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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 3:20 pm
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I have a marooned bellied conure very healthy, happy, and very loving with
me.he/she is now 6years and was hand reared
I am now working longer and want to know if I would be ok to get another
bird maybe the same type to keep it company, I know about territory problems
and own cages etc
my problem is that its never seen or been in any other birds company, and if
I get one she may dislike it leaving me with another problem. any ideas if
you know what type of species this type of conure gets on with. I am a great
animal lover.and would hate to cause any emotional problems for my(polly) or
any other bird i may buy.
thankyou in advance
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 3:20 pm
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Getting another bird and keeping it in another cage is really no problem.
The only thing you have to do is follow the pecking order. Your first bird
gets everything first. Food, water, loving, and being let out of the cage.
If you pay more attention to the new bird, especially if it is a baby and
you are hand feeding it, then the older bird will say where is my time.
What about me. Yes they are intelligent and can tell when they are being
ignored or have not had the time that they normally get. Birds are
creatures of habit and if you keep up the same things that you have always
done with your first bird, then I see no problems with getting another one.

Tony


" deggers" <degsi316.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I have a marooned bellied conure very healthy, happy, and very loving
with
> me.he/she is now 6years and was hand reared
> I am now working longer and want to know if I would be ok to get another
> bird maybe the same type to keep it company, I know about territory
problems
> and own cages etc
> my problem is that its never seen or been in any other birds company, and
if
> I get one she may dislike it leaving me with another problem. any ideas
if
> you know what type of species this type of conure gets on with. I am a
great
> animal lover.and would hate to cause any emotional problems for my(polly)
or
> any other bird i may buy.
> thankyou in advance
> degsi316.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk
>
>

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:27 pm
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"prefrontal lobotomy" <liqbbs.DeleteThis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Getting another bird and keeping it in another cage is really no problem.
> The only thing you have to do is follow the pecking order. Your first
bird
> gets everything first. Food, water, loving, and being let out of the
cage.

Bullshit.



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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:40 am
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No you are full of bullshit. Do you even own any birds? Probably not.
"Mr Jackass" <misterjynx DeleteThis @hotyour.attitudemail.com> wrote in message
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> "prefrontal lobotomy" <liqbbs DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> > Getting another bird and keeping it in another cage is really no
problem.
> > The only thing you have to do is follow the pecking order. Your first
> bird
> > gets everything first. Food, water, loving, and being let out of the
> cage.
>
> Bullshit.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 4:24 pm
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"Liquid farter" <liqbbs RemoveThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> No you are full of bullshit. Do you even own any birds? Probably not.

The psyche of a bird is not nearly as delicately fragile as you seem to
believe.
Whenever I bring a new bird home it does get a lot more attention than the
birds that I've had for a while- probably 10X more. Do my other birds act
any differently? No.

So the answer is yes, I do have birds. Currently I have nine of them.
During the many years that I have owned birds I have educated myself on the
subject of pet birds. I 've learned many many things that have turned out
to be old misconceptions that probably came from old (and not so old) books
but are still being puked up by people who don't know any better and don't
seem to want to. I then take the time to learn what the current facts and
theories are.

My suggestion for you is to stop vomiting up outdated misinformation. When
people inform you that your information is not correct use it as an
opportunity to learn rather than as an opportunity to show your bad
temperament.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:08 pm
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"MrJ" <misterjynx DeleteThis @hotyour.attitudemail.com> wrote in message
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> "Liquid farter" <liqbbs DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:UIOUa.3815$jI6.2470@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com...
> >
> >
> > No you are full of bullshit. Do you even own any birds? Probably not.
>
> The psyche of a bird is not nearly as delicately fragile as you seem to
> believe.
> Whenever I bring a new bird home it does get a lot more attention than the
> birds that I've had for a while- probably 10X more. Do my other birds act
> any differently? No.

Do you change your routine, No. The new bird may get more attention but
they expect that. Try changing your routine and see if that doesn't cause
some problems. I guarantee it will, and I don't recommend that you do it.
By routine. You have a certain way you feed, or take out the birds. Birds
do know what babies are and they know that a baby requires more attention
then them. Don't think that they are stupid, they know exactly when its
time to eat, when its time to come out, and know what gets your attention.

>
> So the answer is yes, I do have birds. Currently I have nine of them.
> During the many years that I have owned birds I have educated myself on
the
> subject of pet birds. I 've learned many many things that have turned out
> to be old misconceptions that probably came from old (and not so old)
books
> but are still being puked up by people who don't know any better and don't
> seem to want to. I then take the time to learn what the current facts and
> theories are.

What Facts?, and Theories, are just that Theories, unproven, untested, and
definately not recommended to be relied upon. And yes 99% of the OLD books
that are out there, are bunk, lies, and misconceptions that have been handed
down for generations.

