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Nathan Otis

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:08 pm
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Our 13wk female Weimer has taken to licking and even grinding her teeth on
the stones we use around the house as door stops... I've known dogs to do
this, but should I stop her? Can she hurt herself (ie: her teeth)?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:30 pm
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> Our 13wk female Weimer has taken to licking and even grinding her teeth on
> the stones we use around the house as door stops... I've known dogs to do
> this, but should I stop her?

Yes.

>Can she hurt herself (ie: her teeth)?

Yes. Add to that an obstruction in her gut if she ingests them.

Find her something else safe to chew on. She'll be teething. A big hemp rope
knotted at both ends (you can buy them in any pet store or pet section of a
store) is good for his, and the tassled strings on the ends will even act as
a floss of sorts. Don't be startled by a little blood when she's teething.
You can even toss it in the washer if it gets rank enough. Try to keep any
other recreational chewing to supevised situations if you go to things like
nyla bones or the ocassional rawhide (wash hands after touching rawhides).

-Sharon

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:16 pm
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I'd recommend you offer her big knuckle bones (raw of course) that are
loaded with cartiledge and bits of meat. This is wonderful chewing as
well as having good nutrition in the form of natural calcium,
cartiledge, vitamins and minerals. Inspect the bone from time to time
to make sure that there are no small bits that can come off in one
swoop. Give her a big one - bigger than her head. You'd be surprised at
how pups can carry these things around. My pups eat raw bones and love
them.

DJ

Nathan Otis wrote:

> Our 13wk female Weimer has taken to licking and even grinding her teeth on
> the stones we use around the house as door stops... I've known dogs to do
> this, but should I stop her? Can she hurt herself (ie: her teeth)?
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:24 pm
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The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ "JUST SAY NO
TO BHOWENS".


"Dee Jay" wrote in message

> I'd recommend you offer her big knuckle bones (raw of course)
that are
> loaded with cartiledge and bits of meat. This is wonderful
chewing as
> well as having good nutrition in the form of natural calcium,
> cartiledge, vitamins and minerals. Inspect the bone from time
to time
> to make sure that there are no small bits that can come off in
one
> swoop. Give her a big one - bigger than her head. You'd be
surprised at
> how pups can carry these things around. My pups eat raw bones
and love
> them.
>
> DJ
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> > Our 13wk female Weimer has taken to licking and even grinding
her teeth on
> > the stones we use around the house as door stops... I've known
dogs to do
> > this, but should I stop her? Can she hurt herself (ie: her
teeth)?
> >
> > n.
> >
> >
>
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The Puppy Wizard

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:27 am
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HOWEDY sharon too,

"Sharon too" wrote in message

>
> > Our 13wk female Weimer has taken to licking
> > and even grinding her teeth on the stones we
> > use around the house as door stops...

You can train the puppy to only chew apupriate
STUFF in just a few moments, if you know HOWE.

Like this:

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbousie@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Dog vs cat food (stealing cat food)
Date: 2001-03-03 22:18:03 PST

It's possible to teach a dog not to eat out of a cat
bowl without too much difficulty.

My dogs don't touch the food in the cat bowls although
Roz licks up any bits that have been dropped around
the bowls :-)

> > I've known dogs to do this, but should I stop her?

Of curse. But NOT physically or you'll REINFORCE
the PROBLEM and you'll TRAIN the dog to DO THAT
to get 100% of your undivided attention.

> Yes.

Of curse you advise ALL your veterinary practice
CUSTOMERS HOWE to handle and train their
puppys NEARLY INSTANTLY so they don't DO
STUFF like SWALLOW crap that you can EXXXTRACT
for a small fee.

> >Can she hurt herself (ie: her teeth)?

Yeah. But chewin rocks is probably safer
than swallowing them, which is what's
MOORE likely to happen if he tries to
STOP the puppy from doin it or rewards
IT with a alternate incompatible behavior.

> Yes. Add to that an obstruction in her
> gut if she ingests them.

NO PROBLEMO, your veterinarian DH can
take it HOWET and still make it back to the
HOWES pryor to you even noticin he was
HOWET. Too bad you don't know HOWE
to train a puppy not to DO STUFF like THAT.

Like this:

From: AIMEE ( )
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST

Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's
methods by alternating sounds and praising him while
or before he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's
been going into the room with the cat box and barking.
That's because he's thinking about getting into the
box, but he knows he shouldn't.

Thank you, Jerry, for all you help. You've been a
blessing to all of us.

AIMEE

> Find her something else safe to chew on.

You mean, as a REWARD, sharon too, veterinary
practice office manager for your veterinary DH?

> She'll be teething.

You think?

> A big hemp rope knotted at both ends (you
> can buy them in any pet store or pet section
> of a store) is good for his,

That so? The dog chews ROCKS.

She's got LOTS of STUFF she can chew.
She LIKES ROCKS. You gonna offer her
a REWARD for chewin rocks???

