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Since: May 24, 2005 Posts: 286
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:10 am
Post subject: ethics: The stray that wasn't.. Archived from groups: rec>pets>cats>rescue (more info?)
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About three weeks ago this nice little tom started visiting us. We
have two indoor cats and they were pretty agitated.
He kept coming around, and I took a good look at him. He was
un-neutered, looked to be a year or two old, was bedraggled and
riddled with ear mites. Other than that he was friendly and seemed in
good health. He didn't seem bothered by the cats trying to tunnel
through the picture window to get to him.. his response was to spray
our house. And our car. And our garden.. etc.
After a couple weeks, I decided I'd put some food out for him, which
he graciously wolfed down and asked for more. I put a cardboard box in
the shade for him to lay in, and he took up residence.
Well, to make a long story short, I checked the Humane Society, asked
around the neighborhood and put up posters, but no one recognized him.
So we made the decision to adopt him. Took him to the vet, got his
vaccinations, cleaned his ears, and got him fixed. About $450
altogether, which we could barely spare..
Today a kid bikes up to me and says "hey mister, remember that cat you
were asking about? Someone has a lost cat poster up at the rec center
and it looks like him".
Now.. if someone 'owned' him and let him rove freely, un-neutered, and
let the mites get to the point where his ears were running, should I
call them and tell them I found their cat?
Maybe there's a little kid who loves that (absentee) cat as much I
love my cats. Maybe they didn't know better.
If it turns out to be him, should I call?
Brian Link, Minnesota Countertenor
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"I think animal testing is a terrible idea;
they get all nervous and give the wrong answers."
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Since: Jan 06, 2004 Posts: 601
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:24 am
Post subject: Re: ethics: The stray that wasn't.. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"Brian Link" <blink.TakeThisOut@visi.com> wrote in message
news:gpnse0t5i82a7pfniugb0cpg2uuib3suit@4ax.com...
> About three weeks ago this nice little tom started visiting us. We
> have two indoor cats and they were pretty agitated.
>
> He kept coming around, and I took a good look at him. He was
> un-neutered, looked to be a year or two old, was bedraggled and
> riddled with ear mites. Other than that he was friendly and seemed in
> good health. He didn't seem bothered by the cats trying to tunnel
> through the picture window to get to him.. his response was to spray
> our house. And our car. And our garden.. etc.
>
> After a couple weeks, I decided I'd put some food out for him, which
> he graciously wolfed down and asked for more. I put a cardboard box in
> the shade for him to lay in, and he took up residence.
>
> Well, to make a long story short, I checked the Humane Society, asked
> around the neighborhood and put up posters, but no one recognized him.
> So we made the decision to adopt him. Took him to the vet, got his
> vaccinations, cleaned his ears, and got him fixed. About $450
> altogether, which we could barely spare..
>
> Today a kid bikes up to me and says "hey mister, remember that cat you
> were asking about? Someone has a lost cat poster up at the rec center
> and it looks like him".
>
> Now.. if someone 'owned' him and let him rove freely, un-neutered, and
> let the mites get to the point where his ears were running, should I
> call them and tell them I found their cat?
>
> Maybe there's a little kid who loves that (absentee) cat as much I
> love my cats. Maybe they didn't know better.
>
> If it turns out to be him, should I call?
>
> Brian Link, Minnesota Countertenor
I guess I'd go check out the lost cat poster to see if this really could be
the cat you have.
Many times they have a date when the cat went missing on the posters which
might assist you in making the decision whether to call or not. If they said
the cat just recently went missing then I'd keep him. If they let the cat
get in this condition they shouldn't have a cat. If the poster has been
there a while then there is a possibility he just got out on them and has
been wandering long enough to get in this shape.
Legally I don't know if you can keep the cat or not if it is the cat on the
poster. But you might be able to recoup at least some of the money you spent
if you have to surrender the cat to the owners.
W >> Stay informed about: ethics: The stray that wasn't.. |
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Since: Mar 17, 2004 Posts: 35
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:03 am
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Brian Link <blink.TakeThisOut@visi.com> wrote in message news:<gpnse0t5i82a7pfniugb0cpg2uuib3suit.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>...
> About three weeks ago this nice little tom started visiting us. We
> have two indoor cats and they were pretty agitated.
>
> He kept coming around, and I took a good look at him. He was
> un-neutered, looked to be a year or two old, was bedraggled and
> riddled with ear mites. Other than that he was friendly and seemed in
> good health. He didn't seem bothered by the cats trying to tunnel
> through the picture window to get to him.. his response was to spray
> our house. And our car. And our garden.. etc.
>
> After a couple weeks, I decided I'd put some food out for him, which
> he graciously wolfed down and asked for more. I put a cardboard box in
> the shade for him to lay in, and he took up residence.
>
> Well, to make a long story short, I checked the Humane Society, asked
> around the neighborhood and put up posters, but no one recognized him.
> So we made the decision to adopt him. Took him to the vet, got his
> vaccinations, cleaned his ears, and got him fixed. About $450
> altogether, which we could barely spare..
>
> Today a kid bikes up to me and says "hey mister, remember that cat you
> were asking about? Someone has a lost cat poster up at the rec center
> and it looks like him".
