cats in the road

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"---MIKE---" <twinmountain.DeleteThis@webtv.net> wrote in message
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School is out!


Nahhh, more likely the SSI welfare check came in, and
he is now high on drugs & alcohol.
 >> Stay informed about: cats in the road 

In January my 3 year old Ginger and White cat, Tynes, went
missing following some snow. I'd advertised for his return but
got only vauge sighting in response.

Two weeks ago ( beginning of June) however I was contacted about
such a cat breaking into houses through catflaps and stealing
food, about a mile from my house on the other side of the
village.

After a lot of trouble we have now last night trapped the cat
(who has aquired a PhD in Escapology and Entrapment Avoidance)
and it shows almost identical markings to my cat confirmed by
photographs, though is rather thin. At first I was sure it was
Tynes.

But not quite now - in that some of this cats white fur areas are
just slightly larger, and a couople of small ginger spots on his
face have dissapeared. All my cat's other distinctive marks are
there ( Broad chubby face, off centre white nose streak, Ginger
spot on left leg, a thin white band over scruff of the neck etc
etc)

Otherwise, build, size, eye colour, ears etc etc are the same.
Though very hard to catch in the neighbour's houses, he has
apparently settled into my house, almost as if he knows it. ( he
has not been allowed out yet) He has probably been living rough
as he is very dirty and rather thin now.

THE QUESTION TO THE GROUP IS ======

After a winter moult, or perhaps poor diet during the
last few months, how likely is it for a cat's "definitive" colour
pattern to change in these subtle ways?

Is this Tynes ? -- or do I need to rename him ???

Tynes

With apologies for posting this to a few other Cat groups too).
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No. In my experience cat color patterns never change.

What can happen though; Bad photo, dirt or folds in skin (due to weight
loss) or whatever can make a cat look drastically different.

Have you actually MET this cat yet? Maybe you should go see it and find out
if it recognizes you. (My cats recognize their former owners after 4 years
so it's probable.)

"Clive Sherriff" <clive.sherriff.TakeThisOut@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> In January my 3 year old Ginger and White cat, Tynes, went
> missing following some snow. I'd advertised for his return but
> got only vauge sighting in response.
>
> Two weeks ago ( beginning of June) however I was contacted about
> such a cat breaking into houses through catflaps and stealing
> food, about a mile from my house on the other side of the
> village.
>
> After a lot of trouble we have now last night trapped the cat
> (who has aquired a PhD in Escapology and Entrapment Avoidance)
> and it shows almost identical markings to my cat confirmed by
> photographs, though is rather thin. At first I was sure it was
> Tynes.
>
> But not quite now - in that some of this cats white fur areas are
> just slightly larger, and a couople of small ginger spots on his
> face have dissapeared. All my cat's other distinctive marks are
> there ( Broad chubby face, off centre white nose streak, Ginger
> spot on left leg, a thin white band over scruff of the neck etc
> etc)
>
> Otherwise, build, size, eye colour, ears etc etc are the same.
> Though very hard to catch in the neighbour's houses, he has
> apparently settled into my house, almost as if he knows it. ( he
> has not been allowed out yet) He has probably been living rough
> as he is very dirty and rather thin now.
>
> THE QUESTION TO THE GROUP IS ======
>
> After a winter moult, or perhaps poor diet during the
> last few months, how likely is it for a cat's "definitive" colour
> pattern to change in these subtle ways?
>
> Is this Tynes ? -- or do I need to rename him ???
>
> Tynes
>
> With apologies for posting this to a few other Cat groups too).
>
>
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Yes - we have met and the cat accepts me, though is frightened,
it will allow itself to be picked up, settles in my arms and gets
stroked without panic, though it did panic on first being allowed
out of the cat trap.

Clive
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".._.." <.._...RemoveThis@yourmom.mil> wrote in message
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> No. In my experience cat color patterns never change.
>
> What can happen though; Bad photo, dirt or folds in skin (due
to weight
> loss) or whatever can make a cat look drastically different.
>
> Have you actually MET this cat yet? Maybe you should go see it
and find out
> if it recognizes you. (My cats recognize their former owners
after 4 years
> so it's probable.)
>
 >> Stay informed about: cats in the road 

