What to feed my 11 week old retriever

In article <20040805004311.03983.00000806 RemoveThis @mb-m17.aol.com>, fshndgs428 RemoveThis @aol.com (Fshndgs428) wrote:
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>Feed her a good quality puppy food such as Purina Puppy Chow for the first few
>months of her life.

Look at the list of ingred. for Purina Puppy Chow Large Breed:

Ground yellow corn : as the 1st ingred?! a low quaility protien source, cheap
in price and nutrition

chicken by-product meal - not whole chicken (white or dark meat) but
by-products, consists of the ground, rendered, clean parts of the carcass of
slaughtered chicken, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs and intestines,
exclusive of feathers.

corn gluten meal : again corn, and the part that does not include the bran

brewers rice: a by product of beer industry (hence brewers). it the bits and
pieces that result from the brewing milling process of rice. they don't use
it so they sell it. Very low quality, but very cheap for the manufacacturer.

soybean meal : a cheap low quality protien source

pearled barley: ok

beef tallow preserved with mixed-tocopherols (source of Vitamin E): Beef
tallow is another name for beef fat, very low quality source

dried beet pulp: stated as being fiber source but in reality is used more as
a stool hardener since a low qulaity corn based diet tends to make for looser
stools

animal digest - very very low protien source, its material which results from
chemical and/or enzymatic hydrolysis of clean and un-decomposed animal tissue


Compare with say Natural Balance® Ultra-Premium Dry Food (other brands are
also good)

Chicken - whole chicken

Brown Rice - Whole rice, and brown at that has all the bran, germ, etc

Duck - whole duck

Lamb Meal - not by-product - that 3 high quality protien sources in the 1st
4 ingred.

Oatmeal - ok

Pearled Barley - ok

Potatoes - good carb source

Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols-a source of Vitamin E, Citric
Acid, and Rosemary Extract) - note its not by-product

Natural Flavor - should be no need to add

Tomato Pomace,

Canola Oil - good high quliatiy oil
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Puppy Chow has alot of corn and by-products. I don't want to feed her
anything like that. I would prefer to feed her something that is all
natural and holistic. I was just wondering what should be the protein and
fat amount that I should be feeding her.

"Fshndgs428" <fshndgs428 DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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> My husband and I just got an 11 week old golden retreiver. Our vet told
us
> that we should feed her something with a low protein. I have heard that
> because she is a large breed puppy she requires a high protein. I was
> wondering if anyone knows what is the protein intake that I should be
> feeding her. Currently we are feeding her a super premium food with 26%
> protein and 16% fat. >>
>
>
> Feed her a good quality puppy food such as Purina Puppy Chow for the first
few
> months of her life.
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"Chris & Suzy" <pets2adopt.TakeThisOut@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> My husband and I just got an 11 week old golden retreiver. Our vet told
us
> that we should feed her something with a low protein. I have heard that
> because she is a large breed puppy she requires a high protein. I was
> wondering if anyone knows what is the protein intake that I should be
> feeding her. Currently we are feeding her a super premium food with 26%
> protein and 16% fat. Is this ok for her or should i get something with a
> lower or higher level of protein and fat. Any advise would be great.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Suzy
>
>
My Vet told me with my Labrador to feed puppy food for the larger breed.
Not sure how many dog foods do the larger breed.
However I fed mine in James Wellbeloved.
I did ask my vet and she was very happy about it.
The larger breed food is balanced so not to make the bones grow to quickly.
Lots of dogs have to be operated due to this problem.
The food for larger breed balances it out according.
Hope this helps with the feeding.
Pat.
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Chris & Suzy wrote:

> Puppy Chow has alot of corn and by-products. I don't want to feed her
> anything like that. I would prefer to feed her something that is all
> natural and holistic. I was just wondering what should be the protein and
> fat amount that I should be feeding her.
>

Large breed puppy foods tend to have very low fat, around 10%. I
think you will run into a conflict, in that the "wholistic" brands tend
not to be leaders in nutrition research, while the brands that sponsor
the research use some of the ingredients the "wholistic" outfits stay
away from. Because of complicated interactions between ingredients
in the gut, plus changes that occur in the food when it is stored, I
believe it is important to select a food labeled as having been
demonstrated in AAFCO feeding trials to provide complete and
adequate nutrition, as opposed to one labeled "formulated
according to AAFCO standards," which means it has not been
proven in feeding trials.

