Too cold for dogs

"Peter" wrote in message

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>>> Gretchen pictures-
>>> http://oslofleamarket.com/GRETCHEN/
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>> What beautiful dogs! I take it Gretchen is the black one?
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> You are correct! Thanks for the compliment, I will relay it to her 8-)


Please include a treat with my compliment then! ;) And one for the
large, mareled looking dog too. While Gretchen has a face to die for, I'm
a bit drawn to 'the big guy'. Would like to hear more about him too??? He
is gorgeous. That settles it, someday I just have to own a Great Dane.
I've coveted one for years and years


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>>My sister lives just north of Minneapolis. You have been having rather
>>cold weather up your way. Are you as far north as International Falls?
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> A bit south of there and much further west. No colder really than any
> other winter,
> It's all just part of the ambiance of MN.


From reading your other posts, it sounds like you live in a wonderfully
peaceful little town. I envy you, winter is my favorite season. Not much
winter in the south, unfortunately. :( I have a dear friend in Idaho who
sends me wonderful photo's of new-fallen snow weighing down the limbs on
huge evergreen trees. So peaceful and pristine.


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>>Beautiful country up your way. I do miss the Midwest, originally from
>>Wisconsin. Once again, you have absolutely gorgeous dogs.
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>> best,
>>
>> td
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> thanks for the kind response,
> Peter


You're welcome, it certainly is hard to resist photos of such beautiful
dogs. I truly have always wanted to own a Great Dane. My own dogs have
always been mutts, rescues, and I'm fine with that. But when ever I see a
Great Dane, I feel a yearning. I see lots of other dogs I think are
beautiful, cute, funny, wonderful, but it's only the Great Dane that brings
out that yearning to have one in me.

best,

td
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"tiny dancer" wrote in message

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> "Peter" wrote in message
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>>>> Gretchen pictures-
>>>> http://oslofleamarket.com/GRETCHEN/
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>>>
>>> What beautiful dogs! I take it Gretchen is the black one?
>>
>> You are correct! Thanks for the compliment, I will relay it to her 8-)
>
>
> Please include a treat with my compliment then! ;) And one for the
> large, mareled looking dog too. While Gretchen has a face to die for,
> I'm a bit drawn to 'the big guy'. Would like to hear more about him
> too??? He is gorgeous. That settles it, someday I just have to own a
> Great Dane. I've coveted one for years and years
>
The other dog in the pictures (Deisel) is a brindle dane. He is the sire of
Gretchens upcomming litter. The pictures are from their 1st meeting.
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>>>My sister lives just north of Minneapolis. You have been having rather
>>>cold weather up your way. Are you as far north as International Falls?
>>
>> A bit south of there and much further west. No colder really than any
>> other winter,
>> It's all just part of the ambiance of MN.
>
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> From reading your other posts, it sounds like you live in a wonderfully
> peaceful little town. I envy you, winter is my favorite season. Not much
> winter in the south, unfortunately. :( I have a dear friend in Idaho
> who sends me wonderful photo's of new-fallen snow weighing down the limbs
> on huge evergreen trees. So peaceful and pristine.
>
Peaceful, very. Pristine, well it's not a city, but it's a long way from
pristine.
We're an agricultural community. Between 2 and 3 ft. of snow on the ground
right now and very few days above 0 degrees. Makes for some rather chilly
walks.
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>>>Beautiful country up your way. I do miss the Midwest, originally from
>>>Wisconsin. Once again, you have absolutely gorgeous dogs.
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>>> best,
>>>
>>> td
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>>>>
>> thanks for the kind response,
>> Peter
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> You're welcome, it certainly is hard to resist photos of such beautiful
> dogs. I truly have always wanted to own a Great Dane. My own dogs have
> always been mutts, rescues, and I'm fine with that. But when ever I see a
> Great Dane, I feel a yearning. I see lots of other dogs I think are
> beautiful, cute, funny, wonderful, but it's only the Great Dane that
> brings out that yearning to have one in me.
>
> best,
>
> td
Growing up we always had a few dogs in the house. Always mixed breeds.
My 1st dane was a shelter dog, a dane german shepard mix. I fell in love
with
danes at that point. I joined a dane rescue shortly after. Gretchen is my
5th
great dane since. She is my 1st AKC papered, purchased dog.
For the most part, the puppies will be going to family members, so they
should
be able to see each other regularly. (ultrasound is on 2/25/08)
Danes are the finest breed I have yet to encounter. They combine the
strength
and intimidation of a rottweiler, the grace of a greyhound, the nobility of
a lion
with the temprement of a labrador.(just my opinion 8-)
Peter
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"Peter" wrote in message

