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Since: Sep 23, 2007 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:20 pm
Post subject: "blacklights" found in pet stores, don't work for me Archived from groups: rec>pets>cats>health+behav (more info?)
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Hi, one of my 2 kitties is peeing on my bed sometimes. He isn't ill,
just nervous kind of guy. It's OK, I use tarp under the sheets and
wash the sheets. I want to make sure he doesn't do that elsewhere, on
carpets. So I bought the "blacklight/UV" light found in pet stores.
It does not seem to work!
After he pees on the sheets, I darken the room and use the light to
see how it works. Well, it does not - nothing shows up. Nothing
shows up when the urine is fresh. Nothing shows up when it's dried.
Nothing shows up even when it's night and everything is pitch black.
I tried 2 different brands, one of them really big, lots of
batteries. Nothing. I look really carefully and follow instructions
carefully. Make sure the batteries are new. Nothing, even when I can
see and smell the urine myself.
So of course this is never going to work on carpet or anywhere else.
What's going on? Why don't they work? Is there one urine detector
that really works? I have seen this thing AntiIckyPoo UV flashlight -
it does not use batteries, but extension cord and electricity from an
outlet, and is really expensive $70 (the lights found in pet stores
are $30 or less). Is this going to work?
Please give me recommendations. Thank you very much.
Mark Galeck >> Stay informed about: ""blacklights"" found in pet stores, don't work for me |
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Since: Sep 23, 2007 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:31 pm
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Since: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 1874
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:33 pm
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www.urinegone.com comes with a blacklight I have had no problems using it
before
it is about $25.00
"Mark_Galeck" wrote in message
> Hi, one of my 2 kitties is peeing on my bed sometimes. He isn't ill,
> just nervous kind of guy. It's OK, I use tarp under the sheets and
> wash the sheets. I want to make sure he doesn't do that elsewhere, on
> carpets. So I bought the "blacklight/UV" light found in pet stores.
> It does not seem to work!
>
> After he pees on the sheets, I darken the room and use the light to
> see how it works. Well, it does not - nothing shows up. Nothing
> shows up when the urine is fresh. Nothing shows up when it's dried.
> Nothing shows up even when it's night and everything is pitch black.
> I tried 2 different brands, one of them really big, lots of
> batteries. Nothing. I look really carefully and follow instructions
> carefully. Make sure the batteries are new. Nothing, even when I can
> see and smell the urine myself.
>
> So of course this is never going to work on carpet or anywhere else.
>
>
> What's going on? Why don't they work? Is there one urine detector
> that really works? I have seen this thing AntiIckyPoo UV flashlight -
> it does not use batteries, but extension cord and electricity from an
> outlet, and is really expensive $70 (the lights found in pet stores
> are $30 or less). Is this going to work?
>
> Please give me recommendations. Thank you very much.
>
> Mark Galeck
> >> Stay informed about: ""blacklights"" found in pet stores, don't work for me |
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Since: Sep 23, 2007 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:21 pm
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On Sep 23, 7:06 pm, "cybercat" wrote:
> "Mark_Galeck" wrote in message
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> Why on earth do you NEED a black light to see where pee is? Follow your
> nose. Look for the wet spot.
Thank you for your advice. But if a cat pees while I am at work, by
the time I am back, there is no wet spot, there may be a vague smell,
and if so, I can't tell exactly where the smell is coming from. Human
noses are not good enough for that. If they were, blacklights would
not sell. Let me return an advice for you - if you have such a
wonderful directional nose, why don't you hire yourself as a dog
sniffing bags at the airport? Thanks. >> Stay informed about: ""blacklights"" found in pet stores, don't work for me |
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Since: Mar 27, 2007 Posts: 433
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:45 pm
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"Matthew" wrote in message
> www.urinegone.com comes with a blacklight I have had no problems using
> it before
> it is about $25.00
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I bought urinegone with the black light on e-bay, and that black light
didn't work for me either. I'm glad to know I'm not the only person with
this problem.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
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> "Mark_Galeck" wrote in message
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>> Hi, one of my 2 kitties is peeing on my bed sometimes. He isn't ill,
>> just nervous kind of guy. It's OK, I use tarp under the sheets and
>> wash the sheets. I want to make sure he doesn't do that elsewhere, on
>> carpets. So I bought the "blacklight/UV" light found in pet stores.