Based on my attempts to understand the subject, I believe some of
the ingredients people shout about are actually pretty good--chicken
by-product meal, for example, and the antioxidant ethoxyquin. Even
corn is probably a better choice than wheat, oats, or barley which
are used in some of the more pricey foods. Other ingredients,
such as "meat meal," "animal fat" and "animal digest" I would avoid.
These terms are all defined by AAFCO to have certain origins and
processing specifications.

Clear as mud, right? FWIW, I have used some Wellness products
with good results. You might look at those.

Amy Dahl
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Natural Choice by NUTRO is pretty decent.


"Chris & Suzy" <pets2adopt.TakeThisOut@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> My husband and I just got an 11 week old golden retreiver. Our vet told
us
> that we should feed her something with a low protein. I have heard that
> because she is a large breed puppy she requires a high protein. I was
> wondering if anyone knows what is the protein intake that I should be
> feeding her. Currently we are feeding her a super premium food with 26%
> protein and 16% fat. Is this ok for her or should i get something with a
> lower or higher level of protein and fat. Any advise would be great.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Suzy
>
>
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Potatoes?? Many dogs are allergic to spuds.


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> In article <20040805004311.03983.00000806 RemoveThis @mb-m17.aol.com>,
fshndgs428 RemoveThis @aol.com (Fshndgs428) wrote:
> ><<
> >
> >Feed her a good quality puppy food such as Purina Puppy Chow for the
first few
> >months of her life.
>
> Look at the list of ingred. for Purina Puppy Chow Large Breed:
>
> Ground yellow corn : as the 1st ingred?! a low quaility protien source,
cheap
> in price and nutrition
>
> chicken by-product meal - not whole chicken (white or dark meat) but
> by-products, consists of the ground, rendered, clean parts of the carcass
of
> slaughtered chicken, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs and intestines,
> exclusive of feathers.
>
> corn gluten meal : again corn, and the part that does not include the bran
>
> brewers rice: a by product of beer industry (hence brewers). it the bits
and
> pieces that result from the brewing milling process of rice. they don't
use
> it so they sell it. Very low quality, but very cheap for the
manufacacturer.
>
> soybean meal : a cheap low quality protien source
>
> pearled barley: ok
>
> beef tallow preserved with mixed-tocopherols (source of Vitamin E): Beef
> tallow is another name for beef fat, very low quality source
>
> dried beet pulp: stated as being fiber source but in reality is used more
as
> a stool hardener since a low qulaity corn based diet tends to make for
looser
> stools
>
> animal digest - very very low protien source, its material which results
from
> chemical and/or enzymatic hydrolysis of clean and un-decomposed animal
tissue
>
>
> Compare with say Natural Balance® Ultra-Premium Dry Food (other brands are
> also good)
>
> Chicken - whole chicken
>
> Brown Rice - Whole rice, and brown at that has all the bran, germ, etc
>
> Duck - whole duck
>
> Lamb Meal - not by-product - that 3 high quality protien sources in the
1st
> 4 ingred.
>
> Oatmeal - ok
>
> Pearled Barley - ok
>
> Potatoes - good carb source
>
> Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols-a source of Vitamin E,
Citric
> Acid, and Rosemary Extract) - note its not by-product
>
> Natural Flavor - should be no need to add
>
> Tomato Pomace,
>
> Canola Oil - good high quliatiy oil
>
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> >Is this ok for her or should i get something with a
> > lower or higher level of protein and fat. Any advise would be great.

I feed my pup Nutro Large Breed puppy, but I was advised by the breeder to
change off puppy food at 5 months, just to make sure he doesn't grow too
fast. Don't know about fat and protein content....

Dale
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