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"Suja" <spanaval DeleteThis @yahoo.com> said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

> From what I've read, the cordless is less noisy, and of
> course, easier to use because you don't have to worry about
> dogs and cords and outlets.

As Melinda said, the smell can bother the dogs. That's been my
experience, too, so I prefer to Dremel the dogs' nails outside.
The cordless would have been a better choice but I bought a
corded model in the days of NiCd not-so-good batteries. If I
was to buy a Dremel now, it would definitely be cordless.

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shore.RemoveThis@panix.com (Melinda Shore) said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

> I've found that massaging their feet does wonders towards
> desensitization in general, which makes trimming easier in
> turn.

I've played with all of my recent dogs' feet from the moment I
got them. Rocky's always been fine with nail trimming of all
sorts, Friday dislikes it (started off at 7 months as hating
it), and Maybe acts like she's being punished.

Maybe is the one I'm somewhat concerned about. She acts like
she's being punished but puts up with the punishment because she
trusts the punisher.

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elegy <elegy.RemoveThis@DOGPOOPshattering.org> said in
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> i borrowed a dremel once to try on mushroom to see if that
> would go better than the clippers and i couldn't get
> anywhere near him with it!

Dremels need some desensitization with many dogs, what with the
motor and all.

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:44:53 -0500, elegy
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>and not to mention, it's *so* counter-productive to put the dog in
>that situation in the first place. it just underlines a hundred times
>over that nail trims are something traumatic, something to be feared
>and something to fight. so not helpful.

Yep. Nail trimming used to be DH's jobs (one of the few things he
does for the dogs), but he has no patience and insists on trimming
with them on their backs. The Whippets don't mind, and we've had dogs
that were fine with it, but he tried it with Music and Music tried to
bite him, and things deteriorated from there, so I took over doing
most of the dogs.

>we do some nail trims in the rooms, but if it's going to be a fandango
>(or if the doctor is running behind), they go to the back, just
>because that's where we have the most available staff. one doctor does
>her blooddraws in the room, the other doesn't.

Do the vets actually do the nail trims?

>i was *so* stressed when i took luce for her consult with the ortho
>specialist, so i can totally understand owners who make their dogs
>more stressed instead of less.

Yeah, I don't know why I even said that. I'm usually pretty calm, but
it depends on the situation and why we're at the vet's in the first
place. It doesn't take much stress for most dogs to pick up on it,
and most owners will be stressed if there's something serious going
on.

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elegy <elegy DeleteThis @DOGPOOPshattering.org> wrote:

>
> my dogs will tolerate it pretty well lying on their sides, so that's
> usually how i do them. sometimes i do luce standing up. i remember the
> first time i saw a former coworker ask her dog to lie down and present
> feet for a nail trim. i was floored.

I sit on the floor, invite a dog into my lap, and have to fend off the
others. Everyone wants their nails clipped! I often do it while we
watch tv. Dog is on sofa with me, I keep the clippers nearby, and
sometimes the paws are all up in the air. I just did Rudy's that way
last night. He went back to sleep.

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In article <l4ifp3d9a2a094u79ha4m0nigffjjifs7q RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
elegy <elegy RemoveThis @DOGPOOPshattering.org> wrote:
>i am so easily stressed by stuff regarding my dogs and their health.
>it's no wonder harv's neurotic!

That is completely the wrong way to frame it. The correct
way is:

I care so much about my dogs and their health. Think
how crazy Harv would be without me!
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elegy <elegy RemoveThis @DOGPOOPshattering.org> wrote in
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> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:10:43 GMT, Robin Nuttall <robinjn RemoveThis @mchsi.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I think a lot of it is clueless owners who just don't ever bother to get
>>their dogs used to feet being handled, and who wait until the claws are
>>ungodly long then whack them off while making a huge freaking production
>>of it.
>
> yup. yup yup yup yup yup. we trim toenails at every puppy exam, plying
> pup with cookies, just to get them used to it, but a couple puppy
> exams is just a drop in the bucket, and so few owners seem to carry
> through with touchy feely at home.

I know a few ACD owners, quite the opposite of clueless, who make every
effort to accustom their puppies to foot handling, clip toenails regularly,
and still end up using 2 people and a muzzle each and every time. I'm
pretty sure it isn't their lack of dedication or canine savvy, so I'm left
with the impression that there *are* dogs that are so sensitive to having
their feet handled that it never becomes routine. Not many, but they do
exist.

I haven't had to deal with any, though. Knock wood.

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"montana wildhack" <montana.TakeThisOut@wildhack.com.invalid> wrote in message:

> I am freaked out about hitting the
> quick, so I come to the job with tension.

The rescue did a dog wash fundraiser a couple of months ago, and I don't
think any of us realized that people that want their dogs bathed might also
want to have their nails clipped. I believe we ended up having to volunteer
some brave soul to do it. If there is anything worse than fear of cutting
into the quick of one's own dog, it has to be fear of quicking someone
else's dog. We ended up with one bleeder, and it looked like a blood bath
(white towels were in use), but it was the guy's personal dog.

Suja
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