Rank these canned foods!

"RPSinha" <rpsinha.TakeThisOut@null.void> wrote in message
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> William Graham <weg9.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
> : Reminds me of a few months ago when I was in the local Safeway. (a
> terrible
> : store) They had Bumble Bee tuna on sale for 40 cents a can, and their
> cat
> : food (same size) was 55 cents a can.....So, I bought several cans of the
> : tuna.....Big mistake! It was so bad that the cats wouldn't eat it.....I
> : wouldn't eat it either........
>
> I assume it was packed in water not oil? How close was expiration, may
> be that's why it was on sale. :)

With Safeway, there's no telling......That's one of the reasons why it's a
terrible store. I don't remember whether it was packed in water or oil.....I
try to buy the stuff packed in water, but the cats like it either way,
usually. I just bought this stuff because it was cheaper than cat food, but
the cats wouldn't touch it........

>
> My cat goes crazy about any brand tuna at first, but gets bored after
> eating about 1/6 of the can. I know she is still hungry because if I
> give her other food, she'll eat with gusto.

Yes. My cats usually only eat a few bites of most anything I give them. But
the feral cat will usually clean it up in the middle of the night.....He
keeps his own hours.......:^)
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cindys <cstein1.TakeThisOut@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

: I don't know about ranking them, but I'm firmly convinced that
: Fancy Feast and Pro Plan are the same food.

Pro Plan is about 30% more expensive at the stores near me, so that
would make a good case for FF. :)
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"Sherry" <sriddles DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 27, 8:12 pm, "cindys" <cste... DeleteThis @rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>> "RPSinha" <rpsi... DeleteThis @null.void> wrote in message
>>
>> news:261020071549535364%rpsinha@null.void...>I am close to a Petsmart and
>> a Whole Foods, can get to a Petco and
>> > Trader Joes. I can brood over prices and look for sales, and my cat can
>> > decide the taste, but could you, the more experienced people here,
>> > please rank the following canned food brands according to nutrition:
>>
>> > Fancy Feast
>> > Pro Plan
>> > Iams
>> > Nutro
>> > Science Diet
>> > Nature's Recipe
>> > Trader Joe's house brand
>> > Whole Foods house brand
>>
>> > Trying to avoid the least and the most expensive.
>>
>> --------
>> I don't know about ranking them, but I'm firmly convinced that Fancy
>> Feast
>> and Pro Plan are the same food.
>> Best regards,
>> ---Cindy S.
>
> Not really, though they are probably close. The texture of the food is
> different.
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They are both made by Nestle/Purina. They both come in all kinds of
different textures: Pate, grilled, flake, shredded, chunks. How are you able
to compare the textures?
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
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On Oct 28, 11:40 am, "cindys" <cste....DeleteThis@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> "Sherry" <sridd....DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193553284.161766.166030@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 27, 8:12 pm, "cindys" <cste....DeleteThis@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> >> "RPSinha" <rpsi....DeleteThis@null.void> wrote in message
>
> >>news:261020071549535364%rpsinha@null.void...>Iam close to a Petsmart and
> >> a Whole Foods, can get to a Petco and
> >> > Trader Joes. I can brood over prices and look for sales, and my cat can
> >> > decide the taste, but could you, the more experienced people here,
> >> > please rank the following canned food brands according to nutrition:
>
> >> > Fancy Feast
> >> > Pro Plan
> >> > Iams
> >> > Nutro
> >> > Science Diet
> >> > Nature's Recipe
> >> > Trader Joe's house brand
> >> > Whole Foods house brand
>
> >> > Trying to avoid the least and the most expensive.
>
> >> --------
> >> I don't know about ranking them, but I'm firmly convinced that Fancy
> >> Feast
> >> and Pro Plan are the same food.
> >> Best regards,
> >> ---Cindy S.
>
> > Not really, though they are probably close. The texture of the food is
> > different.
>
> -----------
> They are both made by Nestle/Purina. They both come in all kinds of
> different textures: Pate, grilled, flake, shredded, chunks. How are you able
> to compare the textures?
> Best regards,
> ---Cindy S.- Hide quoted text -

I buy a lot of both brands. It just looks different. The PP chunk
varieties are denser than FF, not as much liquid.
Many have rice mixed in it, which FF doesn't. Really the one that
*does* look
close, is the FF grilled turkey looks a lot like the PP Turkey & Rice
(sans the
rice of course).
Then there's the new Pro Plan Selects. The texture is different in
those, too. My
cats have totally refused every can of that I've opened for them.

