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jibaku

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:30 am
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I have always had cats and been passionate about them. I adopted my
current cat from a vet where she was being given away free from a
litter that came unexpectedly to an old couple. She was only 3 months
old, and timid from lack of interaction. I was concerned that she
might always be skittish, but she enjoyed being petted and warmed up
to me with effort and patience.

This cat has been an ideal cat for a small apartment because she is
proportionately small, doesn't chew things or knock things down or
lunge for/break into food left on the counter. Best of all, she's
content with one room and doesn't even try to make an escape when the
door's left open. In short, she's exceptionally mild mannered.

I'm accustomed to most cats natural vehemence toward other cats when
they haven't been around them much. And I've heard many a raucous cat
fight. But I have never seen the like of this normally timid cat when
she goes berserk. I first met this side of her when she caught sight
of an outdoor cat for the first time, but thankfully she has become
more accustomed to it and toned down.

Today, however, I fraternized with one of the outdoor cats. When I
came in, I petted her with my foot until I had washed my hands
thoroughly, but when I reached out for her she detected something and
reacted toward me exactly as if I were a vicious predator who'd just
taken a bite out of her. Hissing, snarling, and growling like I've
never heard and can't adequately describe. It was like she was
rabid. She lashed repeatedly and drew blood. I actually had to fear
her; I thought she'd claw my eyes out if I came to close. I had to
put on some gloves to pick her up by the scruff and put her in the
bathroom (which is punishment for bad behavior). She didn't remotely
calm down while she was scruffed. She was so upset to have my hands
on her that she peed and defecated while growling.

I left her alone for a while but when I went back she got worked up
again. I feel like I'll have to take a shower before she treats me
like the person who has cared for her for most of her life.

This behavior seems seriously excessive. It feels terrible to be
treated like an enemy by an animal I've done nothing but love. Has
anyone else experienced the like? I don't know if I can keep this up,
when she's like this.

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jibaku

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:21 am
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Seriously, my cat is psycho. After leaving her in the bathroom for a
while, I went and washed my hands and arms and changed clothes and
then tried petting her. She reluctantly endured it for a minute and
meowed in a calm tone. She sniffed me extensively, and then
apparently suddenly sensed something she still disapproved of and went
back into hysterics. I was so disgusted I decided to set her up with
a box in the back yard (it's fenced) to give her some experience with
alien smells.

After about 30 min I went to check on her. She was laying with her
head and paws outside the box. She meowed familiarly when she saw me,
then about ten seconds later put her ears down and backed away from
me, hissing and growling. I hadn't even moved. This is crazy!

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MaryL

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:21 am
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<jibaku RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Seriously, my cat is psycho. After leaving her in the bathroom for a
> while, I went and washed my hands and arms and changed clothes and
> then tried petting her. She reluctantly endured it for a minute and
> meowed in a calm tone. She sniffed me extensively, and then
> apparently suddenly sensed something she still disapproved of and went
> back into hysterics. I was so disgusted I decided to set her up with
> a box in the back yard (it's fenced) to give her some experience with
> alien smells.
>
> After about 30 min I went to check on her. She was laying with her
> head and paws outside the box. She meowed familiarly when she saw me,
> then about ten seconds later put her ears down and backed away from
> me, hissing and growling. I hadn't even moved. This is crazy!
>

Your cat is not "psycho." This is known as redirected (or misdirected)
aggression. You can read about it here:
http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/aggression3.html

Try to avoid the event that "triggers" this reaction in your cat -- that is,
the sight of other cats. If you see a cat outside, move your cat to another
room. And above all, *do not* reach down to pet another cat, especially
when your own may look out a window and see it.

