heartworm med

Isnt it OK to skip every other year if there was medication thru the time
frame??
"ZPL" wrote in message

> Doesn't the dog need vaccinated and an annual exam this year?
>
> "halv" wrote in message
>
> > Is there anywhere a person can get heartguard without a prescription??
I
> > had my dog checked last year for heartworm and was - . I have given all
> the
> > meds to prevent to this point so I dont see why I need another trip to
the
> > vet. Any problem with injection of farm ivomectin with right dosages??
> >
> >
>
>
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:20:02 -0500, "halv" wrote:

>Is there anywhere a person can get heartguard without a prescription?? I
>had my dog checked last year for heartworm and was - . I have given all the
>meds to prevent to this point so I dont see why I need another trip to the
>vet. Any problem with injection of farm ivomectin with right dosages??

I never skimp on the health care of my dogs. I hope you won't either.

I don't know of a source for HeartGuard without a prescription, but almost anything is possible.

I am very consistent with the administration of HeartGuard, but each of my dogs is tested annually,
as a safeguard against a weak batch of medicine.

As for "injection of farm ivomectin with right dosages," you're dangerous.

I'm not wealthy; so, I have to choose between luxuries for myself or necessities for my dogs. They
*always* win!

Michael
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In my part of the country, most use heartworm preventative year round.
Then, "we" all get a blood draw every year for heartworm testing anyway. I
think even the online pet drug suppliers require a "clear" heartworm test
before selling to you. I think its because if the immature worm gets to a
certain point in growth, the heartworm med can actually kill the dog. (I
think it has to do with the size of the worm and it clogging up the major
vessels and lungs if it dies.)

In many states it is now required that the vet vaccinate for Rabies. Many
states they have changed the guidelines from vaccinating every year, to
every three years. (County and city guidelines can overrule the state - and
it is up to you vet to decide.) The vet usually gives a quick go-over with
the vaccination, just to pick up things line cancerous growths or stuff like
that.

It does seem like a pain to drag the hound in for a blood test. But,
heartworms are SO expensive and can be dangerous to treat.


"halv" wrote in message

> Isnt it OK to skip every other year if there was medication thru the time
> frame??
> "ZPL" wrote in message
>
> > Doesn't the dog need vaccinated and an annual exam this year?
> >
> > "halv" wrote in message
> >
> > > Is there anywhere a person can get heartguard without a prescription??
> I
> > > had my dog checked last year for heartworm and was - . I have given
all
> > the
> > > meds to prevent to this point so I dont see why I need another trip to
> the
> > > vet. Any problem with injection of farm ivomectin with right
dosages??
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: heartworm med 

"ZPL" wrote in message

> Doesn't the dog need vaccinated and an annual exam this year?

......Nope, most likely the dog does not need to be vaccinated yearly.

buglady
take out the dog before replying
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:09:33 GMT, "buglady" wrote:

>> Doesn't the dog need vaccinated and an annual exam this year?
>
>.....Nope, most likely the dog does not need to be vaccinated yearly.
>buglady

By saying, "most likely," I wonder if you are awaiting an official announcement from the National
Veterinary Association, that yearly vaccinations are not needed. Personally, I think it will
forthcoming.

Do you think a yearly titer check will replace certain vaccinations?

Michael
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"ZPL" wrote in message

The vet usually gives a quick go-over with
> the vaccination, just to pick up things line cancerous growths or stuff
like
> that.

.........An annual exam should be more than a quick peek. Vaccinations
should be given only to healthy dogs, as per the label.

buglady
take out the dog before replying
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Re: heartworm med

Group: rec.pets.dogs.health Date: Mon, Jun 30, 2003, 11:09pm (EDT+4)
From: buglady99 RemoveThis @bigfootdog.com (buglady)
"ZPL" wrote in message

Doesn't the dog need vaccinated and an annual exam this year?
.....Nope, most likely the dog does not need to be vaccinated yearly.
buglady
take out the dog before replying

Most likely doesn't cut it when it comes to my dogs. I want to get the
most guarantees I can. Nothing is foolproof but if I do everything I
can to insure against dog diseases then I can rest easy.

Carolyn
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Re: heartworm med

Group: rec.pets.dogs.health Date: Mon, Jun 30, 2003, 11:10pm (EDT+4)
From: buglady99.RemoveThis@bigfootdog.com (buglady)
"ZPL" wrote in message
The vet usually
gives a quick go-over with
the vaccination, just to pick up things line cancerous growths or stuff
like that.
........An annual exam should be more than a quick peek. Vaccinations
should be given only to healthy dogs, as per the label.
buglady
take out the dog before replying

If the dog doesn't have that annual exam the owner won't know whether or
not he is sick until it's too late in some cases.

