No farmer gives a f..k about his animals

dh@. wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:09:04 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy DeleteThis @ph.con> wrote:
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>>dh@. wrote:
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>>>On 13 Apr 2005 10:38:41 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" <notgenx32 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>"getting to experience life" <retch>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stop bitching
>>
>>Your writing is awful.
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>
> All you need do is come up with something better.

I do, every time. I know how to write; you don't.
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dh@. wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:26:38 -0700, "Dutch" <no.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote:
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>>> Your fantasies always support your elimination objective. Duh.
>>
>>That strawman is preventing you from dealing with the
>>real objections to your ideas.
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> Nope. There is no strawman.

Yes, there is, Fuckwit. Dutch does not have any
"elmination objective". That you say he does is a
strawman. Actually, by now, it's simply a lie.

> There is no talking pig.

Right. There is no talking pig, and there is no story
about a talking pig. That's your strawman, too.

Fuck you, homo hillbilly shitbag.
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<dh@.> wrote in message news:v2s561d9n6ks05j8dicht6p3fseadibg0j@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:28:00 -0700, "Dutch" <no.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote:
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>><dh@.> wrote in message news:hvb161dbbsqd3emc0s18141n2ceo7u90gs@4ax.com...
>>> On 13 Apr 2005 10:38:41 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" <notgenx32.DeleteThis@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>>"getting to experience life" <retch>
>>>
>>> Stop bitching Goo. You have proven that you can do no
>>> better, so it looks like that's what we're stuck with.
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>><<<ffffuuuubbbb>>> (Sound of inflatable clown popping up)
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> You could try it Dutch. Help a Gonad out instead of
> fantasising about pretend clowns.

<<<ffffuuuubbbb>>>
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On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:55:50 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy.DeleteThis@ph.con> wrote:

>dh@. wrote:
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>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:09:04 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy.DeleteThis@ph.con> wrote:
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>>>dh@. wrote:
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>>>>On 13 Apr 2005 10:38:41 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" <notgenx32.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>"getting to experience life" <retch>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stop bitching
>>>
>>>Your writing is awful.
>>
>>
>> All you need do is come up with something better.
>
>I do, every time.

That's a lie. You didn't do it with your last post, or the
one before, or any other, and you are not able to.

>I know how to write; you don't.

You proved you can do no better, and will continue
to prove it unless some day you do manage to do better.
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:54:14 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy RemoveThis @ph.con> wrote:

>dh@. wrote:
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>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:55:50 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy RemoveThis @ph.con> wrote:
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>>>dh@. wrote:
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>>>>On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:09:04 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy RemoveThis @ph.con> wrote:
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>>>>>dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>>>On 13 Apr 2005 10:38:41 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" <notgenx32 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"getting to experience life" <retch>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stop bitching
>>>>>
>>>>>Your writing is awful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All you need do is come up with something better.
>>>
>>>I do, every time.
>>
>>>I know how to write; you don't.
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>> You proved you can do no better
>
>I do better all the time.

Then just do it Gonad. Provide a better way of
putting it, since you've been bragging that you're
able to.
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:05:58 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy RemoveThis @ph.con> wrote:

>dh@. wrote:
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>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:53:58 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy RemoveThis @ph.con> wrote:
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>>>dh@. wrote:
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>>>>On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:54:14 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy RemoveThis @ph.con> wrote:
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>>>>>dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:55:50 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy RemoveThis @ph.con> wrote:
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>>>>>>>dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:09:04 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy RemoveThis @ph.con> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>On 13 Apr 2005 10:38:41 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" <notgenx32 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>"getting to experience life" <retch>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stop bitching
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Your writing is awful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All you need do is come up with something better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I do, every time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I know how to write; you don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You proved you can do no better
>>>>>
>>>>>I do better all the time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then just do it
>>>
>>>I do.
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>>
>> Provide an example then.
>
>Done over and over.

