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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:10 am
Post subject: I have 5 cats.
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Well 2 cats and three four month old kittens. I got them all from the cat
protection ppl.
They came with a form saying I have to have them spayed/neutered at six
months. The thing is the female is long haired and good looking so I could
make a mint from the kittens. Can they force me to do them?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:11 am
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:10:59 GMT, "Neo ²°°³©" <theone.RemoveThis@neo.karoo.co.uk>
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>Well 2 cats and three four month old kittens. I got them all from the cat
>protection ppl.
>
>They came with a form saying I have to have them spayed/neutered at six
>months. The thing is the female is long haired and good looking so I could
>make a mint from the kittens. Can they force me to do them?
Your chances of actually making significant money are slim to none:
stud fee, kitten shots, vet visits for the mother, etc., not to
mention the agravation and hassles. You might make expenses, but the
market for high priced kittens without papers hardly exists, and low
prices don't even cover your expenses. It's hard even to *give* them
away.
Not to mention that you (probably) signed a (probably) binding
agreement to spay the cat which means that if you don't show them
proof of spaying, they can go to court to force you to spay the cat,
and maybe pay their legal expenses. Spaying the cat is the only
honorable path, and the one that is probably least damaging to your
finances.
T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu)
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:08 pm
Post subject: Re: I have 5 cats. [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Ted Davis" <tdavis.RemoveThis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:10:59 GMT, "Neo ²°°³©" <theone.RemoveThis@neo.karoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >Well 2 cats and three four month old kittens. I got them all from the cat
> >protection ppl.
> >
> >They came with a form saying I have to have them spayed/neutered at six
> >months. The thing is the female is long haired and good looking so I
could
> >make a mint from the kittens. Can they force me to do them?
>
> Your chances of actually making significant money are slim to none:
> stud fee, kitten shots, vet visits for the mother, etc., not to
> mention the agravation and hassles. You might make expenses, but the
> market for high priced kittens without papers hardly exists, and low
> prices don't even cover your expenses. It's hard even to *give* them
> away.
>
> Not to mention that you (probably) signed a (probably) binding
> agreement to spay the cat which means that if you don't show them
> proof of spaying, they can go to court to force you to spay the cat,
> and maybe pay their legal expenses. Spaying the cat is the only
> honorable path, and the one that is probably least damaging to your
> finances.
>
What expenses? The male cat does the female... I put her in the garage when
she drops, 8 weeks later I flog the young. Hardly expensive, just a bit of
extra kitten food for a while and I flog them for £30 each.
I could tell the woman when she rings up that Willow got run over then
there's probably not a damn thing she can do about it.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:14 pm
Post subject: Re: I have 5 cats. [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Neo ²°°³© wrote:
> "Ted Davis" <tdavis.TakeThisOut@gearbox.maem.umr.edu> wrote in message
> news:2r9pkvcp0hdr7hc922u08f4j19s47eeb4u@4ax.com...
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>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:10:59 GMT, "Neo ²°°³©" <theone.TakeThisOut@neo.karoo.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Well 2 cats and three four month old kittens. I got them all from the cat
>>>protection ppl.
>>>
>>>They came with a form saying I have to have them spayed/neutered at six
>>>months. The thing is the female is long haired and good looking so I
>
> could
>
>>>make a mint from the kittens. Can they force me to do them?
>>
>>Your chances of actually making significant money are slim to none:
>>stud fee, kitten shots, vet visits for the mother, etc., not to
>>mention the agravation and hassles. You might make expenses, but the
>>market for high priced kittens without papers hardly exists, and low
>>prices don't even cover your expenses. It's hard even to *give* them
>>away.
>>
>>Not to mention that you (probably) signed a (probably) binding
>>agreement to spay the cat which means that if you don't show them
>>proof of spaying, they can go to court to force you to spay the cat,
>>and maybe pay their legal expenses. Spaying the cat is the only
>>honorable path, and the one that is probably least damaging to your
>>finances.
>>
>
>
> What expenses? The male cat does the female... I put her in the garage when
> she drops, 8 weeks later I flog the young. Hardly expensive, just a bit of
> extra kitten food for a while and I flog them for £30 each.
>
> I could tell the woman when she rings up that Willow got run over then
> there's probably not a damn thing she can do about it.
>
> Neo
>
>
Well since you are posting from Hull (why else have a karoo account) and
there's only one CPL branch near there - I'd hope there's no-one from
the Hull branch reading this ng - especially since you just let the cats
name slip. >> Stay informed about: I have 5 cats. |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:14 pm
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:14 pm
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"Chris Street" <despam.trasher1 RemoveThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Neo ²°°³© wrote:
> > "Ted Davis" <tdavis RemoveThis @gearbox.maem.umr.edu> wrote in message
> > news:2r9pkvcp0hdr7hc922u08f4j19s47eeb4u@4ax.com...
