What breed to get

<bigjcw1023 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Looking for a medium large dog that sheds very little and has a good
> temperment with kids and not high stung and obnoxious.
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You can check out this list on the AKC site for information on individual
breeds. There is also a link that breaks them down into groups.
The second link I posted is for the non-shedding breeds listed on that same
site. Most non-shedding breeds have to be groomed and cut on a regular
basis to keep their hair from becoming matted. When reviewing the breeds of
interest to you, always read up on the temperment of each breed and their
requirement for exercise.

AKC breeds
http://www.akc.org/breeds/index.cfm?nav_area=breeds#

AKC non shedding breeds
http://www.akc.org/about/faq_allergies.cfm?SEARCH_BUTTON.X=0\&SEARCH_BUTTON.Y=0
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> Looking for a medium large dog that sheds very little and has a good
> temperment with kids and not high stung and obnoxious.
>.

standard poodle!
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"MauiJNP" <jmh1116.RemoveThis@ptd.net> said in rec.pets.dogs.breeds:

>> Looking for a medium large dog that sheds very little and
>> has a good temperment with kids and not high stung and
>> obnoxious.

> standard poodle!

FWIW, Standard Poodles tend to be one of the more dog-aggressive
breeds I know. That said, I know a few who are wonderful, and
maybe the nasty ones I see come from one breeder's lines.

Also, FWIW, I rarely see someone recommend their breed of choice
to "what breed for me" posts. While herding dogs are my type of
choice, when I do recommend them the recommendation comes with a
long list of caveats.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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Rocky wrote:

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> Also, FWIW, I rarely see someone recommend their breed of choice
> to "what breed for me" posts. While herding dogs are my type of
> choice, when I do recommend them the recommendation comes with a
> long list of caveats.

Amen. Our household census includes 2 bcs, a jrt and a mustang, and
with rare exceptions, I tend to try to talk people out of any of the above.
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>>> Looking for a medium large dog that sheds very little and
>>> has a good temperment with kids and not high stung and
>>> obnoxious.
>
>> standard poodle!
>
> FWIW, Standard Poodles tend to be one of the more dog-aggressive
> breeds I know. That said, I know a few who are wonderful, and
> maybe the nasty ones I see come from one breeder's lines.
>

I had no idea. I've know few standards but they didn't have that problem.


> Also, FWIW, I rarely see someone recommend their breed of choice
> to "what breed for me" posts. While herding dogs are my type of
> choice, when I do recommend them the recommendation comes with a
> long list of caveats.
>

I recommended the poodle to people who don't like shedding when the other
things seem to fit as well (good with kids, etc). I can see how not
everyone can do that because of their breeds.
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"MauiJNP" <jmh1116.TakeThisOut@ptd.net> said in rec.pets.dogs.breeds:

> I recommended the poodle to people who don't like shedding
> when the other things seem to fit as well (good with kids,
> etc). I can see how not everyone can do that because of
> their breeds.

The only reason I stuck my nose into this thread was because
your recommendation was simply "standard poodle!".

If that's enough for you wrt recommending a breed to someone you
don't know, that's fine. Me, I tend to go the opposite way,
telling people stuff they probably don't want to hear.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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>> I recommended the poodle to people who don't like shedding
>> when the other things seem to fit as well (good with kids,
>> etc). I can see how not everyone can do that because of
>> their breeds.
>
> The only reason I stuck my nose into this thread was because
> your recommendation was simply "standard poodle!".
>

I intended the recommendation be something that the OP can do further
research on while gaving him/her a possible starting place. in my
experience, poodles can be what he/she asked for so I thought that would be
enough. also, it was late and i was tired. if the OP is interested, they
can post more specific questions to get more info/details. if standard
poodles are a definate no or immediate turnoff, then i saved my time not
doing a more detailed post in the beginning.


> If that's enough for you wrt recommending a breed to someone you
> don't know, that's fine. Me, I tend to go the opposite way,
> telling people stuff they probably don't want to hear.
>

is there a reason for this?

In general, when I enjoy something, I like to share it and hope others will
too. WRT dogs, I think poodles can make great pets (for certain owners) and
maybe even the OP.
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"MauiJNP" <jmh1116.TakeThisOut@ptd.net> wrote in
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> I intended the recommendation be something that the OP can do
> further research on while gaving him/her a possible starting
> place.

