to be just flat
> gravel, I want to give some excitment to those buggers. :)
> >> Stay informed about: The heater can't keep up, going back to LFS |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:26 pm
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Thanks for your reply and great website btw.
I read your piece about heaters and I did wonder about putting this new
heater I got horizontally.
I thought that way the heater would cover a bigger area, and could be
mounted lower on the tank because heat rises so would be more
efficient.
Anyway I tried and it is an eye sore, because it is almost half size
the tank in length it becomes very visible and also they tend to get
very hot, I am afraid fish would get scalded by it...
I didn't quite understand your comment "Some submersibles cycle too
slowly in a horizontal position, as they were already designed with a
lag time to compensate for rising heat"
what do you mean by that? What lag time is it?
Again great site, I will spend some time reading it. :) >> Stay informed about: The heater can't keep up, going back to LFS |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:06 am
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I wouldn't say that the Radiant is bad. It's just not as reliable, in my
experience and many others. Any heater can fail, but I'd rather go with a
heater that has proven it's reliability over the years like an Ebo. The
Hagen heaters aren't bad and are also quite economical. I agree with NetMax
about keeping a 200w instead of a 300w. I run 150watt heaters in my 42G
tanks and everything is fine. My wife heats the house quite well so the
heaters rarely come on unless I have a window open in the winter, as I
sometimes do. :)
<HammerJoe DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Are Radiant that bad?
>
> Anyway I just got an aquaclear 70 300w heater... it says submersible
> which I believe allows me to submerge it and put it more towards the
> bottom of the tank, as everybody knows heat rises. :)
>
> I got the 300w instead of the 200w because the price was the same for
> whatever reason.
> I hope I didn't do a mistake. :?
>
> My heating problems should be resolved with this guy. :)
> >> Stay informed about: The heater can't keep up, going back to LFS |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:30 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:53 pm
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NetMax wrote:
> Then I buy one good thermometer to use as my reference (currently it's a
> digital oven roast thermometer which cost me $15 and is very accurate).
How do you know it's accurate?
I bought a digital thermometer but paid extra for a calibration
certificate. The certificate says how many degrees off the thermometer
is at 25 degrees C. Luckily, this thermometer has a 0 offset, so no
arithmetic when reading the temp. It's useful to see how far off the
cheaper digital thermometers are. 2 degrees C in some cases.
But the sole purpose of the accuracy is so that I can cure ich by
pushing the tank temperature to 34 degrees C and not a degree more or
less. Haven't needed it yet...
Nikki >> Stay informed about: The heater can't keep up, going back to LFS |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:53 pm
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"Nikki Casali" <nikki.TakeThisOut@ncSasPali.deAmoMn.co.uk> wrote in message
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> NetMax wrote:
>> Then I buy one good thermometer to use as my reference (currently it's
>> a digital oven roast thermometer which cost me $15 and is very
>> accurate).
>
> How do you know it's accurate?
Generally speaking, you know it's accurate by the specifications. I also
have a NIST certified infra-red thermometer at work which I could bring
home to compare ;~), but the specs and the repeatability of the
measurements on the meat thermometer gave me the confidence that I was
looking for.
--
www.NetMax.tk
> I bought a digital thermometer but paid extra for a calibration
> certificate. The certificate says how many degrees off the thermometer
> is at 25 degrees C. Luckily, this thermometer has a 0 offset, so no
> arithmetic when reading the temp. It's useful to see how far off the
> cheaper digital thermometers are. 2 degrees C in some cases.
>
> But the sole purpose of the accuracy is so that I can cure ich by
> pushing the tank temperature to 34 degrees C and not a degree more or
> less. Haven't needed it yet...
>
> Nikki
> >> Stay informed about: The heater can't keep up, going back to LFS |
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