"Clive Sherriff" <clive.sherriff.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> In January my 3 year old Ginger and White cat, Tynes, went
> missing following some snow. I'd advertised for his return but
> got only vauge sighting in response.
>
> Two weeks ago ( beginning of June) however I was contacted about
> such a cat breaking into houses through catflaps and stealing
> food, about a mile from my house on the other side of the
> village.
>
> After a lot of trouble we have now last night trapped the cat
> (who has aquired a PhD in Escapology and Entrapment Avoidance)
> and it shows almost identical markings to my cat confirmed by
> photographs, though is rather thin. At first I was sure it was
> Tynes.
>
> But not quite now - in that some of this cats white fur areas are
> just slightly larger, and a couople of small ginger spots on his
> face have dissapeared. All my cat's other distinctive marks are
> there ( Broad chubby face, off centre white nose streak, Ginger
> spot on left leg, a thin white band over scruff of the neck etc
> etc)
>
> Otherwise, build, size, eye colour, ears etc etc are the same.
> Though very hard to catch in the neighbour's houses, he has
> apparently settled into my house, almost as if he knows it. ( he
> has not been allowed out yet) He has probably been living rough
> as he is very dirty and rather thin now.
>
> THE QUESTION TO THE GROUP IS ======
>
> After a winter moult, or perhaps poor diet during the
> last few months, how likely is it for a cat's "definitive" colour
> pattern to change in these subtle ways?
>
> Is this Tynes ? -- or do I need to rename him ???
>
> Tynes
>
> With apologies for posting this to a few other Cat groups too).
>
>
What choice do you have? - Your original Tynes is still missing, so you
might as well adopt this newer Tynes....
This reminds me of our male feral cat, "Smokey". He has been in the
neighborhood for over 5 years now, and his progeny are everywhere....We
found two dead "Smokey's" on our local roads last year, and sorrowfully
picked them up, and buried them in our front yard, next to Missy, our loving
domestic cat who died about three years ago. But then, "Smokey", or some
identical feline, showed up a day or two later, and came in just like he
always did and raided the cat food....So, who did we bury? - And, why does
it really matter?
 >> Stay informed about: cats in the road 

On Jun 12, 8:21 am, "Clive Sherriff" <clive.sherr... RemoveThis @ntlworld.com>
wrote:
> In January my 3 year old Ginger and White cat, Tynes, went
> missing following some snow. I'd advertised for his return but
> got only vauge sighting in response.
>
> Two weeks ago ( beginning of June) however I was contacted about
> such a cat breaking into houses through catflaps and stealing
> food, about a mile from my house on the other side of the
> village.
>
> After a lot of trouble we have now last night trapped the cat
> (who has aquired a PhD in Escapology and Entrapment Avoidance)
> and it shows almost identical markings to my cat confirmed by
> photographs, though is rather thin. At first I was sure it was
> Tynes.
>
> But not quite now - in that some of this cats white fur areas are
> just slightly larger, and a couople of small ginger spots on his
> face have dissapeared. All my cat's other distinctive marks are
> there ( Broad chubby face, off centre white nose streak, Ginger
> spot on left leg, a thin white band over scruff of the neck etc
> etc)
>
> Otherwise, build, size, eye colour, ears etc etc are the same.
> Though very hard to catch in the neighbour's houses, he has
> apparently settled into my house, almost as if he knows it. ( he
> has not been allowed out yet) He has probably been living rough
> as he is very dirty and rather thin now.
>
> THE QUESTION TO THE GROUP IS ======
>
> After a winter moult, or perhaps poor diet during the
> last few months, how likely is it for a cat's "definitive" colour
> pattern to change in these subtle ways?
>
> Is this Tynes ? -- or do I need to rename him ???
>
> Tynes
>
> With apologies for posting this to a few other Cat groups too).

If cats are like rabbits then patterns do change in size and color may
also change. What was a black rabbit takes on grayish and brown
color. What was a white X on the head becomes a y.
 >> Stay informed about: cats in the road 

> Is this Tynes ? -- or do I need to rename him ???
>
no chip?
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Thanks,

You are of course absolutely right, and the "new" cat will
indeed have a loving home here should he decide to
stay.

It is the similarity of markings, size, body build etc that
prompt the original question on how much, if at all, ac
cats markings can change.