Carolyn
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"Michael A. Ball" wrote in message

> By saying, "most likely," I wonder if you are awaiting an official
announcement from the National
> Veterinary Association, that yearly vaccinations are not needed.
Personally, I think it will
> forthcoming.

......Well, actually one size doesn't fit all when it comes to vax. Every
animal needs to be evaluated individually, depending on the incidence of
particular diseases in the locale, age and the health of the dog. For
instance a county wide outbreak of parvo might have you reconsidering a
booster, while the coronavirus vax is virtually useless, lyme vax has the
ability to cause more harm than good and the lepto can be dangerous in combo
and has limited value. Despite the fact that annual vax is a habit and not
scientifically sound, now everyone is afraid to back off on something that
doesn't even make good immunological sense. Personally I'm not waiting on
anyone to make those decisions for me. They're mine to make. The
veterinary community is worried about *herd* immunity. I worry about the
critters in my household.
>
> Do you think a yearly titer check will replace certain vaccinations?

.......I doubt it, at least the way they are done now. We still don't know
how the immune system works and a dog with a low antibody titer is perfectly
capable of mounting a defense against a disease, so titers are not the whole
story. It's expensive, but the way titers should be used is to do one
before the vax, then within a reasonable amount of time after the vax. This
tells you the body is capable of defending itself against a known invader.

buglady
take out the dog before replying
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I didnt say I did it I just heard of it. It is the same medicine after all.
Dont you people get fed up with the beaurocracy of the medicines and people
who supply them. If the medicine is given and the dose is right then the
need for a test should only happen every other year. Why else do they charge
so outrageously except for the research and testing. I only want to go in
to the doctor every two to three years and Id rather take my dog in every
other also. I think the vaccines for parvo and rabies are good for two
years.
"Michael A. Ball" wrote in message

> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:20:02 -0500, "halv"
wrote:
>
> >Is there anywhere a person can get heartguard without a prescription?? I
> >had my dog checked last year for heartworm and was - . I have given all
the
> >meds to prevent to this point so I dont see why I need another trip to
the
> >vet. Any problem with injection of farm ivomectin with right dosages??
>
> I never skimp on the health care of my dogs. I hope you won't either.
>
> I don't know of a source for HeartGuard without a prescription, but almost
anything is possible.
>
> I am very consistent with the administration of HeartGuard, but each of my
dogs is tested annually,
> as a safeguard against a weak batch of medicine.
>
> As for "injection of farm ivomectin with right dosages," you're dangerous.
>
> I'm not wealthy; so, I have to choose between luxuries for myself or
necessities for my dogs. They
> *always* win!
>
> Michael
>
 >> Stay informed about: heartworm med 

On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:05:30 -0500, "halv"
wrote:

>I didnt say I did it I just heard of it. It is the same medicine after all.
>Dont you people get fed up with the beaurocracy of the medicines and people
>who supply them. If the medicine is given and the dose is right then the
>need for a test should only happen every other year. Why else do they charge
>so outrageously except for the research and testing. I only want to go in
>to the doctor every two to three years and Id rather take my dog in every
>other also. I think the vaccines for parvo and rabies are good for two
>years.

There are many, many people who safely use cattle ivermectin for
heartworm and intestinal worm prevention, and lots of vets who
encourage it. (The ivermectin is given orally, not injected). Many
rescues use it. It's not a matter of skimping on dogs' health care;
Heartgard is an expensive medication, particularly for people who have
multiple dogs. If people who use cattle ivermectin didn't care about
their dogs, they wouldn't use anything for HW and intestinal worm
prevention.

Sally Hennessey

Sally Hennessey
>"Michael A. Ball" wrote in message
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:20:02 -0500, "halv"
>wrote:
>>
>> >Is there anywhere a person can get heartguard without a prescription?? I
>> >had my dog checked last year for heartworm and was - . I have given all
>the
>> >meds to prevent to this point so I dont see why I need another trip to
>the
>> >vet. Any problem with injection of farm ivomectin with right dosages??
>>
>> I never skimp on the health care of my dogs. I hope you won't either.
>>
>> I don't know of a source for HeartGuard without a prescription, but almost
>anything is possible.
>>
>> I am very consistent with the administration of HeartGuard, but each of my
>dogs is tested annually,
>> as a safeguard against a weak batch of medicine.
>>
>> As for "injection of farm ivomectin with right dosages," you're dangerous.
>>
>> I'm not wealthy; so, I have to choose between luxuries for myself or
>necessities for my dogs. They
>> *always* win!
>>
>> Michael
>>
>
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