THAT'S the PROBLEM we're TRYING to break, AIN'T IT???

> and the tassled strings on the ends
> will even act as a floss of sorts.

THAT'S curiHOWES. The Amazing Puppy Wizard
has NEVER brushed his dog's teeth and has NEVER
seen dental DIS-EASE in ANY of HIS dogs in over
forty five years professional handling and trainin
EXXXCEPT WON and THAT was the dog who
TAUGHT The Amazing Puppy Wizard HOWE to
pupperly handle and train dogs to AVOID STRESS
INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE, aka The
Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME, forty sumpthin years
ago.

> Don't be startled by a little blood when she's teething.

Yeah. Foget teethin. Teething ain't got NUTHIN to do with it.

> You can even toss it in the washer if it gets rank enough.
> Try to keep any other recreational chewing to supevised
> situations

Supervision WON'T train the dog, sharon too.
IN FACT, keepin a eyeball on the dog will
TEACH IT to DO STUFF to get your 100%
undivided attention, sharon too.

> if you go to things like nyla bones or the ocassional
> rawhide (wash hands after touching rawhides).

Rawhide's got a pretty BAD reputation for hurtin
dogs, sharon too, veterinary office manager. Of
curse, your veterinarian DH can always take a
quick spin over to the shop and remove anoter
obstruction thanks to your EXXXPERT PROFESSIONAL
advice.

> -Sharon

We was talkin abHOWET CHEWIN STUFF,
veterinary doctor's SPHOWES and office manager.

REMEMBER?

You got any ADVICE abHOWET HOWE to TRAIN
the puppy NOT to CHEW ROCKS other than to
REWARD IT for CHEWIN STUFF?

BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

From: TooCool ( )

The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training
for years. I have a huge library that covers
every system of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End
Training Method is by far the most scientific,
the most advanced, the kindest, the quickest
and the most effective training method yet
discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and
tricks; it is a logically consistent system.
Every behavior problem and every obedience
skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please
endeavor to understand the basis of his system
and please follow his directions exactly. His
manual is a masterpiece. It is dense with
theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur
and how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his
methods based upon what you personally like or
dislike. His is not a bag of tricks but a complete
and integrated system for not only training a dog
but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system
creates for you the dog of your dreams, his
response was that it produces for your dog the
owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are
gentle with your dog then he will be gentle
with you, if you praise your dog every time he
looks at you, then you will become the center
of your dogs world, if you use Jerry's sound
distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train
your dog to not misbehave (even in your
absence) (Just 15 seconds this morning to train
my 10 week old puppy to lie quietly and let me
clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound
distraction / praise / alteration / variation)
it takes just minutes to train you dog to
respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week
old puppy running as fast has his wobbly little
legs would carry him in response to my recall
command-and he comes running every time I call
no matter where we are or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains
upon his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold
exercises and his Family Pack Leadership
exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog,
if you scream at him, if you intimidate him, if
you hurt him, if you force him then his natural
response is to oppose you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he
is or not. It is a logical fallacy to judge a
person's ideas based upon their personality. As
far as dogs are concerned, Jerry wears his heart
upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when he
hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding
or hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows that force is not
effective and that it will certainly lead to
behavior problems; sometime problems so severe
that people put their dogs down because of those
problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to
control their dog by force. Jerry knows this too.
We have all been at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In
scientific literature it is referred to
allelomimetic behavior. Dogs respond in like kind
to force; they respond in like kind to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your
praise. You will be astonished at how your dog 's
anxiety will dissipate and how their behavior
problems will dissipate along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as
you would the law of gravity and you will have
astounding success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a
sweet little Magwai; if you don't you will surely
get a little gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?).
--Larry


----- Original Message -----
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D."


To:
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:31 AM
Subject: How does diagnosis shape treatment?

How does diagnosis shape treatment?

Nearly every week I have a visit from Jerry Howe, who
publicizes himself as The Puppy Wizard. Jerry is a
master at behavioral modification of dogs.

His fundamental bedrock is the work Pavlov's last
student, the late Sam Corson, Ph.D., did at the U of
Ohio (at Oxford,O).

Sam always pointed out if the dog stopped working for
you in the lab, Pavlov and he always took the dog away
from the lab, and put him in a loving home and gave
him TLC for a couple of months, and then started, very
carefully, over again.

Jerry believes that reward and constraint focused
training is immoral. I've watched him in one short
session calm impossible dogs, just about to be
murdered (oops "put to sleep") because of their
"incorrigibly" violent behavior.

Sam was one of the first people to apply amphetamine
to hyperactivity (he searched the Middle West for
hyperactive dogs); but he never lost sight of the
fundamental reality that a dog is not a human, but
does respond, doggily, to dog love.

You might be surprised to go to B. F. Skinner's
"Cumulative Record" and read the essay by Breland and
Breland, "The Misbehavior of Organisms".