MaryL
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MaryL

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:24 am
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"MaryL" <stancole1.RemoveThis@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message
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>
> <jibaku.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1183440114.140847.276920@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Seriously, my cat is psycho. After leaving her in the bathroom for a
>> while, I went and washed my hands and arms and changed clothes and
>> then tried petting her. She reluctantly endured it for a minute and
>> meowed in a calm tone. She sniffed me extensively, and then
>> apparently suddenly sensed something she still disapproved of and went
>> back into hysterics. I was so disgusted I decided to set her up with
>> a box in the back yard (it's fenced) to give her some experience with
>> alien smells.
>>
>> After about 30 min I went to check on her. She was laying with her
>> head and paws outside the box. She meowed familiarly when she saw me,
>> then about ten seconds later put her ears down and backed away from
>> me, hissing and growling. I hadn't even moved. This is crazy!
>>
>
> Your cat is not "psycho." This is known as redirected (or misdirected)
> aggression. You can read about it here:
> http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/aggression3.html
>
> Try to avoid the event that "triggers" this reaction in your cat -- that
> is, the sight of other cats. If you see a cat outside, move your cat to
> another room. And above all, *do not* reach down to pet another cat,
> especially when your own may look out a window and see it.
>
> MaryL
>

One additional suggestion: Get a couple of Feliway diffusers and plug them
in areas where you cat is most likely to look out a window and see other
cats.
Feliway is used for behavior modification and can be very useful in reducing
stress. It is available both in plug-in diffusers (with refills available)
and as a spray. The spray is excellent for an occasional use, such as
spraying the carrier about 20 minutes before you take your cat to the vet,
but the plug-in diffuser is better for long-term use because it releases
premeasured doses. Refills can be purchased for the dispenser. One bottle
lasts a little more than a month.

Here is some information from an Ohio State University study on this type of
product: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/11/001129074611.htm

MaryL
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Charlie Wilkes

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:22 am
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:21:54 +0000, jibaku.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>
> After about 30 min I went to check on her. She was laying with her head
> and paws outside the box. She meowed familiarly when she saw me, then
> about ten seconds later put her ears down and backed away from me,
> hissing and growling. I hadn't even moved. This is crazy!

I would leave her alone and stay away from her for a couple of days.

Charlie
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:31 am
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<jibaku.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I had to
> put on some gloves to pick her up by the scruff and put her in the
> bathroom (which is punishment for bad behavior).
-----
From the above statement, it sounds like you routinely put the cat in the
bathroom "for punishment for bad behavior." Why are you "punishing" a cat by
locking her in the bathroom (for any behavior)?. Would you lock a
misbehaving child in a closet? Your cat reacted in accordance with her
natural instinct. She doesn't know that she did something "wrong." The
purpose of "punishment" is so the miscreant will associate a negative
experience (the punishment) with his bad behavior and will be averse to
repeating this behavior. If your cat is scratching the furniture, and you
spritz her with a water bottle, that's a simple cause and effect. But a cat
does not understand the concept of time-out, especially in a situation where
she was behaving in accordance with her instincts rather than by conscious
decision.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
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Rhonda

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:23 am
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Your cat is very upset and now confused, but she is just being a cat.
Punishing her probably upset her more than the original problem. She
smelled the "enemy" cat on you and took out her aggression on you, and
then you turned into the bad guy by locking her up. Now you've put her
in the back yard, reinforcing that you are mean to her and maybe
shouldn't be trusted. She does not know who she can trust now.

I would get her back into her normal routine and be kind to her while
she calms down. Don't push yourself on her, don't get in her face, let
her hide or do what she needs to do. Talk soothingly to her even if she
hisses. If you yell or do something aggressive to her while she's
hissing or acting strange, the situation will quickly spiral out of
control again.

It sounds like this was the first time she directed her anger at you. I
know she drew blood, but don't blame her personally. Be the bigger
person and try to understand her and not take it personally. You were
not who she was upset with, but now you've confused the issue.

My bf once tried to grab one of our cats who was climbing a screen to
try to get at and attack an outdoor cat. The cat wheeled around and sunk
her teeth into his palm, which caused an infection that had to be
treated by a doctor. We did NOT blame the cat, we let her run and hide
and calm down on her own. She was over it in an hour or two.