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> Growing up we always had a few dogs in the house. Always mixed breeds.
> My 1st dane was a shelter dog, a dane german shepard mix. I fell in love
> with
> danes at that point. I joined a dane rescue shortly after. Gretchen is my
> 5th
> great dane since. She is my 1st AKC papered, purchased dog.
> For the most part, the puppies will be going to family members, so they
> should
> be able to see each other regularly. (ultrasound is on 2/25/08)
> Danes are the finest breed I have yet to encounter. They combine the
> strength
> and intimidation of a rottweiler, the grace of a greyhound, the nobility
> of a lion
> with the temprement of a labrador.(just my opinion 8-)
> Peter


That settles it, sounds like exactly what I'm looking for, especially the
temperament of a lab. :)

Your description is perfect. Please let us know what the ultrasound shows.
I am now anxious to hear all about these new pups, and go so far as to
demand photo's of them! :-)

The one thing that has been holding me back all these years is the shorter
life-span of Dane's. :( I get so attached to my dogs, and want them around
as long as possible.


td
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"tiny dancer" wrote in message:

> That settles it, sounds like exactly what I'm looking for, especially the
> temperament of a lab. :)

A good, well-bred Dane most certainly does not have the temperament of a
Lab. I wouldn't have one if they did.

Suja
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"tiny dancer" spoke these words of
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> "Peter" wrote in message
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>> "tiny dancer" wrote in message
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>> Growing up we always had a few dogs in the house. Always mixed breeds.
>> My 1st dane was a shelter dog, a dane german shepard mix. I fell in
>> love with
>> danes at that point. I joined a dane rescue shortly after. Gretchen is
>> my 5th
>> great dane since. She is my 1st AKC papered, purchased dog.
>> For the most part, the puppies will be going to family members, so they
>> should
>> be able to see each other regularly. (ultrasound is on 2/25/08)
>> Danes are the finest breed I have yet to encounter. They combine the
>> strength
>> and intimidation of a rottweiler, the grace of a greyhound, the
>> nobility of a lion
>> with the temprement of a labrador.(just my opinion 8-)
>> Peter
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> That settles it, sounds like exactly what I'm looking for, especially
> the temperament of a lab. :)
>
> Your description is perfect. Please let us know what the ultrasound
> shows. I am now anxious to hear all about these new pups, and go so far
> as to demand photo's of them! :-)
>
> The one thing that has been holding me back all these years is the
> shorter life-span of Dane's. :( I get so attached to my dogs, and want
> them around as long as possible.
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> td
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TD

I hope you don't go so far as to get one of these horridly bred, poorly
thought out breedings. If you want a Dane, get a rescue if you want shoddy
breeding. (You might get lucky and get something really carefully bred!)

Or if you want a puppy, don't encourage poor breedings by supporting them.
We can find you a good breeder! Just ask.

But encouraging and showing interest in this abysmally bred, poorly thought
out breeding, just does not do a breed you claim to LOVE any justice.
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"diddy" <none> wrote in message:

> I hope you don't go so far as to get one of these horridly bred, poorly
> thought out breedings. If you want a Dane, get a rescue if you want shoddy
> breeding. (You might get lucky and get something really carefully bred!)
>
> Or if you want a puppy, don't encourage poor breedings by supporting them.
> We can find you a good breeder! Just ask.
>
> But encouraging and showing interest in this abysmally bred, poorly
thought
> out breeding, just does not do a breed you claim to LOVE any justice.