Animals cannot be successfully trained unless the
trainer attends to the evolutionary history, the
individual's developmental history, and the
environmental niche of the animal being trained.

Yep, right there in Skinner's last and summary book.
Even with behavior mod, you must know the animal.

<snip Dr. Von>

Dogs or little boys, you have to know the individual
history, and the nature of he disorder.

Dr. Von

PS if you are interested in dogs, then take a look at
Jerry's work, ThePuppyWiz... DeleteThis @EarthLink.Net


From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST

> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff
> > said.

> > Mike

> Ok Mike which part worked for you?

It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.

Works like a charm.

My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left
over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.

I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry M Male"
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Cocker with ear infection

> Thanks Jerry,

> I enjoyed the scientific discussion debunking
> operant conditioning for teaching thinking animals.
> Humans think by forming concepts. All of their
> knowledge is held as a hierarchy of concepts
> (more complex concepts defined in terms of
> simpler ones). In my mind, to treat such a being
> as a B. F. Skinner robot is criminal.

> I don't believe that dogs hold their knowledge
> as concepts as do humans but their ability to
> think is unquestionable.

> Operant conditioning doesn't utilize an animal's
> ability to think. When you show a dog what you
> want them to do, then they are able to grasp the
> problem; they are able to think about it and to
> integrate possible solutions into their mind.

> But with operant conditioning a trainer is actually
> hiding the problem to be solved from the animal.

> For example, it is good for your dog's attention to
> be upon you. When heeling, he will notice your
> movements, your subtle hand signals, your facial
> expressions and he will immediately sense your
> next command. But the clicker trainers have
> forgotten the reasons why a dog's attention should
> be upon you.

> So they condition a dog to unnaturally cock his head
> to stare upward at you. The dog doesn't appreciate
> the meaning of this and neither does the trainer.
> Since this unnatural behavior is prized in the
> obedience ring, the clicker trainers are motivated
> to condition it.

> Don't you think that the "high five" hand shake that
> clicker trainers use to motivate novices looks like
> a Nazi salute (an unthinking reflex). It is not at
> all like a warm hand shake from a loving companion,
> is it?

> Some of your testimonials bring tears to my eyes. I
> love to see how some "thinking" people appreciate
> your methods.
> --Larry

From: AIMEE ( )
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST

I've been having a problem with my dog, Axel,
relieving himself in the house while I'm away
from home.

I've used TPW method's, and yesterday I was out
for 12 hours, and Axel didn't have one single "accident".

Today, I had hoped that the results would be just as
good - and they were (I was out for 11 hours).

The problem began when, as a puppy, Axel would
relieve himself in the house and I would point at the
mess and tell him "NO" or "Bad Dog".

That made him afraid to relieve himself in the house
or infront of me.

After I got TPW's training manual, I corrected my
mishandling of these instances.

When I came home to an "accident", I would simply
drop a can near the area and ask Axel "What's that?"
Then I would clean it up - with out showing him I was
the least bit upset about the mess, and when he looked
at the spot I would tell him "Good boy, you're a good
dog".

This has been an ongoing problem, and thanks to the
Puppy Wizard, we've finally got it taken care of...

Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's
methods by alternating sounds and praising him while
or before he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's
been going into the room with the cat box and barking.
That's because he's thinking about getting into the
box, but he knows he shouldn't.

Thank you, Jerry, for all you help. You've been a
blessing to all of us.

AIMEE

===================

From: AIMEE ( ):

I own a black an tan coonhound. We got him
as a puppy, and due to constant mishandling
(pulling on his lead, negative corrections, and
the occasional use of a bark collar) I ended
up with a very anxious dog.

I couldn't leave him home alone, I couldn't
crate him, I couldn't even take my dog for
walks because he feared EVERYTHING.

I was going to have to get rid of him if things
didn't turn around.

My husband and I searched the internet for
answers - AND WE FOUND THE PUPPY WIZARD.

For all of you disbeliveers out there HIS METHODS WORK!

I've followed his manual, and we now have a
dog that can be left home alone, that heels
on command, that can go outside and NOT
be afraid of everything he sees.

Not only have his methods helped our dog, but
our marriage has gotten better. We had fallen
into a rut - constant bickering and tension, we
never laughed or had FUN together - but now,
with the same mindset used in THE PUPPY
WIZARDS dog training, our communications
channels have opened, and we now work
together instead of against one another.

For all the "Literalists" out there, NO WE DID
NOT TEACH EACH OTHER TO SIT, STAY,
OR HEEL.

We simply eliminated the nagging and the
acting out to get NEGATIVE attention from
one another since we weren't getting
the POSITIVE attention we wanted.

So, it's been proven - THE PUPPY WIZARDS
METHODS WORK.

It's up to you to accept them. Yes, there's alot
of blame that we have to accept, but once we
realize that we've caused these problems to
arise, we can strive to make things better.

AIMEE

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer

"Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.

"If you've got them by the balls their hearts
and minds will follow,"
John Wayne.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
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