> >
> >>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:10:59 GMT, "Neo ²°°³©" <theone RemoveThis @neo.karoo.co.uk>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Well 2 cats and three four month old kittens. I got them all from the
cat
> >>>protection ppl.
> >>>
> >>>They came with a form saying I have to have them spayed/neutered at six
> >>>months. The thing is the female is long haired and good looking so I
> >
> > could
> >
> >>>make a mint from the kittens. Can they force me to do them?
> >>
> >>Your chances of actually making significant money are slim to none:
> >>stud fee, kitten shots, vet visits for the mother, etc., not to
> >>mention the agravation and hassles. You might make expenses, but the
> >>market for high priced kittens without papers hardly exists, and low
> >>prices don't even cover your expenses. It's hard even to *give* them
> >>away.
> >>
> >>Not to mention that you (probably) signed a (probably) binding
> >>agreement to spay the cat which means that if you don't show them
> >>proof of spaying, they can go to court to force you to spay the cat,
> >>and maybe pay their legal expenses. Spaying the cat is the only
> >>honorable path, and the one that is probably least damaging to your
> >>finances.
> >>
> >
> >
> > What expenses? The male cat does the female... I put her in the garage
when
> > she drops, 8 weeks later I flog the young. Hardly expensive, just a bit
of
> > extra kitten food for a while and I flog them for £30 each.
> >
> > I could tell the woman when she rings up that Willow got run over then
> > there's probably not a damn thing she can do about it.
> >
> > Neo
> >
> >
> Well since you are posting from Hull (why else have a karoo account) and
> there's only one CPL branch near there - I'd hope there's no-one from
> the Hull branch reading this ng - especially since you just let the cats
> name slip.
Personally I think the guy is a troll but just in case he isn't, someone
should
call the CPL in Hull and inform them that their screening process is flawed.
The groups I know of would never give one person 5 cats unless they knew
them really well or if they were just fostering.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:14 pm
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"DeAnna" <deanna_kay RemoveThis @geocities.com> wrote in message
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> I smell troll....or someone who's not bathed recently...very hard to tell
the difference
> nowadays....
>
> Beware, Chris.
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:53 pm
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theone DeleteThis @neo.karoo.co.uk posts
>Well 2 cats and three four month >old kittens. I got them all from the >cat
protection ppl.
>They came with a form saying I >have to have them >spayed/neutered at six
>months. I could
>make a mint from the kittens. Can >they force me to do them?
1) You're a troll and an idiot
2) You have little education and, obviously, no desire to learn the basics of
cat care
3) You should do the ethical thing - if you even have the cats you write about
- and find good homes for them.
4) Forward the name of this group because they don't care where they dump the
cats. >> Stay informed about: I have 5 cats. |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 5:51 pm
Post subject: Re: I have 5 cats. [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> I have five that were abused. Willow was emaciated and Piddles took three
> days to come out of the corner.
> All of them are now friendly and follow me everywhere.
>
> If I vet the owners, pardon the pun, then I should be able to get them good
> homes. So why not make a few quid towards the vets bills and food? The last
> trip, last week, cost me #25 for an antibiotic coz, as it turns out,
> "whiskers" is too rich and I should have been using Felix.
>
Great that you are taking in abused cats. But think of your "grandchildren". The more you
breed, the more you risk creating more "Willows" and "Piddles". You can check out the
owners nine ways to Sunday. Unless you are willing to do home follow-up visits, you don't
know what you are getting your kittens into, and if you are breeding, do you intend to
adopt to others that will also breed? Perhaps they would find their kittens "beautiful"
and decide to make a few quid.
:(
See, it is like an avalanche, and there is really no stopping it. Two beget six, six beget
thirty-six, and so on.
Just think ahead, and ask yourself if you want to risk it. Simpler to just pay the vet
bills, and write it off as a rather cheap payment for a lot of love (cheaper than kids,
lol).
D. >> Stay informed about: I have 5 cats. |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:49 pm
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"AWriteny" <awriteny.DeleteThis@aol.comnadaspam> wrote in message
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> theone.DeleteThis@neo.karoo.co.uk posts
> >Well 2 cats and three four month >old kittens. I got them all from the
>cat
> protection ppl.
> >They came with a form saying I >have to have them >spayed/neutered at six
> >months. I could
> >make a mint from the kittens. Can >they force me to do them?