>
> Now.. if someone 'owned' him and let him rove freely, un-neutered, and
> let the mites get to the point where his ears were running, should I
> call them and tell them I found their cat?
>
> Maybe there's a little kid who loves that (absentee) cat as much I
> love my cats. Maybe they didn't know better.
>
> If it turns out to be him, should I call?
>
Yes. >> Stay informed about: ethics: The stray that wasn't.. |
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Since: Sep 04, 2003 Posts: 260
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:11 pm
Post subject: Re: ethics: The stray that wasn't.. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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blink.TakeThisOut@visi.com writes
> if someone 'owned' him and let >him rove freely, un-neutered, and
>let the mites get to the point where >his ears were running, should I
>call them and tell them I found their <cat?
If someone let their cat out without spaying/neutering her/him first...I'd say,
they lost any rights or courtesy in "notifying" them about the whereabouts of
said cat. If the cat acccidently ran outside, then, that's another
tale......Perhaps they were treating the cat (for the earmites) before he
"accidently got out"? >> Stay informed about: ethics: The stray that wasn't.. |
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Since: Nov 19, 2003 Posts: 46
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:47 pm
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 04:10:28 -0500, Brian Link <blink DeleteThis @visi.com> wrote:
>About three weeks ago this nice little tom started visiting us. We
>have two indoor cats and they were pretty agitated.
>
>He kept coming around, and I took a good look at him. He was
>un-neutered, looked to be a year or two old, was bedraggled and
>riddled with ear mites. Other than that he was friendly and seemed in
>good health. He didn't seem bothered by the cats trying to tunnel
>through the picture window to get to him.. his response was to spray
>our house. And our car. And our garden.. etc.
>
>After a couple weeks, I decided I'd put some food out for him, which
>he graciously wolfed down and asked for more. I put a cardboard box in
>the shade for him to lay in, and he took up residence.
>
>Well, to make a long story short, I checked the Humane Society, asked
>around the neighborhood and put up posters, but no one recognized him.
>So we made the decision to adopt him. Took him to the vet, got his
>vaccinations, cleaned his ears, and got him fixed. About $450
>altogether, which we could barely spare..
>
>Today a kid bikes up to me and says "hey mister, remember that cat you
>were asking about? Someone has a lost cat poster up at the rec center
>and it looks like him".
>
>Now.. if someone 'owned' him and let him rove freely, un-neutered, and
>let the mites get to the point where his ears were running, should I
>call them and tell them I found their cat?
>
>Maybe there's a little kid who loves that (absentee) cat as much I
>love my cats. Maybe they didn't know better.
>
>If it turns out to be him, should I call?
>
>Brian Link, Minnesota Countertenor
>----------------------------------
>"I think animal testing is a terrible idea;
>they get all nervous and give the wrong answers."
> - regmech
That is a tough call. On the one hand, it could be that they cat went
missing awhile back (in which case, why wouldn't they have posters up
earlier?) and that's how he got in this shape. And as you said, you
wouldn't want to break a little kids' heart.
On the other hand, I have less and less patience for anyone who
deliberately allows their cat out, doesn't spay/neuter, etc.
I used to try *very* hard to track down owners -- knocking on doors,
looking for signs, calling the Humane Society, etc. I seem to try
less hard, especially when I find an unneutered cat full of fleas and
mites who clearly hasn't been cared for.
Over the years, I have found and returned cats to their homes -- in
those cases, the cat snuck out and had only been gone a day or so, and
they were in good shape. Others I have found were in bad shape, and I
never did see any signs, get any knocks on my door (I'm kinda the
"neighborhood cat lady", or find anywhere they seemed to belong.
Bottom line, what do you feel is the right thing to do for the cat?
And that's your answer.
Best of luck,
Ginger-lyn >> Stay informed about: ethics: The stray that wasn't.. |
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Since: Jul 03, 2003 Posts: 660
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:47 pm
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:47:12 GMT, glsummer.DeleteThis@neptunelink.com (Ginger-lyn
Summer) wrote:
>Bottom line, what do you feel is the right thing to do for the cat?
I feel that perhaps that should be truned around: people can't 'own'
cats - they may think they do, but ultimately it's the cat that
decides where to live and with whom. If a cat choses to live with me,
I keep it unless approached by someone claiming the cat, then I let
the cat choose. All my cats are free to come and go as they please,
and some have chosen not to live with me - I gave up trying to force
them to stay long ago.
T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu)
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Since: Sep 30, 2003 Posts: 81
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:03 pm
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Ginger-lyn Summer wrote:
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> And as you said, you
> wouldn't want to break a little kids' heart.
Give me a break! Cats aren't children's toys and children don't have
the knowledge or the means to properly care for animals. Parents are
responsible for children's pets and, if this cat is the poster cat, the
parents were negligent in searching for the cat and in failing to neuter
and treat its earmites. There is no reason to believe they will behave
differently next time, if the cat is returned to them.
Let them buy their kid a plastic action figure and let the cat remain
with responsible caregivers.
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Since: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:22 pm
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frlpwr wrote in message <40F18800.5788.TakeThisOut@flash.net>...
>Give me a break! Cats aren't children's toys
Actually.... they are.
Other than costing additional money for health, food, and cleanliness, they
really serve no other purpose. >> Stay informed about: ethics: The stray that wasn't.. |
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