Too often, answers such as yours are seen as an end point, not a
starting point. Do you want the OP to see your recommendation, then
go out and get a Standard Poodle, just because you said so? My
experience is that most folks don't bother to do much, if any,
research, before getting a dog, so what little the OP has done may be
all he intends to do.

> if standard poodles are a definate no or immediate turnoff, then i
> saved my time not doing a more detailed post in the beginning.

Not recommending one at all would have saved you even more time. The
consequences are potentially deadly for the dog in question, so if
you don't have time to find out more before making a specific
suggestion, maybe it's best not to make one at all.

> is there a reason for this?

I can't speak for Matt, but I don't usually recommend my breed to
people unless I have a good idea of their personality and living
situation. Boxers aren't for everyone, and I don't want to be
responsible for any more of them ending up in inappropriate hands.

--
Shelly
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http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)
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"MauiJNP" <jmh1116 RemoveThis @ptd.net> said in rec.pets.dogs.breeds:

>> If that's enough for you wrt recommending a breed to
>> someone you don't know, that's fine. Me, I tend to go the
>> opposite way, telling people stuff they probably don't
>> want to hear.

> is there a reason for this?

Because, if it's a breed I know intimately, I recognise the
negatives. I see owners who, because a dog fits well into their
lifestyle, are so used to the downsides of that breed than they
no longer even bring them to discussion.

That's the downside of an off the cuff recommendation. The OP
has no idea of your knowledge and may err on the side of
impulse.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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>
> Because, if it's a breed I know intimately, I recognise the
> negatives. I see owners who, because a dog fits well into their
> lifestyle, are so used to the downsides of that breed than they
> no longer even bring them to discussion.
>
> That's the downside of an off the cuff recommendation. The OP
> has no idea of your knowledge and may err on the side of
> impulse.
>

I see what you are saying but I can't imagine anyone simply running out
and getting a standard poodle based on the info I provided (just the name of
the breed). I would hope they would see that as a possible starting point
and maybe look into the breed to see if it fits what they want. Certainly
one thing the OP would find is that it fits their "no or low shedding"
stipulation. Anyway, I don't see the problem so much with giving blind
advice as much as I see a problem with following advice blindly.
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>> I intended the recommendation be something that the OP can do
>> further research on while gaving him/her a possible starting
>> place.
>
> Too often, answers such as yours are seen as an end point, not a
> starting point. Do you want the OP to see your recommendation, then
> go out and get a Standard Poodle, just because you said so?

no, I didn't intend that, like I said, I wanted it to be a starting point
for them.


>My
> experience is that most folks don't bother to do much, if any,
> research, before getting a dog, so what little the OP has done may be
> all he intends to do.
>

I doubt their next step is too run out and buy the first breed that was
recommended to them. I do think problems can arise when people assume, like
I am now, but assuming that things will go badly (and will be my fault),
simply because I suggested a possible breed of dog for the OP as a starting
point, is not fair either.


>
>> if standard poodles are a definate no or immediate turnoff, then i
>> saved my time not doing a more detailed post in the beginning.
>
> Not recommending one at all would have saved you even more time.
>

clearly so. especially with all this semi-OT stuff.

>
>The
> consequences are potentially deadly for the dog in question, so if
> you don't have time to find out more before making a specific
> suggestion, maybe it's best not to make one at all.
>
>
>> is there a reason for this?
>
> I can't speak for Matt, but I don't usually recommend my breed to
> people unless I have a good idea of their personality and living
> situation. Boxers aren't for everyone, and I don't want to be
> responsible for any more of them ending up in inappropriate hands.
>

this depends on people's definitions of responsible. for example, by
sharing pictures and funny stories of Harriet to others, you may be tempting
others to run out and buy a boxer. if they do and things go badly, are you
resposible simply because you posted here?
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"MauiJNP" <jmh1116 RemoveThis @ptd.net> said in rec.pets.dogs.breeds:

> Anyway, I don't see the problem so much with giving blind
> advice as much as I see a problem with following advice
> blindly.

OK then.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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>
>> Anyway, I don't see the problem so much with giving blind
>> advice as much as I see a problem with following advice
>> blindly.
>
> OK then.
>

in re-reading that, it might have come off wrong. There are times when I
see giving advice blindly is a bad idea, ranging from "maybe not the best
idea" to "very horrible bad idea". But, I also think that following advice
blindly is always worse.

in my opinion, what i did falls under the range of "maybe not the best
idea". taking into account my intentions, though were not easily perfectly
clear, were in the spirit of being nice/helpful.
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