Pitbull question

you would think the shelter would know better.... or is it some
place thats just wants the money?
"Michelle" <pennyshouse.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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: "Sew Like Crazy" <Sews64.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: > It sounds like she has he hands full already. Another reason
is the CATS.
: > Now some pitbulls get along with cats IF they were raised up
with them.
: Mine
: > can't be around them or things could turn ugly. A pitbull and
an
: aggressive
: > GSD is trouble in the making. Especially with an adopted dog
that is grown
: > already and set in it's ways. Why does she want one anyway.
:
: There are a lot of them in shelters in her area and in some
shelters they
: give them VERY little time to be placed, I advised that if she
really wants
: to help she should foster dogs giving them more time to find
homes.
: I think it would be a REALLY bad idea and could possibly
result in a
: return to the shelter at the very least...and I am of the
opinion that dogs
: need exercise etc. no matter how much room they have to run
(her yard is not
: fenced) and she lives in a rural area where a lot of log trucks
use the road
: in front of her home...
: I think her heart is in the right place I just really wish
she would
: listen to what I have suggested, either foster dogs or if she
INSISTS on
: having a pit going through a rescue where they are at least
temperament
: tested and handled by ppl who have experience with the breed..
: -M
:
:
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<I think her heart is in the right place I just really wish she would
listen to what I have suggested, either foster dogs or if she INSISTS on
having a pit going through a rescue where they are at least temperament
tested and handled by ppl who have experience with the breed..
              -M>



Another situation where a person does not care, or maybe just doesn't
understand enough to learn..gather facts...be responsible. This causes
ppl and pets to be so hurt...I'M NOT JUST TALKING PHYSICAL. I learned my
lesson the hard way. She is being "selfish"..just like I was. I could
never blame a person for "wanting" a pit-bull...but there is just so
much more to it than that. "Look before you leap." Tell her to look
HARD! The heart that gets broken won't be just her own...and...somebody
"could" get physically hurt...If she won't listen..tell her please...do
not bring a male pit there with that male GSD.

Barb..a lady that knows
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IME most shelters do not really screen some even use volunteers that have
little if any experience handling adoptions to run their mobile adoptions..
I think this is the main reason she is not considering using a breed rescue
as the screening process is what it should be at all places dealing with
animal adoption (not a complete piece of cake)..
I recently adopted a dog from the Espanola shelter and they did NO
screening I walked in filled out papers paid my $55 walked out with a dog
sad but true...
-Michelle


"Jokerpit" <BulldogJustice DeleteThis @pitbull.net> wrote in message
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> you would think the shelter would know better.... or is it some
> place thats just wants the money?
> "Michelle" <pennyshouse DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:XpSdnTOyy-cr6pDdRVn-uw@comcast.com...
> :
> : "Sew Like Crazy" <Sews64 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> : news:nYCdnbGDkvDC6ZDdU-KYkQ@texas.net...
> : > It sounds like she has he hands full already. Another reason
> is the CATS.
> : > Now some pitbulls get along with cats IF they were raised up
> with them.
> : Mine
> : > can't be around them or things could turn ugly. A pitbull and
> an
> : aggressive
> : > GSD is trouble in the making. Especially with an adopted dog
> that is grown
> : > already and set in it's ways. Why does she want one anyway.
> :
> : There are a lot of them in shelters in her area and in some
> shelters they
> : give them VERY little time to be placed, I advised that if she
> really wants
> : to help she should foster dogs giving them more time to find
> homes.
> : I think it would be a REALLY bad idea and could possibly
> result in a
> : return to the shelter at the very least...and I am of the
> opinion that dogs
> : need exercise etc. no matter how much room they have to run
> (her yard is not
> : fenced) and she lives in a rural area where a lot of log trucks
> use the road
> : in front of her home...
> : I think her heart is in the right place I just really wish
> she would
> : listen to what I have suggested, either foster dogs or if she
> INSISTS on
> : having a pit going through a rescue where they are at least
> temperament
> : tested and handled by ppl who have experience with the breed..
> : -M
> :
> :
>
>
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This woman is asking for serious problems. She has a human aggressive
dog on her hands as it is and she now wants to bring a pitbull into the
mix. Even if it is a very even tempered pitbull, it is not going to get
along with an aggressive male dog. It could very well turn into a blood
bath. I hope you can discourage her. At least ask her to do some
research into pitbulls. From what you have said I don't think she is a
very responsible dog owner and certainly does not have what it takes to
care for another dog.

