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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 6:49 pm
Post subject: No need for farmed animals. (more logic of the larder) Attn. Jonathan Ball
Archived from groups: alt>animals>ethics>vegetarian, others (more info?)

"Dutch" <no DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in message news:vvtt37ora9na59@news.supernews.com...
> "ipse dixit" <nospam DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in message news:btmpcu$8f84d$1@ID-190488.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > "Dutch" <no DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in message news:vvtnvbaap70587@news.supernews.com...
> > > "ipse dixit" <nospam DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in message news:btlq1e$8am5s$1@ID-190488.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > "Dutch" <no DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in message news:vvrn7mjddle504@news.supernews.com...
> > > > > "ipse dixit" <nospam DeleteThis @email.com> wrote the same old bullshit
> > > > >
> > > > > You lost as usual, you career fuck-up, admit it.
> > > > >
> > > > Your snipping and running from threads you've
> > > > lost out on is a joke, Ditch. The original claim
> > > > was that only Harrison believed a short life as a
> > > > farm animal was better than no life at all.
> > >
And below this line is Jon's statement proving just that.
> >
> > "There is exactly one person you've ever read in
> > these newsgroups who believes the "animals getting
> > to experience life" crapola, and EVERY omnivore
> > apart from Fuckwit who has ever addressed the
> > issue with him has told him his "theory" is bullshit."
> > Jonathan Ball 2003-06-25
>
> And the subsequent posting of your alter ego "Benefez"
> does not contradict that.
>
Polly's belief in Fuckwits theory certainly does, so
Jon's claim was and is certainly a lie.

> > > > "There is exactly one person you've ever read in
> > > > these newsgroups who believes the "animals getting
> > > > to experience life" crapola
> > >
> > > One person *** you've ever read in these newsgroups***.
> >
> > And that one person is Fuckwit Harrison. You
> > knew that, which is why you snipped Jon's
> > quote away. Learn to accept your defeats.
>
> That's a hard lesson to learn

It's a lesson you MUST learn. Here's the evidence
of Polly's belief which you snipped away in your
embarrassment.

"No. Before you got here, there was one other person,
also a lying moron, who claimed to believe that
animals' "getting to experience life" was something
that *ought* to happen, because she saw it as a good
thing in and of itself. Her name was Polly. She was
very good buddies with senile Aunt Bea. She at least
admitted to being a boutique farmer, although not in so
many words. But Polly believed it before she got here;
Fuckwit didn't persuade her."
Jonathan Ball 2001-10-31
tch tch tch

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 6:49 pm
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"ipse dixit" <nospam.TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote in message
news:btmt48$9dg9e$2@ID-190488.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "Dutch" <no.TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote in message
news:vvtt37ora9na59@news.supernews.com...
> > "ipse dixit" <nospam.TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote in message
news:btmpcu$8f84d$1@ID-190488.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > "Dutch" <no.TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote in message
news:vvtnvbaap70587@news.supernews.com...
> > > > "ipse dixit" <nospam.TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote in message
news:btlq1e$8am5s$1@ID-190488.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > "Dutch" <no.TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote in message
news:vvrn7mjddle504@news.supernews.com...
> > > > > > "ipse dixit" <nospam.TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote the same old bullshit
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You lost as usual, you career fuck-up, admit it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Your snipping and running from threads you've
> > > > > lost out on is a joke, Ditch. The original claim
> > > > > was that only Harrison believed a short life as a
> > > > > farm animal was better than no life at all.
> > > >
> And below this line is Jon's statement proving just that.
> > >
> > > "There is exactly one person you've ever read in
> > > these newsgroups who believes the "animals getting
> > > to experience life" crapola, and EVERY omnivore
> > > apart from Fuckwit who has ever addressed the
> > > issue with him has told him his "theory" is bullshit."
> > > Jonathan Ball 2003-06-25
> >
> > And the subsequent posting of your alter ego "Benefez"
> > does not contradict that.
> >
> Polly's belief in Fuckwits theory certainly does

Your contention was that your alter ego "Benefez" contradicted a statement
made *before* you invented him.

Your claim was that most "meatarians" subscribe to "the logic of the
larder".