Sherry
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I can understand your point about boycott's however here there is a very
large organisation here in England that carries out really grotesque animal
experiments on all sorts of animals from dogs, and cats and other small
animals through to large intelligent primates.
Rather than just sit back and passively accept this cruelty many hundreds of
thousands of pet-lovers (ordinary people) boycotted their bank (The Royal
Bank of Scotland) in an attempt to get them to stop giving money to this
firm (Huntington Life Sciences) .. after losing many thousands of accounts
the bank pulled the plug on the money going to this laboratory - and more
importantly, no other financial institution wanted to fill the void .. the
government had to step in and advance them finances .. so, a boycott *does*
work...

As for the other comment by the person who suggests that;
"Uh,....can everyone here just shake your heads for a second and remember
that this is CAT FOOD. What do you expect them to test it on ?"

I wasn't going to bother remarking upon this comment as the original text
obviously went right over their head .. nowhere does it suggest that Iams is
having any problems testing their cat food, or, 'CAT FOOD' as you call it
as it quite *clearly* states that their *parent company* Proctor & Gamble
are the ones carrying out this vile cruel business of animal
experimentation, here I am talking about skin-abrasion tests, detergents
squirted into dogs eyes whilst they are held firmly in special cages,
bleaches and other types of detergents being pumped into their stomachs
etc - all this because they want to see what their chemicals do to living
tissue .. *THAT* is what I was referring to .. as for the testing of cat
food - don't you know who does this ??? I will tell you - it is people! yes,
people have jobs whereby they taste and rate these foods - it is a highly
professional job within the pet food industry and one must be highly
trained, the remuneration is really quite good too!. All cat and dog food in
the so-called 'first-world countries' have to make their pet-foods to such a
high standard that it is certainly fit enough to be eaten by humans -
whether one would *want to* is another matter which we are not debating
here. Nearly all pet food here in the UK is made from horsemeat from three
different sources, France, Poland and the former Czechoslovakia.
As for the rest of their comment about 'cats bringing down cows' and strange
flavoured foods (i.e. grasshopper and sparrow) I think the least said the
better ...

Again, as said originally, I just thought it odd that pet lovers would
willingly put money into a firm like P & G through their pet food division
(Iams) when a proportion of that money goes to fund this vile cruelty to
animals which we love ..
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"spannerswirlyflow" <spannerswirlyflow.RemoveThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I can understand your point about boycott's however here there is a very
>large organisation here in England that carries out really grotesque animal
>experiments on all sorts of animals from dogs, and cats and other small
>animals through to large intelligent primates.
> Rather than just sit back and passively accept this cruelty many hundreds
> of thousands of pet-lovers (ordinary people) boycotted their bank (The
> Royal Bank of Scotland) in an attempt to get them to stop giving money to
> this firm (Huntington Life Sciences) .. after losing many thousands of
> accounts the bank pulled the plug on the money going to this laboratory -
> and more importantly, no other financial institution wanted to fill the
> void .. the government had to step in and advance them finances .. so, a
> boycott *does* work...

Huh!!?? You mean using the taxpayer's money to finance their "operation" is
what you call "working"? I think a little "fire in the hole" would be more
in order.........
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spannerswirlyflow <spannerswirlyflow RemoveThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

: Nearly all pet food here in the UK is made from horsemeat from three
: different sources, France, Poland and the former Czechoslovakia.

No experience with UK, but that seems like a different world form all
the chicken / turkey / beef /l lamb / fish cans we have here. Horse
meat?!
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"spannerswirlyflow" <spannerswirlyflow.TakeThisOut@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I can understand your point about boycott's however here there is a very
>large organisation here in England that carries out really grotesque animal
>experiments on all sorts of animals from dogs, and cats and other small
>animals through to large intelligent primates.
> Rather than just sit back and passively accept this cruelty many hundreds
> of thousands of pet-lovers (ordinary people) boycotted their bank (The
> Royal Bank of Scotland) in an attempt to get them to stop giving money to
> this firm (Huntington Life Sciences) .. after losing many thousands of
> accounts the bank pulled the plug on the money going to this laboratory -
> and more importantly, no other financial institution wanted to fill the
> void .. the government had to step in and advance them finances .. so, a
> boycott *does* work...
<snipped>

Are you serious ?
What GOAL did you accomplish by merely having your tax dollars pay for the
same thing ?

I derive no pleasure from seeing anything suffer needlessly, but if you want
house cleaners that just squirt and wipe up, it has to be tested on
something. You might be surprised at how many of those labs have buckled to
public pressure of testing on animals and now test using humans.
The homeless or college kids, are paid meager amounts to replace the
animals
Somehow I just don't see it being a better solution though.

Regarding the original topic of cat food. I still laugh every time I see one
of our furballs in the yard happily chawing down on the catch of the day,
then hearing others complain that prepared cat food may not be hygienically
perfect or not be flavorful enough.
As the cats will start with the ears, and EVERYTHING is eaten, including
bones, fur, internal organs, and whatever was coursing through those
internal organs.

Yet those same cats will often turn up their noses at some of the "human
quality" fast foods, the kids bring home.