Carolyn


Pitbull question

Group: alt.pets.dogs.pitbull Date: Tue, Jan 20, 2004, 8:42am (EST-2)
From: pennyshouse.RemoveThis@comcast.net (Michelle)
    A friend of mine is thinking about adopting a pitbull
(hopefully still thinking) I see this as a bad situation for a couple of
reasons and would like to hear the opinions of owners, First she has 2
other dogs a rottweiler (inside) and a White GSD (outside as it has
bitten her kids) she doesn't feel it is necessary to work her dogs as
she has over an acre and they get enough exercise there (she also has 4
horses on this property and a ton of cats that just run around). Her GSD
is an intact male the rotty is neutered, she has 3 kids ranging in ages
of 2 to 9 and she will not use a rescue as she feels they are *too
picky* about who they adopt to and expensive.
      All of these things scream *accident waiting to
happen, more bad press* to me am I overreacting? I also worry because
she said to me that her parents were irresponsible with the pit mix they
had years ago because they didn't try to "socialize the dog aggression
out of it at a young age"!!!!
                                            TIA
-M
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I have tried to explain to her she says she has done research (apparently
not enough) and I have sent her sites that I hoped would discourage her but
to no avail.. I e-mailed her and asked how the dog search was going but I
haven't heard back I keep my fingers crossed that she does not adopt any
dog...
She seems to think that she is a fine pet owner and that keeping the GSD
was in his best interest so he would not be put down I feel a breed rescue
would have been better and could have placed him in a home without kids, I
also think neutering may have helped as it was strictly a male dominance he
never did anything to her daughter.. he was also pretty young at the time
and has just been an outside dog since then (4+ yrs.)
I worry if she adopts another dog she will end up returning it to the
shelter or turning it into a locked-up outside dog too.
Michelle

"CAROLYN DEESE" <midgitdeese DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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This woman is asking for serious problems. She has a human aggressive
dog on her hands as it is and she now wants to bring a pitbull into the
mix. Even if it is a very even tempered pitbull, it is not going to get
along with an aggressive male dog. It could very well turn into a blood
bath. I hope you can discourage her. At least ask her to do some
research into pitbulls. From what you have said I don't think she is a
very responsible dog owner and certainly does not have what it takes to
care for another dog.

Carolyn


Pitbull question

Group: alt.pets.dogs.pitbull Date: Tue, Jan 20, 2004, 8:42am (EST-2)
From: pennyshouse DeleteThis @comcast.net (Michelle)
A friend of mine is thinking about adopting a pitbull
(hopefully still thinking) I see this as a bad situation for a couple of
reasons and would like to hear the opinions of owners, First she has 2
other dogs a rottweiler (inside) and a White GSD (outside as it has
bitten her kids) she doesn't feel it is necessary to work her dogs as
she has over an acre and they get enough exercise there (she also has 4
horses on this property and a ton of cats that just run around). Her GSD
is an intact male the rotty is neutered, she has 3 kids ranging in ages
of 2 to 9 and she will not use a rescue as she feels they are *too
picky* about who they adopt to and expensive.
All of these things scream *accident waiting to
happen, more bad press* to me am I overreacting? I also worry because
she said to me that her parents were irresponsible with the pit mix they
had years ago because they didn't try to "socialize the dog aggression
out of it at a young age"!!!!
TIA
-M
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3 dogs changes everything, PACK MENTALITY comes into play.

3 males is absolutely INSANE especially when the breeds are Rotties, GSD and
Bullys

The top 2 will fight to determine who will dominate the pack.

She is setting herself up to fail.


If you did a tiny bit more than send her links, it may help her to see the
bigger picture.
You could print out your research and give it to her.