Whatever has been tried and found true is a Fact. Whatever babblings you
put down are Theory and need to be proven. Put the facts down, maybe I will
learn something, but your words are just that words, and as my Yellow Nape
would say, "BLAH BLAH BLAH"

>
> My suggestion for you is to stop vomiting up outdated misinformation.
When
> people inform you that your information is not correct use it as an
> opportunity to learn rather than as an opportunity to show your bad
> temperament.
>

I only give back what I recieve. As my Poem

"Peaceful Transition" states.

Eye for an Eye and Tooth for a Tooth,
You come against me and I come against you.
You piss me off and I piss off you.
Its only fair and that's the truth.
So treat me like, I would treat you.
And you won't come out looking like a fool.


Tony



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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:55 pm
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"Liquid Memory" <liqbbs DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Do you change your routine, No. The new bird may get more attention but
> they expect that. Try changing your routine and see if that doesn't cause
> some problems. I guarantee it will, and I don't recommend that you do it.
> By routine. You have a certain way you feed, or take out the birds.
Birds
> do know what babies are and they know that a baby requires more attention
> then them. Don't think that they are stupid, they know exactly when its
> time to eat, when its time to come out, and know what gets your attention.
>

Giving the vast majority of my attention to a new bird is a drastic change
in routine.


Wait just a minute here. In your initial response, you said "Your first
bird gets everything first. Food, water, loving, and being let out of the
cage. If you pay more attention to the new bird, especially if it is a baby
and you are hand feeding it, then the older bird will say where is my time.
What about me."

Your latest drivel is now contradictory to your first puddle of vomit.
A) if it is a baby and you are hand feeding it, then the older bird will say
where is my time. What about me.
B) Birds do know what babies are and they know that a baby requires more
attention then them.

Choose one. It can't be both ways.

>
> What Facts?, and Theories, are just that Theories, unproven, untested, and
> definately not recommended to be relied upon. And yes 99% of the OLD
books
> that are out there, are bunk, lies, and misconceptions that have been
handed
> down for generations.
>

What facts? are you serious? Do you really think that birds are so
enigmatic that there are absolutely no known facts that apply to birds?

Perhaps I should have said 'currently accepted ideas, principles, and
practices' rather than theories.


> Whatever has been tried and found true is a Fact.

Not necessarily.

> Whatever babblings you
> put down are Theory and need to be proven. Put the facts down, maybe I
will
> learn something, but your words are just that words, and as my Yellow Nape
> would say, "BLAH BLAH BLAH"
>

You said "Getting another bird and keeping it in another cage is really no
problem. The only thing you have to do is follow the pecking order. Your
first bird gets everything first. Food, water, loving, and being let out of
the cage.

That' not a fact, but you seem to be trying to pass it off as one. The FACT
that my own personal experience is contrary to what you say proves that it
can not be a fact.

>
> I only give back what I recieve.
>

Then you should know that all the useless information that was given to you
about birds by God only knows who, isn't doing any of it's new recipients
any good either.


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 9:10 pm
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"MrJ" <misterjynx.TakeThisOut@hotyour.attitudemail.com> wrote in message
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>
> That' not a fact, but you seem to be trying to pass it off as one. The
FACT
> that my own personal experience is contrary to what you say proves that it
> can not be a fact.
>
And so your own personal experience makes it the norm? If 100 people are
telling me that it does happen and I have seen it in my own birds, and you
being just 1 person tell me that it isn't so. I would tend to believe that
it can happen and that you are very blessed with your birds. So what is the
problem?

Tony


> >
> > I only give back what I recieve.
> >
>
> Then you should know that all the useless information that was given to
you
> about birds by God only knows who, isn't doing any of it's new recipients
> any good either.
>
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:44 pm
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"Liquid Memory" <liqbbs DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "MrJ" <misterjynx DeleteThis @hotyour.attitudemail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > That' not a fact, but you seem to be trying to pass it off as one. The
> FACT
> > that my own personal experience is contrary to what you say proves that
it
> > can not be a fact.
> >


> And so your own personal experience makes it the norm?

No. See how easily you assume the wrong thing.

> If 100 people are
> telling me that it does happen and I have seen it in my own birds, and you
> being just 1 person tell me that it isn't so. I would tend to believe
that
> it can happen and that you are very blessed with your birds. So what is
the
> problem?
>
> Tony
>
>

When a bird is put in a situation that could cause it to become "jealous" it
may react with "jealousy" and it may react just as readily with no reaction
at all. To imply that a bird WILL act a certain way in a given situation
when there are other options is just plain stupid unless it's your bird and
you know how your bird reacts to the specific situation.

Your advice (since you insist on giving it) would be less criticizable if
you gave it in more general terms and as possibilities rather than using the
"this is how it is" approach.


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