It really makes you wonder how smart WE are.
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I think if you do some research you will find that nearly all tinned
pet-food is horsemeat - the ones that are labelled as being 'chicken',
'lamb', 'turkey' etc have been flavoured to give that particular flavour -
even pet-food within the US of A is horsemeat too. Except, as I say, tins of
meat which *specifically* say 'fish' or 'chicken' etc .. if they are chicken
flavoured well you now know what it is ...

... whats with the 'horsemeat??! - it seems like a different world to me',

... do you not think that is what most pets within the US have been eating
for the last 40 years - did you think it was prime beef? As it happens
horsemeat is considered quite a delicacy within many countries for both
humans and pets .... you have been feeding it to your pets whether you knew
about it or not ...

dear me ......
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"spannerswirlyflow" <spannerswirlyflow DeleteThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I think if you do some research you will find that nearly all tinned
>pet-food is horsemeat - the ones that are labelled as being 'chicken',
>'lamb', 'turkey' etc have been flavoured to give that particular flavour -
>even pet-food within the US of A is horsemeat too. Except, as I say, tins
>of meat which *specifically* say 'fish' or 'chicken' etc .. if they are
>chicken flavoured well you now know what it is ...
>
> .. whats with the 'horsemeat??! - it seems like a different world to me',
>
> .. do you not think that is what most pets within the US have been eating
> for the last 40 years - did you think it was prime beef? As it happens
> horsemeat is considered quite a delicacy within many countries for both
> humans and pets .... you have been feeding it to your pets whether you
> knew about it or not ...
>
> dear me ......
>
When I was a kid in Lynbrook, New York, I delivered papers for pin
money.....One Summer, they had a special every week....If you clipped out
the coupon, you could get 11 hamburgers for a dollar at the local White
Castle burger joint. So, since I had a virtually unlimited supply of
coupons, I bought 11 hamburgers every week, and brought them home where my
mom would serve them to me and my dad.....Wouldn't you know it, at the end
of the Summer, the White Castle was busted for serving horse meat.......But
it tasted pretty good to me........
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"AMUN" <spamblocker DeleteThis @bett.net> wrote in message news:fg5ajk$82b$1@aioe.org...
>
> "spannerswirlyflow" <spannerswirlyflow DeleteThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>I can understand your point about boycott's however here there is a very
>>large organisation here in England that carries out really grotesque
>>animal experiments on all sorts of animals from dogs, and cats and other
>>small animals through to large intelligent primates.
>> Rather than just sit back and passively accept this cruelty many hundreds
>> of thousands of pet-lovers (ordinary people) boycotted their bank (The
>> Royal Bank of Scotland) in an attempt to get them to stop giving money to
>> this firm (Huntington Life Sciences) .. after losing many thousands of
>> accounts the bank pulled the plug on the money going to this laboratory -
>> and more importantly, no other financial institution wanted to fill the
>> void .. the government had to step in and advance them finances .. so, a
>> boycott *does* work...
> <snipped>
>
> Are you serious ?
> What GOAL did you accomplish by merely having your tax dollars pay for the
> same thing ?

Exactly.....That's what I meant by, "Huh!!??"
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spannerswirlyflow <spannerswirlyflow.DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

: I think if you do some research you will find that nearly all tinned
: pet-food is horsemeat - the ones that are labelled as being 'chicken',
: 'lamb', 'turkey' etc have been flavoured to give that particular flavour -
: even pet-food within the US of A is horsemeat too. Except, as I say, tins of
: meat which *specifically* say 'fish' or 'chicken' etc .. if they are chicken
: flavoured well you now know what it is ...
:
: .. whats with the 'horsemeat??! - it seems like a different world to me',
:
: .. do you not think that is what most pets within the US have been eating
: for the last 40 years - did you think it was prime beef? As it happens
: horsemeat is considered quite a delicacy within many countries for both
: humans and pets .... you have been feeding it to your pets whether you knew
: about it or not ...

I remain skeptical in the US context and would invite comments and
correction from others.

First, labeling requirements are quite clear here and if most cans were
mostly horse meat, I would expect to have come across that name a few
times.

Second, US pet food industry is a spin off of human food industry,
which is why we have beef and lamb being served to cats (quality of
meat is likely to depend on the brand and, one hopes, the price). This
also argues against horse meat playing a significant role.

But as I said, I would like to hear from others who know differently.
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.. what is it with the 'huh!
and ..

Huh!!?? You mean using the taxpayer's money to finance their "operation" is
what you call "working"? I think a little "fire in the hole" would be more
in order.........

'who' mentioned *anything* about (it) working - as for a little
'fire-in-the-hole' there isn't any sensible comment to respond with - other
than to ask whether you have been watching too many war films of late ...


dear oh dear ...
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