Like all your claims, both are obviously false.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:19 pm
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"Dutch" <no.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote in message news:vvtv30m011pn4c@news.supernews.com...
> "ipse dixit" <nospam.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote in message news:btmt48$9dg9e$2@ID-190488.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > "Dutch" <no.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote in message news:vvtt37ora9na59@news.supernews.com...
> > > "ipse dixit" <nospam.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote in message news:btmpcu$8f84d$1@ID-190488.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > "Dutch" <no.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote in message news:vvtnvbaap70587@news.supernews.com...
> > > > > "ipse dixit" <nospam.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote in message news:btlq1e$8am5s$1@ID-190488.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > > "Dutch" <no.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote in message news:vvrn7mjddle504@news.supernews.com...
> > > > > > > "ipse dixit" <nospam.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote the same old bullshit
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You lost as usual, you career fuck-up, admit it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Your snipping and running from threads you've
> > > > > > lost out on is a joke, Ditch. The original claim
> > > > > > was that only Harrison believed a short life as a
> > > > > > farm animal was better than no life at all.
> > > > >
> > And below this line is Jon's statement proving just that.
> > > >
> > > > "There is exactly one person you've ever read in
> > > > these newsgroups who believes the "animals getting
> > > > to experience life" crapola, and EVERY omnivore
> > > > apart from Fuckwit who has ever addressed the
> > > > issue with him has told him his "theory" is bullshit."
> > > > Jonathan Ball 2003-06-25
> > >
> > > And the subsequent posting of your alter ego "Benefez"
> > > does not contradict that.
> > >
> > Polly's belief in Fuckwits theory certainly does
>
> Your contention was that your alter ego "Benefez"
> contradicted a statement made *before* you invented him.
>
I'm not Benefez, but if it eases your embarrassment
to believe I am, then go ahead and continue deluding
yourself. Deluding yourself makes you feel comfortable,
remember?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:19 pm
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"ipse dixit" <nospam.TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote

> > Your contention was that your alter ego "Benefez"
> > contradicted a statement made *before* you invented him.
> >
> I'm not Benefez,

Maybe not, but then you said you wern't Derek Nash either, and you lied
about your grocery basket, so it's not likely I'd believe a word you say.

> but if it eases your embarrassment
> to believe I am,

I'm not the one trying to support a claim that "most" or "all" meat eaters
subscribe to the logic of the larder by coming up with a couple of names.

> then go ahead and continue deluding
> yourself. Deluding yourself makes you feel comfortable,
> remember?

You should know, taking all those meds tested on animals works pretty well
too.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 1:06 pm
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On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:57:40 -0800, "Dutch" <no.TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote:
>"ipse dixit" <nospam.TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote
>
>> > Your contention was that your alter ego "Benefez"
>> > contradicted a statement made *before* you invented him.
>> >
>> I'm not Benefez,
>
>Maybe not, but then you said you wern't Derek Nash either,
>and you lied about your grocery basket,

For the record, when you asked me about the contents
of my grocery basket I told you it was fallen apples
and mustard cress. You edited those items in your
reply post to include non-vegan products without noting
it, hoping the reader in google archives would note I
actually buy those items. Your excuse for that unethical
stunt was just as unethical. You claimed you did it because
you thought I was lying, yet I might've actually been on a
vegan-type fast at the time of your asking.

>> then go ahead and continue deluding
>> yourself. Deluding yourself makes you feel comfortable,
>> remember?
>
>You should know

That's rich, especially from someone who openly
admits to deluding himself intentionally to feel more
comfortable with the lies he invents.

" I did find deluding myself quite comfortable,
after all who was it hurting?"
Dutch 17/03/2002

And

"I no longer cling to that illusion because it
is impossible to support. I no longer feel the
need invent ways to try either, which is the
real relief."
Dutch 16/02/2002

And

"The reason I left AR is precisely that I DON'T
feel comfortable *knowingly* deluding myself.
Dutch 19/03/2002

Your hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me. How
can you sit there accusing everyone else of being
deluded when it's clear that only you suffer from
them?
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 1:06 pm
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"ipse dixit" <nospam.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:57:40 -0800, "Dutch" <no.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote:
> >"ipse dixit" <nospam.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote
> >
> >> > Your contention was that your alter ego "Benefez"
> >> > contradicted a statement made *before* you invented him.
> >> >
> >> I'm not Benefez,
> >
> >Maybe not, but then you said you wern't Derek Nash either,
> >and you lied about your grocery basket,
>
> For the record, when you asked me about the contents
> of my grocery basket I told you it was fallen apples
> and mustard cress.

An outright lie.

> You edited those items in your
> reply post to include non-vegan products without noting
> it, hoping the reader in google archives would note I
> actually buy those items.

Your attribution of my motives is as misguided as everything else you say. I
am not obsessed with "Google archives" as you are. My motive was to bring to
topic the unethical tactics you use in posting, particularly quoting out of
context and unnoted unethical snipping. Your lying in that case was just the
final straw.

> Your excuse for that unethical
> stunt was just as unethical. You claimed you did it because
> you thought I was lying, yet I might've actually been on a
> vegan-type fast at the time of your asking.

You weren't. I don't believe you are even a vegetarian.
>
> >> then go ahead and continue deluding
> >> yourself. Deluding yourself makes you feel comfortable,
> >> remember?
> >
> >You should know

> Your hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me. How
> can you sit there accusing everyone else of being
> deluded when it's clear that only you suffer from
> them?

Your delusions are blatantly obvious to everyone here. What's astounding is
that you appear to not realize it.
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