Good luck to both of you.

Rhonda

jibaku.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> Seriously, my cat is psycho. After leaving her in the bathroom for a
> while, I went and washed my hands and arms and changed clothes and
> then tried petting her. She reluctantly endured it for a minute and
> meowed in a calm tone. She sniffed me extensively, and then
> apparently suddenly sensed something she still disapproved of and went
> back into hysterics. I was so disgusted I decided to set her up with
> a box in the back yard (it's fenced) to give her some experience with
> alien smells.
>
> After about 30 min I went to check on her. She was laying with her
> head and paws outside the box. She meowed familiarly when she saw me,
> then about ten seconds later put her ears down and backed away from
> me, hissing and growling. I hadn't even moved. This is crazy!
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:00 pm
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OMG you have completely described my cat this weekend. She is 3. NEVER
hissed or growled at me. Saturday she freaked, really freaked. We have
a 2 year old and I was fearful for myself and him. We got her into a
laundry basket where she deficated on the floor. We put her in the
extra bathroom with food and liter. She growled everytime I peeked in
for hours. She finally calmed down where my sweet kitty was back. I
let her out (baby was in bed) she went to the top of the stairs and
growled again! I am beyond upset.

Sunday she seemed ok in the morning, we were walking on egg shells
trying not to upset her. She started it again for no reason. I coaxed
her outside to our fenced in deck. She stayed out there all day
because everytime I looked at her she started the growling and hissing
again. We let her in at night (baby in bed) and stayed the hell away
from her.

Today we get up she's fine. We eat and I head off to work. We get home
and she's fine, even let the baby put a cell phone to his ear (I was
right there). Then 10 min later, it started all over again.

I CAN NOT live like this with a baby in the house. That is NOT my cat.
For 3 years she was my baby. She's hissed at my husband, even the
baby, but NEVER at me. And what's worse is she get more worked up when
I'm around....

What could have caused this? She's an indoor cat who's only been
loved. Nothing makes sense....
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:22 am
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On Jul 9, 9:00 pm, jenniferguimar....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> What could have caused this? She's an indoor cat who's only been
> loved. Nothing makes sense....

What does your vet say? You did take her in, right?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:51 pm
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On Jul 10, 1:22 pm, PawsForThought <mickey4p....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 9, 9:00 pm, jenniferguimar....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > What could have caused this? She's an indoor cat who's only been
> > loved. Nothing makes sense....
>
> What does your vet say? You did take her in, right?

yes, they don't think anything is physically wrong, just that she
reacted to something. But she's staying there for 10 days when I have
to decide what to do, With a 2 yr old it makes things tougher.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:57 am
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:51:26 -0700, jenniferguimaraes wrote:

> On Jul 10, 1:22 pm, PawsForThought <mickey4p....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 9, 9:00 pm, jenniferguimar....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > What could have caused this? She's an indoor cat who's only been
>> > loved. Nothing makes sense....
>>
>> What does your vet say? You did take her in, right?
>
> yes, they don't think anything is physically wrong, just that she
> reacted to something. But she's staying there for 10 days when I have to
> decide what to do, With a 2 yr old it makes things tougher.

I have a friend whose cat suddenly changed his stripes, at a ripe old
age. It all started when she was in a flood, and the cat went missing
for a couple of days, and he has never really gotten over it. He used to
be mellow and friendly, but now he will hiss or growl at the slightest
provocation.

I would say, keep the cat away from your child, and keep your child away
from the cat. And don't let the cat sit in your lap or otherwise command
your attention. Be polite, but keep your distance and try to eliminate
all situations where the cat might hiss at you. I suggest this because
of what I have read about animal behavior -- every time you repeat a
situation that triggers an aggressive response, you reinforce the
animal's aggressive tendency.

You might want to seek the advice of an animal behaviorist if it is
within your budget.

Charlie
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