Clive
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"William Graham" <weg9 RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Clive Sherriff" <clive.sherriff RemoveThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:vdwbi.4568$P57.4323@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
> > In January my 3 year old Ginger and White cat, Tynes, went
> > missing following some snow. I'd advertised for his return
but
> > got only vauge sighting in response.
> >
> > Two weeks ago ( beginning of June) however I was contacted
about
> > such a cat breaking into houses through catflaps and stealing
> > food, about a mile from my house on the other side of the
> > village.
> >
> > After a lot of trouble we have now last night trapped the cat
> > (who has aquired a PhD in Escapology and Entrapment
Avoidance)
> > and it shows almost identical markings to my cat confirmed by
> > photographs, though is rather thin. At first I was sure it
was
> > Tynes.
> >
> > But not quite now - in that some of this cats white fur areas
are
> > just slightly larger, and a couople of small ginger spots on
his
> > face have dissapeared. All my cat's other distinctive marks
are
> > there ( Broad chubby face, off centre white nose streak,
Ginger
> > spot on left leg, a thin white band over scruff of the neck
etc
> > etc)
> >
> > Otherwise, build, size, eye colour, ears etc etc are the
same.
> > Though very hard to catch in the neighbour's houses, he has
> > apparently settled into my house, almost as if he knows it.
( he
> > has not been allowed out yet) He has probably been living
rough
> > as he is very dirty and rather thin now.
> >
> > THE QUESTION TO THE GROUP IS ======
> >
> > After a winter moult, or perhaps poor diet during
the
> > last few months, how likely is it for a cat's "definitive"
colour
> > pattern to change in these subtle ways?
> >
> > Is this Tynes ? -- or do I need to rename him ???
> >
> > Tynes
> >
> > With apologies for posting this to a few other Cat groups
too).
> >
> >
> What choice do you have? - Your original Tynes is still
missing, so you
> might as well adopt this newer Tynes....
> This reminds me of our male feral cat, "Smokey". He has
been in the
> neighborhood for over 5 years now, and his progeny are
everywhere....We
> found two dead "Smokey's" on our local roads last year, and
sorrowfully
> picked them up, and buried them in our front yard, next to
Missy, our loving
> domestic cat who died about three years ago. But then,
"Smokey", or some
> identical feline, showed up a day or two later, and came in
just like he
> always did and raided the cat food....So, who did we bury? -
And, why does
> it really matter?
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: cats in the road 

"Clive Sherriff" <clive.sherriff DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>
> It is the similarity of markings, size, body build etc that
> prompt the original question on how much, if at all, ac
> cats markings can change.

I'd say it's completely possible up to a point. A cat being on it's own out
in less than desirable weather conditions would grow a thicker coat and with
that might come some colour or marking change. Of course, you know now what
you have to do to prevent these questions from occurring again? Take the cat
and have it microchipped.
 >> Stay informed about: cats in the road 

Some things can change depending on age of the cat an older cat is less
likely to change but a cat in there teens would get more white and some
paterns would fade. A young adult cat can have some small spots get bigger
and some vanish completley. While you are wondering if this is your cat
think about this. It very well could be your cat but he is so tramtised it
could take him months to come around to his normal self. You really should
have him microchipped, vetted again to make sure that even if he isen't your
cat that he won't be sick later on with some deadly disease and have him
tested to make sure he isent already totoing something in his blood. You
would also do better to get him nuetured as well help prevent his wanderin
off and producing unwanted babies.


"Clive Sherriff" <clive.sherriff.TakeThisOut@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> In January my 3 year old Ginger and White cat, Tynes, went
> missing following some snow. I'd advertised for his return but
> got only vauge sighting in response.
>
> Two weeks ago ( beginning of June) however I was contacted about
> such a cat breaking into houses through catflaps and stealing
> food, about a mile from my house on the other side of the
> village.
>
> After a lot of trouble we have now last night trapped the cat
> (who has aquired a PhD in Escapology and Entrapment Avoidance)
> and it shows almost identical markings to my cat confirmed by
> photographs, though is rather thin. At first I was sure it was
> Tynes.
>
> But not quite now - in that some of this cats white fur areas are
> just slightly larger, and a couople of small ginger spots on his
> face have dissapeared. All my cat's other distinctive marks are
> there ( Broad chubby face, off centre white nose streak, Ginger
> spot on left leg, a thin white band over scruff of the neck etc
> etc)
>
> Otherwise, build, size, eye colour, ears etc etc are the same.
> Though very hard to catch in the neighbour's houses, he has
> apparently settled into my house, almost as if he knows it. ( he
> has not been allowed out yet) He has probably been living rough
> as he is very dirty and rather thin now.
>
> THE QUESTION TO THE GROUP IS ======
>
> After a winter moult, or perhaps poor diet during the
> last few months, how likely is it for a cat's "definitive" colour
> pattern to change in these subtle ways?
>
> Is this Tynes ? -- or do I need to rename him ???
>
> Tynes
>
> With apologies for posting this to a few other Cat groups too).
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: cats in the road 

kwan wrote:
> "---MIKE---" <twinmountain.RemoveThis@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:8850-4664063C-90@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net...
> School is out!
>
>
> Nahhh, more likely the SSI welfare check came in, and
> he is now high on drugs & alcohol.
>
>
>
>

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but realized that I already know the answer.

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