Regards,

Russ

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"Michelle" <pennyshouse.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> I have tried to explain to her she says she has done research
(apparently
> not enough) and I have sent her sites that I hoped would discourage her
but
> to no avail.. I e-mailed her and asked how the dog search was going but I
> haven't heard back I keep my fingers crossed that she does not adopt any
> dog...
> She seems to think that she is a fine pet owner and that keeping the GSD
> was in his best interest so he would not be put down I feel a breed rescue
> would have been better and could have placed him in a home without kids, I
> also think neutering may have helped as it was strictly a male dominance
he
> never did anything to her daughter.. he was also pretty young at the time
> and has just been an outside dog since then (4+ yrs.)
> I worry if she adopts another dog she will end up returning it to the
> shelter or turning it into a locked-up outside dog too.
> Michelle
>
> "CAROLYN DEESE" <midgitdeese.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:14684-400DA506-460@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net...
> This woman is asking for serious problems. She has a human aggressive
> dog on her hands as it is and she now wants to bring a pitbull into the
> mix. Even if it is a very even tempered pitbull, it is not going to get
> along with an aggressive male dog. It could very well turn into a blood
> bath. I hope you can discourage her. At least ask her to do some
> research into pitbulls. From what you have said I don't think she is a
> very responsible dog owner and certainly does not have what it takes to
> care for another dog.
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> Pitbull question
>
> Group: alt.pets.dogs.pitbull Date: Tue, Jan 20, 2004, 8:42am (EST-2)
> From: pennyshouse.TakeThisOut@comcast.net (Michelle)
> A friend of mine is thinking about adopting a pitbull
> (hopefully still thinking) I see this as a bad situation for a couple of
> reasons and would like to hear the opinions of owners, First she has 2
> other dogs a rottweiler (inside) and a White GSD (outside as it has
> bitten her kids) she doesn't feel it is necessary to work her dogs as
> she has over an acre and they get enough exercise there (she also has 4
> horses on this property and a ton of cats that just run around). Her GSD
> is an intact male the rotty is neutered, she has 3 kids ranging in ages
> of 2 to 9 and she will not use a rescue as she feels they are *too
> picky* about who they adopt to and expensive.
> All of these things scream *accident waiting to
> happen, more bad press* to me am I overreacting? I also worry because
> she said to me that her parents were irresponsible with the pit mix they
> had years ago because they didn't try to "socialize the dog aggression
> out of it at a young age"!!!!
> TIA
> -M
>
>
>
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Yeah but a trip to WA to *hand* someone research is out of the question
that would be a hefty trip. I am going to call the shelters in her area and
find out what their policy is on adoptions..
Michelle




"Russ" <russ(remove)@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> 3 dogs changes everything, PACK MENTALITY comes into play.
>
> 3 males is absolutely INSANE especially when the breeds are Rotties, GSD
and
> Bullys
>
> The top 2 will fight to determine who will dominate the pack.
>
> She is setting herself up to fail.
>
>
> If you did a tiny bit more than send her links, it may help her to see the
> bigger picture.
> You could print out your research and give it to her.
>
> Regards,
>
> Russ
>
> --
>
>
>
> "Michelle" <pennyshouse.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:y8ednX8SYYoZJZDdRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> >
> > I have tried to explain to her she says she has done research
> (apparently
> > not enough) and I have sent her sites that I hoped would discourage her
> but
> > to no avail.. I e-mailed her and asked how the dog search was going but
I
> > haven't heard back I keep my fingers crossed that she does not adopt any
> > dog...
> > She seems to think that she is a fine pet owner and that keeping the
GSD
> > was in his best interest so he would not be put down I feel a breed
rescue
> > would have been better and could have placed him in a home without kids,
I
> > also think neutering may have helped as it was strictly a male dominance
> he
> > never did anything to her daughter.. he was also pretty young at the
time
> > and has just been an outside dog since then (4+ yrs.)
> > I worry if she adopts another dog she will end up returning it to the
> > shelter or turning it into a locked-up outside dog too.
> > Michelle
> >
> > "CAROLYN DEESE" <midgitdeese.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:14684-400DA506-460@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net...
> > This woman is asking for serious problems. She has a human aggressive
> > dog on her hands as it is and she now wants to bring a pitbull into the
> > mix. Even if it is a very even tempered pitbull, it is not going to get
> > along with an aggressive male dog. It could very well turn into a blood
> > bath. I hope you can discourage her. At least ask her to do some
> > research into pitbulls. From what you have said I don't think she is a
> > very responsible dog owner and certainly does not have what it takes to
> > care for another dog.
> >
> > Carolyn
> >
> >
> > Pitbull question
> >
> > Group: alt.pets.dogs.pitbull Date: Tue, Jan 20, 2004, 8:42am (EST-2)
> > From: pennyshouse.RemoveThis@comcast.net (Michelle)
> > A friend of mine is thinking about adopting a pitbull
> > (hopefully still thinking) I see this as a bad situation for a couple of
> > reasons and would like to hear the opinions of owners, First she has 2
> > other dogs a rottweiler (inside) and a White GSD (outside as it has
> > bitten her kids) she doesn't feel it is necessary to work her dogs as
> > she has over an acre and they get enough exercise there (she also has 4
> > horses on this property and a ton of cats that just run around). Her GSD
> > is an intact male the rotty is neutered, she has 3 kids ranging in ages
> > of 2 to 9 and she will not use a rescue as she feels they are *too
> > picky* about who they adopt to and expensive.
> > All of these things scream *accident waiting to
> > happen, more bad press* to me am I overreacting? I also worry because
> > she said to me that her parents were irresponsible with the pit mix they
> > had years ago because they didn't try to "socialize the dog aggression
> > out of it at a young age"!!!!
> > TIA
> > -M
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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"Tracy Doyle" <tracy.DeleteThis@unspam.rag-time.com> wrote in message
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> Most won't place a pit
> at all in a multi-dog household.