Thank you, Diddy. There are more Danes in rescue than are good homes for
them, and they are really not the easiest of dogs to find good homes for.
Their dietary requirements, especially in puppyhood, are a bit different
from norm, they are prone to orthopedic issues, there are serious cardiac
issues that cause them to die so, so young, just due to the size, the cost
of *everything* is higher, etc.

Suja
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"tiny dancer" spoke these words of
wisdom in

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> "Suja" wrote in message
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>> "diddy" <none> wrote in message:
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>>> I hope you don't go so far as to get one of these horridly bred,
>>> poorly thought out breedings. If you want a Dane, get a rescue if you
>>> want shoddy
>>> breeding. (You might get lucky and get something really carefully
>>> bred!)
>>>
>>> Or if you want a puppy, don't encourage poor breedings by supporting
>>> them.
>>> We can find you a good breeder! Just ask.
>>>
>>> But encouraging and showing interest in this abysmally bred, poorly
>> thought
>>> out breeding, just does not do a breed you claim to LOVE any justice.
>>
>> Thank you, Diddy. There are more Danes in rescue than are good homes
>> for them, and they are really not the easiest of dogs to find good
>> homes for. Their dietary requirements, especially in puppyhood, are a
>> bit different from norm, they are prone to orthopedic issues, there are
>> serious cardiac issues that cause them to die so, so young, just due
>> to the size, the cost
>> of *everything* is higher, etc.
>>
>> Suja
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> Diddy & Suja,
>
> Were I to get a Great Dane, I would go the rescue route. Never having
> owned a Dane, I would want one from someone who had fostered the dog
> themselves and could advise me on the temperment of the dog I am taking
> on. Someone who was able to fit a particular dog to my own life
> circumstances. I feel certain most breed specific rescues, want to
> place a dog with the right person for that dog. And also, good breed
> specific rescues, would offer mentoring after placement were I to have
> any problems, issues or questions. Those are all things I would be
> interested in finding out ahead of time. Right now, I'm still too busy
> helping my daughter with the grandsons and all the dogs we already have
> between us. I'm thinking ahead a year or two, to when the twins begin
> school full time and I have much more flexibility with my own schedule.
>
Your "Yay, rah... PUPPPIES!!!" attitude and encouraging interest in the
ultrasound on this abysmally bred litter, and supporting this person in
their breeding, in spite of nothing positive offered,or that they did
anything responsibly, including all indications of inappropriate
temperament being present, is what really bothered me.
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Suja wrote:

> "diddy" <none> wrote in message:
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>>I hope you don't go so far as to get one of these horridly bred, poorly
>>thought out breedings. If you want a Dane, get a rescue if you want shoddy
>>breeding. (You might get lucky and get something really carefully bred!)
>>
>>Or if you want a puppy, don't encourage poor breedings by supporting them.
>>We can find you a good breeder! Just ask.
>>
>>But encouraging and showing interest in this abysmally bred, poorly
>
> thought
>
>>out breeding, just does not do a breed you claim to LOVE any justice.
>
>
> Thank you, Diddy. There are more Danes in rescue than are good homes for
> them, and they are really not the easiest of dogs to find good homes for.
> Their dietary requirements, especially in puppyhood, are a bit different
> from norm, they are prone to orthopedic issues, there are serious cardiac
> issues that cause them to die so, so young, just due to the size, the cost
> of *everything* is higher, etc.


Our next-door neighbors took in a female GD. Her owner was divorcing
and as a firefighter she was away from home for 24 hour stretches. She
understood the risk of free-feeding this bloat-prone breed and came to
the conclusion that Macey should go to someone who could take proper
care of her.

I like(d) Macey. She'd stand up against the fence and WOOF you upside
the head if you were mowing the fence line and neglected to pay her
proper tribute (proper tribute consisting of neck scratches and/or
throws of a ball). I gave her one of Zane's popped basketballs and she
and Zane would run the fence together, deflated roundballs clenched in
their teeth.