>
> 1) You're a troll and an idiot
No I am not. I have an IQ of 138.
> 2) You have little education and, obviously, no desire to learn the basics
of
> cat care
So that's why my two fully grown cats are completely fit, healthy and well.
They are affectionate and love our home.
> 3) You should do the ethical thing - if you even have the cats you write
about
> - and find good homes for them.
You are the troll.
> 4) Forward the name of this group because they don't care where they dump
the
> cats.
Would you mind translating this for me please. I'm guessing you've had a
drink.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:52 pm
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"Agua Girl" <uknown.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "Chris Street" <despam.trasher1.TakeThisOut@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> > Neo ²°°³© wrote:
> > > "Ted Davis" <tdavis.TakeThisOut@gearbox.maem.umr.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:2r9pkvcp0hdr7hc922u08f4j19s47eeb4u@4ax.com...
> > >
> > >>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:10:59 GMT, "Neo ²°°³©" <theone.TakeThisOut@neo.karoo.co.uk>
> > >>wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Well 2 cats and three four month old kittens. I got them all from the
> cat
> > >>>protection ppl.
> > >>>
> > >>>They came with a form saying I have to have them spayed/neutered at
six
> > >>>months. The thing is the female is long haired and good looking so I
> > >
> > > could
> > >
> > >>>make a mint from the kittens. Can they force me to do them?
> > >>
> > >>Your chances of actually making significant money are slim to none:
> > >>stud fee, kitten shots, vet visits for the mother, etc., not to
> > >>mention the agravation and hassles. You might make expenses, but the
> > >>market for high priced kittens without papers hardly exists, and low
> > >>prices don't even cover your expenses. It's hard even to *give* them
> > >>away.
> > >>
> > >>Not to mention that you (probably) signed a (probably) binding
> > >>agreement to spay the cat which means that if you don't show them
> > >>proof of spaying, they can go to court to force you to spay the cat,
> > >>and maybe pay their legal expenses. Spaying the cat is the only
> > >>honorable path, and the one that is probably least damaging to your
> > >>finances.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > What expenses? The male cat does the female... I put her in the garage
> when
> > > she drops, 8 weeks later I flog the young. Hardly expensive, just a
bit
> of
> > > extra kitten food for a while and I flog them for £30 each.
> > >
> > > I could tell the woman when she rings up that Willow got run over then
> > > there's probably not a damn thing she can do about it.
> > >
> > > Neo
> > >
> > >
> > Well since you are posting from Hull (why else have a karoo account) and
> > there's only one CPL branch near there - I'd hope there's no-one from
> > the Hull branch reading this ng - especially since you just let the cats
> > name slip.
>
> Personally I think the guy is a troll but just in case he isn't, someone
> should
> call the CPL in Hull and inform them that their screening process is
flawed.
> The groups I know of would never give one person 5 cats unless they knew
> them really well or if they were just fostering.
>
They needed a good home. I have such a home. Three dogs, 5 cats, 3 rats, 2
kids, five fish tanks, and a big pond. I have a 150k house on the borders of
Leeds. It has loads of land and all the field mice you an eat.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:53 pm
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:08:28 GMT, "Neo ²°°³©" <theone RemoveThis @neo.karoo.co.uk>
wrote:
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>"Ted Davis" <tdavis RemoveThis @gearbox.maem.umr.edu> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:10:59 GMT, "Neo ²°°³©" <theone RemoveThis @neo.karoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Well 2 cats and three four month old kittens. I got them all from the cat
>> >protection ppl.
>> >
>> >They came with a form saying I have to have them spayed/neutered at six
>> >months. The thing is the female is long haired and good looking so I
>could
>> >make a mint from the kittens. Can they force me to do them?
>>
>> Your chances of actually making significant money are slim to none:
>> stud fee, kitten shots, vet visits for the mother, etc., not to
>> mention the agravation and hassles. You might make expenses, but the
>> market for high priced kittens without papers hardly exists, and low
>> prices don't even cover your expenses. It's hard even to *give* them
>> away.
>>
>> Not to mention that you (probably) signed a (probably) binding
>> agreement to spay the cat which means that if you don't show them
>> proof of spaying, they can go to court to force you to spay the cat,
>> and maybe pay their legal expenses. Spaying the cat is the only
>> honorable path, and the one that is probably least damaging to your
>> finances.
>>
>
>What expenses? The male cat does the female... I put her in the garage when
>she drops, 8 weeks later I flog the young. Hardly expensive, just a bit of
>extra kitten food for a while and I flog them for £30 each.