Just do it once Goo, or show where you have done it
before.

LOL!!!! We know you never did, and never will, you
moron. You have proven that repeatedly, and will now
prove it again.
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dh@. wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:05:58 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy DeleteThis @ph.con> wrote:
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> >dh@. wrote:
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> >> On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:53:58 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy DeleteThis @ph.con>
wrote:
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> >>
> >>>dh@. wrote:
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> >>>>On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:54:14 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy DeleteThis @ph.con>
wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>dh@. wrote:
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:55:50 GMT, Rudy Canoza <someguy DeleteThis @ph.con>
wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>dh@. wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:09:04 GMT, Rudy Canoza
<someguy DeleteThis @ph.con> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>dh@. wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>>On 13 Apr 2005 10:38:41 -0700, "Rudy Canoza"
<notgenx32 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>"getting to experience life" <retch>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Stop bitching
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Your writing is awful.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All you need do is come up with something better.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I do, every time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I know how to write; you don't.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You proved you can do no better
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I do better all the time.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Then just do it
> >>>
> >>>I do.
> >>
> >>
> >> Provide an example then.
> >
> >Done over and over.
>
> Just do it once

Done over and over already, Fuckwit.
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"Gordon Couger" <gcougerTakeThisOut DeleteThis @couger.com> wrote
> Rudy Canoza wrote:

>> True, but unimportant: coming into existence is not a benefit.
>
> It that's true, then the relieve the world the burden of providing for
> you.

You missed his point Gordon. He didn't say that life is not *good* or
meaningful, or that he doesn't value or cherish it, what he said was "
coming into existence is not a benefit", meaning that the word "benefit"
implies that there is a "beneficiary" to receive that benefit. Coming into
existence is the one good (if you judge it so) thing that cannot logically
be a "benefit".

Only existing entities can receive a benefit, but once you are born and
exist, you can no longer receive the "benefit of life" if you will, since
you already have it!

It's a case of fine semantics in one sense, but it's necessary to be precise
in the usage to avert equivocation, such as pinhead Harrison's "vegans are
denying the benefit of life to animals".
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Dean Hoffman wrote:
> Rudy Canoza wrote:
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>> You're missing the point - not surprising, given how shittily you
>> write. Fuckwit David Harrison believes meat eaters are doing animals a
>> favor by causing them to live.
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> I think Gordon mentioned once he has dyslexia or some other condition
> that causes his writing problems. He's farmed for years in Oklahoma and
> has worked with some of the universities there. He doesn't seem to miss
> much on the practical side of farming.

That last may be true, but this issue of existence
being a "benefit" to farm animals isn't on the
practical side.
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Dutch wrote:
> "Gordon Couger" <gcougerTakeThisOut.RemoveThis@couger.com> wrote
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>>Rudy Canoza wrote:
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>>>True, but unimportant: coming into existence is not a benefit.
>>
>>It that's true, then the relieve the world the burden of providing for
>>you.
>
>
> You missed his point Gordon. He didn't say that life is not *good* or
> meaningful, or that he doesn't value or cherish it, what he said was "
> coming into existence is not a benefit", meaning that the word "benefit"
> implies that there is a "beneficiary" to receive that benefit. Coming into
> existence is the one good (if you judge it so) thing that cannot logically
> be a "benefit".
>
> Only existing entities can receive a benefit, but once you are born and
> exist, you can no longer receive the "benefit of life" if you will, since
> you already have it!
>
> It's a case of fine semantics in one sense, but it's necessary to be precise
> in the usage to avert equivocation, such as pinhead Harrison's "vegans are
> denying the benefit of life to animals".

Dutch,

You might as well be plowing a quarter section with a teaspoon
as wasting time with fools like these. Go rattle Tors ten's
chain at least he can hold up an interesting argument and not
sift through the same stupid stuff over an over.

At least a vegan diet reduces their reproductive ability enough
there won't reproduce well.

Gordon

Gordon
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