But I haven't seen her in... What? A week? Two weeks? Her ball is
just laying in the middle of the yard. I still see the little one,
Beau, running the fence with my Cooper. But no Macey. I'm afraid to ask.
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"Suja" wrote in message

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> "diddy" <none> wrote in message:
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>> I hope you don't go so far as to get one of these horridly bred, poorly
>> thought out breedings. If you want a Dane, get a rescue if you want
>> shoddy
>> breeding. (You might get lucky and get something really carefully bred!)
>>
>> Or if you want a puppy, don't encourage poor breedings by supporting
>> them.
>> We can find you a good breeder! Just ask.
>>
>> But encouraging and showing interest in this abysmally bred, poorly
> thought
>> out breeding, just does not do a breed you claim to LOVE any justice.
>
> Thank you, Diddy. There are more Danes in rescue than are good homes for
> them, and they are really not the easiest of dogs to find good homes for.
> Their dietary requirements, especially in puppyhood, are a bit different
> from norm, they are prone to orthopedic issues, there are serious cardiac
> issues that cause them to die so, so young, just due to the size, the
> cost
> of *everything* is higher, etc.
>
> Suja

Diddy & Suja,

Were I to get a Great Dane, I would go the rescue route. Never having owned
a Dane, I would want one from someone who had fostered the dog themselves
and could advise me on the temperment of the dog I am taking on. Someone
who was able to fit a particular dog to my own life circumstances. I feel
certain most breed specific rescues, want to place a dog with the right
person for that dog. And also, good breed specific rescues, would offer
mentoring after placement were I to have any problems, issues or questions.
Those are all things I would be interested in finding out ahead of time.
Right now, I'm still too busy helping my daughter with the grandsons and
all the dogs we already have between us. I'm thinking ahead a year or two,
to when the twins begin school full time and I have much more flexibility
with my own schedule.

As an aside, I don't know if you followed Kali's puppies placement or not,
but three of the pups were placed with people acquainted with each other.
Two with adult brother/sister families, and one to a friend of the *sister*.
My daughter advised them as to which puppy she thought would fit in their
own individual life situation best, and they all contacted her afterwards to
compliment her on her astute placement skills. Each of them thought she had
recommended the perfect dog for themselves. Since they all know and
associate with each other, and get the puppies together on occasion, they
themselves could appreciate that although they loved all three dogs, they
felt that the one recommended to them, was the perfect dog for their
situation. My daughter was quite proud to hear that feedback.

td



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"diddy" <none> wrote in message

> "tiny dancer" spoke these words of
> wisdom in
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>> "Suja" wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "diddy" <none> wrote in message:
>>>
>>>> I hope you don't go so far as to get one of these horridly bred,
>>>> poorly thought out breedings. If you want a Dane, get a rescue if you
>>>> want shoddy
>>>> breeding. (You might get lucky and get something really carefully
>>>> bred!)
>>>>
>>>> Or if you want a puppy, don't encourage poor breedings by supporting
>>>> them.
>>>> We can find you a good breeder! Just ask.
>>>>
>>>> But encouraging and showing interest in this abysmally bred, poorly
>>> thought
>>>> out breeding, just does not do a breed you claim to LOVE any justice.
>>>
>>> Thank you, Diddy. There are more Danes in rescue than are good homes
>>> for them, and they are really not the easiest of dogs to find good
>>> homes for. Their dietary requirements, especially in puppyhood, are a
>>> bit different from norm, they are prone to orthopedic issues, there are
>>> serious cardiac issues that cause them to die so, so young, just due
>>> to the size, the cost
>>> of *everything* is higher, etc.
>>>
>>> Suja
>>
>> Diddy & Suja,
>>
>> Were I to get a Great Dane, I would go the rescue route. Never having
>> owned a Dane, I would want one from someone who had fostered the dog
>> themselves and could advise me on the temperment of the dog I am taking
>> on. Someone who was able to fit a particular dog to my own life
>> circumstances. I feel certain most breed specific rescues, want to
>> place a dog with the right person for that dog. And also, good breed
>> specific rescues, would offer mentoring after placement were I to have
>> any problems, issues or questions. Those are all things I would be
>> interested in finding out ahead of time. Right now, I'm still too busy
>> helping my daughter with the grandsons and all the dogs we already have
>> between us. I'm thinking ahead a year or two, to when the twins begin
>> school full time and I have much more flexibility with my own schedule.
>>
> Your "Yay, rah... PUPPPIES!!!" attitude and encouraging interest in the
> ultrasound on this abysmally bred litter, and supporting this person in
> their breeding, in spite of nothing positive offered,or that they did
> anything responsibly, including all indications of inappropriate
> temperament being present, is what really bothered me.