> This sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

> Heck... I've got one pit bull here with three other dogs and haven't had
> any trouble, but

> It isn't fair to set them up for failure.
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Michelle wrote:
>
> "Tracy Doyle" <tracy.DeleteThis@unspam.rag-time.com> wrote in message
> news:400E5F6E.BAE4C63A@unspam.rag-time.com...

> > Heck... I've got one pit bull here with three other dogs and haven't had
> > any trouble, but as much as I love this dog and admire the breed, I
> > won't be having another one until there's room and I can do justice to
> > the dog. It isn't fair to set them up for failure.
> >
> That pretty much goes against everything you just said, guess I will not
> be forwarding this one to her to try to change her mind.
> Michelle


And you probably shouldn't - I didn't include the lengths I go through
to keep aggression to a minimum. "Supervise and separate" are a way of
life around here. I work at home, so I don't have to worry about my dogs
going long periods of time crated, kenneled or loose together. All have
been to obedience training and have been well-socialized. But I do an
incredible amount of management - I wouldn't describe myself as the
"average" home. There are certain toys and chewies I just can't leave
laying around - about the only safe things are hollow natural bones and
kongs and a couple other real tough toys. My dogs are trained not to
resource guard or harass each other. I don't let them "work things out
themselves." I mean, I have really invested a lot of time and energy
into maintaining a peaceful household - it didn't just "happen."

Good luck with your friend!

:-)

Tracy
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People do NOT understand what it takes to live like this unless they do it
for more than a week. I've done it too...three time.... and don't ever want
to have to do it again but I know I will have to! Hell...I guess in a mild
way I'm on my forth time! lol The risk is always present doing things like
this...if you let your guard or senses down for split second, it's all it
takes!
Sandra

"Tracy Doyle" <tracy RemoveThis @unspam.rag-time.com> wrote in message >
>And you probably shouldn't - I didn't include the lengths I go through
> to keep aggression to a minimum. "Supervise and separate" are a way of
> life around here. I work at home, so I don't have to worry about my dogs
> going long periods of time crated, kenneled or loose together. All have
> been to obedience training and have been well-socialized. But I do an
> incredible amount of management - I wouldn't describe myself as the
> "average" home. There are certain toys and chewies I just can't leave
> laying around - about the only safe things are hollow natural bones and
> kongs and a couple other real tough toys. My dogs are trained not to
> resource guard or harass each other. I don't let them "work things out
> themselves." I mean, I have really invested a lot of time and energy
> into maintaining a peaceful household - it didn't just "happen."
>
> Good luck with your friend!
>
> :-)
>
> Tracy
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