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(Msg. 46) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:22 am
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"STJensen" <RecreationalPoker.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message:
> How are they at being guard dogs? How they be at being left alone in
> a foreign guest room for the good part of a day and given the task of
> guarding it and not ripping it apart? How light of a sleeper are
> they? Could they help guard their master as he sleeps?
Danes can be protective. They're generally friendly dogs, but not fawning,
and definitely likely to step up to protect their humans in the face of
perceived danger. They're very in-tune with their humans and sensitive to
their moods. The rest of what you've described is pretty normal dog
behavior. Well trained, stable Danes are definitely capable of being
protective, but not likely to be aggressive towards all and sundry.
BTW, Dobermans also excel at this sort of thing, and you may want to add
Rottweilers to your list. Both are smart, trainable, loyal, protective.
> How much of a
> barker are they? If they're barkers, could one be realistically
> trained to at most give off one bark? They (sleuth and dog) are
> guests in a client's house so the dog cannot be barking up a storm all
> the time.
Not very barky dogs, but what barking they do can be pretty intimidating.
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(Msg. 47) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:24 am
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montana wildhack <mont....RemoveThis@wildhack.com.invalid> wrote:
> diddy <none> said:
> > A white doberman
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> I think he meant that the dog could be described as any color, but
> people would only imagine the dog looking one particular way.
Precisely what I was meaning. If I had a dog that is traditionally
thought of as a black dog (like a Dobie) be a white dog, I would have
to be constantly pointing this out to the reader or some readers will
naturally slip back to thinking it is a black dog next time I mention
the dog and then feel jarred when I later point out it is white. Not
to mention how new characters would be always remarking on the unusual
color of the dog which will get repetitive quickly.
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(Msg. 48) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:31 am
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"montana wildhack" <montana.DeleteThis@wildhack.com.invalid> wrote in message:
> Absolutely. People are intimidated by Dobes and Rotties. Their
> reputation precedes them, so there's no surprise element there. Ditto
> GSDs.
I figured GSDs are overexposed, and didn't mention them. I *really* like
the idea of a Giant Schnauzer, but they're not really for the faint of
heart, and between the heightened protective instincts, higher levels of
animal aggression and being a bit hard headed, I'm not sure they'd make
good, globe trotting, go anywhere, do anything type of dogs.
> Akitas are also on the list of aloof, one person, protective dogs AND
> they have a really interesting history in the US.
Animal aggression would be a major concern, as would the likelihood of being
seriously people un-friendly, I'd think. The ones I've met, I haven't been
comfortable with at all.
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(Msg. 49) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:31 am
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"Suja" <spanaval.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> spoke these words of wisdom in
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> Animal aggression would be a major concern, as would the likelihood of
> being seriously people un-friendly, I'd think. The ones I've met, I
> haven't been comfortable with at all.
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I concur with this experience >> Stay informed about: What dog breed would be good for a fictional sleuth? |
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:33 am
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ceb <ce... DeleteThis @nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> Shelly <she... DeleteThis @cat-sidh.net> wrote:
> > STJensen wrote:
> >> Yes, I know the Poodle doesn't have to have that silly puffy ball
> >> haircut, but it is viewed by a good chunk of men as a lady's dog.
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> > If your sleuth is a manly man (whatever the hell that is), he won't
> > care about other people's silly misperceptions. Besides, those
> > silly misperceptions could work to his advantage.
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> I always say: a man walking a toy dog is a man who's confident in his
> masculinity.
The dog needs to be viewed by the average reader as a good guard dog
and not a barker. Readers will not believe that a toy dog will
physically discourage an intruder or pose much of a threat to them. I
appreciate your thoughts. I'm just explaining what I'm seeking in a
dog breed for the sleuth.
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(Msg. 51) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:34 am
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(Msg. 52) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:36 am
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(Msg. 53) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:40 am
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(Msg. 54) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:40 am
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(Msg. 55) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:42 am
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"STJensen" <RecreationalPoker.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message:
> They still have too vicious of a reputation for what I seek. Deserved
> or not.
Which, in this case, works to your advantage. They may seem like big, scary
dogs, but aren't. Gives you the opportunity to introduce your stable, good
natured dog and make a case for how good genetics and good handling are part
of the equation of making a good dog a good dog. At the same time, the
baddies are unlikely to mess with your detective if they think, just by
looking at the dog, that it's likely to be a man eater.
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(Msg. 56) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:42 am
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"Suja" <spanaval.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> spoke these words of wisdom in
news:60rhjqF1s31s7U1@mid.individual.net:
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> "STJensen" <RecreationalPoker.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message:
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>> They still have too vicious of a reputation for what I seek. Deserved
>> or not.
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> Which, in this case, works to your advantage. They may seem like big,
> scary dogs, but aren't. Gives you the opportunity to introduce your
> stable, good natured dog and make a case for how good genetics and good
> handling are part of the equation of making a good dog a good dog. At
> the same time, the baddies are unlikely to mess with your detective if
> they think, just by looking at the dog, that it's likely to be a man
> eater.
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> Suja
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awww common, I really liked the nobility of the GD. I've been so impressed
with the breed.
However, I'm usually not a rottie fan, but at dog club the other night, I
watched a rottie, and`she had such a precious face. I must have been the
only one looking at her, because our eyes made contact, and her butt
started wiggling, her face softened, she bumped her mother's hand and said,
LOOK! That lady is looking at me!
I just melted.
I just had to go meet her. Everything about her was an open invitation.
Despite my dislike of the breed, despite my dislike of the massive jowls,
and short heads, despite my dislike of everything about the Rottweiler
breed, this little girl exuded charm that forced me over and admire her.
And I did, for the rest of the evening. She had a magnetic personality. >> Stay informed about: What dog breed would be good for a fictional sleuth? |
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(Msg. 57) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:43 am
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(Msg. 58) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:43 am
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montana wildhack <montana DeleteThis @wildhack.com.invalid> spoke these words of wisdom
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> On 2008-02-05 11:29:40 -0500, STJensen <RecreationalPoker DeleteThis @gmail.com>
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>> montana wildhack <mont... DeleteThis @wildhack.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> And one more thing: your guard dog should probably be a female dog.
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>> Why?
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> This has been a widely discussed topic in the dog behavior group and it
> seemed as thought there was a consensus that bitches are more serious
> (I understand this is a wide generalization) than males.
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But I find male dogs to be more HONEST dogs. Bitches are rock and roll
princesses. They want to suit themselves. Males serve YOU. I think this
tends to vary among breeds, and I don't have enough experiences with the
other breeds to make a authorative call. I did have a doberman of each
gender (one each) and far believed the male to be the more dependabble and
easier to live with. >> Stay informed about: What dog breed would be good for a fictional sleuth? |
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(Msg. 59) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:45 am
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(Msg. 60) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:51 am
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