>
>I could tell the woman when she rings up that Willow got run over then
>there's probably not a damn thing she can do about it.
>
Random matings? Random kittens. Around here, people have trouble
giving them away, even if they are already neutered and have had their
shots.
Quality stud service is not cheap, and you get what you pay for in
that area. And people buying kittens generally want prepared pets -
shots and all, though at that price, they should expect culls with
good breeding but not of show quality and with no papers, and a
binding contract, which the breeder *will* enforce, that the buyer
will neuter the kitten.
T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body) >> Stay informed about: I have 5 cats. |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:56 pm
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:22:00 -0500, "DeAnna"
<deanna_kay.RemoveThis@geocities.com> wrote:
>I smell troll....or someone who's not bathed recently...very hard to tell the difference
>nowadays....
Well, these people do exist. I think some of the abandoned kittens I
have taken in might have come from such operations that failed to make
money (two of them are extremely pretty, and one of them has a
definitely below standard looking brother).
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:36 pm
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On 28 Aug 2003 , Neo ²°°³© wrote :
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> "Agua Girl" <uknown.RemoveThis@nospam.net> wrote in message
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>> "Chris Street" <despam.trasher1.RemoveThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:biiecc$9ont9$1@ID-117399.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> > Neo ²°°³© wrote:
>> > > "Ted Davis" <tdavis.RemoveThis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu> wrote in message
>> > > news:2r9pkvcp0hdr7hc922u08f4j19s47eeb4u@4ax.com...
>> > >
>> > >>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:10:59 GMT, "Neo ²°°³©"
>> > >><theone.RemoveThis@neo.karoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>Well 2 cats and three four month old kittens. I got them all
>> > >>>from the
>> cat
>> > >>>protection ppl.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>They came with a form saying I have to have them spayed/neutered
>> > >>>at
> six
>> > >>>months. The thing is the female is long haired and good looking
>> > >>>so I
>> > >
>> > > could
>> > >
>> > >>>make a mint from the kittens. Can they force me to do them?
>> > >>
>> > >>Your chances of actually making significant money are slim to
>> > >>none: stud fee, kitten shots, vet visits for the mother, etc.,
>> > >>not to mention the agravation and hassles. You might make
>> > >>expenses, but the market for high priced kittens without papers
>> > >>hardly exists, and low prices don't even cover your expenses.
>> > >>It's hard even to *give* them away.
>> > >>
>> > >>Not to mention that you (probably) signed a (probably) binding
>> > >>agreement to spay the cat which means that if you don't show them
>> > >>proof of spaying, they can go to court to force you to spay the
>> > >>cat, and maybe pay their legal expenses. Spaying the cat is the
>> > >>only honorable path, and the one that is probably least damaging
>> > >>to your finances.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > What expenses? The male cat does the female... I put her in the
>> > > garage
>> when
>> > > she drops, 8 weeks later I flog the young. Hardly expensive, just
>> > > a
> bit
>> of
>> > > extra kitten food for a while and I flog them for £30 each.
>> > >
>> > > I could tell the woman when she rings up that Willow got run over
>> > > then there's probably not a damn thing she can do about it.
>> > >
>> > > Neo
>> > >
>> > >
>> > Well since you are posting from Hull (why else have a karoo
>> > account) and there's only one CPL branch near there - I'd hope
>> > there's no-one from the Hull branch reading this ng - especially
>> > since you just let the cats name slip.
>>
>> Personally I think the guy is a troll but just in case he isn't,
>> someone should
>> call the CPL in Hull and inform them that their screening process is
> flawed.
>> The groups I know of would never give one person 5 cats unless they
>> knew them really well or if they were just fostering.
>>
> They needed a good home. I have such a home. Three dogs, 5 cats, 3
> rats, 2 kids, five fish tanks, and a big pond. I have a 150k house on
> the borders of Leeds. It has loads of land and all the field mice you
> an eat.
>
> Neo
>
>
.... and a dishonourable owner.
--
Nicolaas.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:01 pm
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In news:a6kqkvghh2ouppmp7p0isg60fblo6tckss@4ax.com,
Ted Davis <tdavis.RemoveThis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu> composed with style:
>
> Random matings? Random kittens. Around here, people have trouble
> giving them away, even if they are already neutered and have had
> their
> shots.
>
Not to mention that genetics can play funny games. It doesn't matter
what the parents look like, a mixed breed is a mixed breed and a
long-haired cat can have short-haired kittens that are *ordinary*...
though I love ordinary. :) >> Stay informed about: I have 5 cats. |
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