The dog is already pregnant. Would you prefer I say 'get that dog an
abortion immediately?'





td
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Kathleen spoke these words of wisdom in


> Suja wrote:
>
>> "diddy" <none> wrote in message:
>>
>>
>>>I hope you don't go so far as to get one of these horridly bred, poorly
>>>thought out breedings. If you want a Dane, get a rescue if you want
>>>shoddy breeding. (You might get lucky and get something really
>>>carefully bred!)
>>>
>>>Or if you want a puppy, don't encourage poor breedings by supporting
>>>them. We can find you a good breeder! Just ask.
>>>
>>>But encouraging and showing interest in this abysmally bred, poorly
>>
>> thought
>>
>>>out breeding, just does not do a breed you claim to LOVE any justice.
>>
>>
>> Thank you, Diddy. There are more Danes in rescue than are good homes
>> for them, and they are really not the easiest of dogs to find good
>> homes for. Their dietary requirements, especially in puppyhood, are a
>> bit different from norm, they are prone to orthopedic issues, there are
>> serious cardiac issues that cause them to die so, so young, just due
>> to the size, the cost of *everything* is higher, etc.
>
>
> Our next-door neighbors took in a female GD. Her owner was divorcing
> and as a firefighter she was away from home for 24 hour stretches. She
> understood the risk of free-feeding this bloat-prone breed and came to
> the conclusion that Macey should go to someone who could take proper
> care of her.
>
> I like(d) Macey. She'd stand up against the fence and WOOF you upside
> the head if you were mowing the fence line and neglected to pay her
> proper tribute (proper tribute consisting of neck scratches and/or
> throws of a ball). I gave her one of Zane's popped basketballs and she
> and Zane would run the fence together, deflated roundballs clenched in
> their teeth.
>
> But I haven't seen her in... What? A week? Two weeks? Her ball is
> just laying in the middle of the yard. I still see the little one,
> Beau, running the fence with my Cooper. But no Macey. I'm afraid to
> ask.
>
>

YIKES!!
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"Peter" spoke these words of wisdom in


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> "diddy" <none> wrote in message
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>> Your "Yay, rah... PUPPPIES!!!" attitude and encouraging interest in the
>> ultrasound on this abysmally bred litter, and supporting this person in
>> their breeding, in spite of nothing positive offered,or that they did
>> anything responsibly, including all indications of inappropriate
>> temperament being present, is what really bothered me.
>
> OK diddy, perhaps we should start again. I'll assume your recent posts
> do

OK..
Start over.

OFA and CERF #'s please?
That's a GREAT place to start.
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Kathleen wrote:
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> Our next-door neighbors took in a female GD. Her owner was divorcing
> and as a firefighter she was away from home for 24 hour stretches. She
> understood the risk of free-feeding this bloat-prone breed and came to
> the conclusion that Macey should go to someone who could take proper
> care of her.
>
> I like(d) Macey. She'd stand up against the fence and WOOF you upside
> the head if you were mowing the fence line and neglected to pay her
> proper tribute (proper tribute consisting of neck scratches and/or
> throws of a ball). I gave her one of Zane's popped basketballs and she
> and Zane would run the fence together, deflated roundballs clenched in
> their teeth.
>
> But I haven't seen her in... What? A week? Two weeks? Her ball is
> just laying in the middle of the yard. I still see the little one,
> Beau, running the fence with my Cooper. But no Macey. I'm afraid to ask.


I hope you ask. It could be something innocent, a trip with a friend or
a visit to a fire station. (There's someone there 24 hours a day,
right?) If she's sick, that might be recoverable too, something where
she hurt a leg, can't get out, but will be fine. If something horrible
has happened, well, there's evil in the world. But I usually find
knowing better than not knowing.


--Lia
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