>> It does not seem to work!
>>
>> After he pees on the sheets, I darken the room and use the light to
>> see how it works. Well, it does not - nothing shows up. Nothing
>> shows up when the urine is fresh. Nothing shows up when it's dried.
>> Nothing shows up even when it's night and everything is pitch black.
>> I tried 2 different brands, one of them really big, lots of
>> batteries. Nothing. I look really carefully and follow instructions
>> carefully. Make sure the batteries are new. Nothing, even when I can
>> see and smell the urine myself.
>>
>> So of course this is never going to work on carpet or anywhere else.
>>
>>
>> What's going on? Why don't they work? Is there one urine detector
>> that really works? I have seen this thing AntiIckyPoo UV flashlight -
>> it does not use batteries, but extension cord and electricity from an
>> outlet, and is really expensive $70 (the lights found in pet stores
>> are $30 or less). Is this going to work?
>>
>> Please give me recommendations. Thank you very much.
>>
>> Mark Galeck
>>
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> >> Stay informed about: ""blacklights"" found in pet stores, don't work for me |
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Since: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 1874
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:50 pm
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"Mark_Galeck" wrote in message
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> well thank you I appreciate your reply, but this item looks exactly
> like the ones I bought... it's even smaller and free add-on... do
> you know why this one would work and the others did not? Thank you
> again, I know I am being picky, it's just that I tried others like
> this one...
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Is it only on the bed or does it show it elsewhere. If it is the bed it
might be the material. Not sure I use mine when I stay in hotels to show
what has been missed >> Stay informed about: ""blacklights"" found in pet stores, don't work for me |
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Since: Nov 30, 2006 Posts: 1300
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:06 pm
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"Mark_Galeck" wrote in message
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> well thank you I appreciate your reply, but this item looks exactly
> like the ones I bought... it's even smaller and free add-on... do
> you know why this one would work and the others did not? Thank you
> again, I know I am being picky, it's just that I tried others like
> this one...
Why on earth do you NEED a black light to see where pee is? Follow your
nose. Look for the wet spot.
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Since: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 1874
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:06 pm
Post subject: Re: "blacklights" found in pet stores, don't work for me [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I will admit that they are cheap pieces of work. Mine that I got burn the
bulbs out quick. I put a higher rating one in there no problems since but
it went thru 2 bulbs before I found the correct one.
http://www.blacklight.com is where I got the better bulbs but that was a
while ago.
I found a better product called nature's miracle to remove urine.
You weren't the only one Cindy
"cindys" wrote in message
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> "Matthew" wrote in message
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>> www.urinegone.com comes with a blacklight I have had no problems using
>> it before
>> it is about $25.00
> -----------
> I bought urinegone with the black light on e-bay, and that black light
> didn't work for me either. I'm glad to know I'm not the only person with
> this problem.
> Best regards,
> ---Cindy S.
>
>
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>> "Mark_Galeck" wrote in message
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>>> Hi, one of my 2 kitties is peeing on my bed sometimes. He isn't ill,
>>> just nervous kind of guy. It's OK, I use tarp under the sheets and
>>> wash the sheets. I want to make sure he doesn't do that elsewhere, on
>>> carpets. So I bought the "blacklight/UV" light found in pet stores.
>>> It does not seem to work!
>>>
>>> After he pees on the sheets, I darken the room and use the light to
>>> see how it works. Well, it does not - nothing shows up. Nothing
>>> shows up when the urine is fresh. Nothing shows up when it's dried.
>>> Nothing shows up even when it's night and everything is pitch black.
>>> I tried 2 different brands, one of them really big, lots of
>>> batteries. Nothing. I look really carefully and follow instructions
>>> carefully. Make sure the batteries are new. Nothing, even when I can
>>> see and smell the urine myself.
>>>
>>> So of course this is never going to work on carpet or anywhere else.
>>>
>>>
>>> What's going on? Why don't they work? Is there one urine detector
>>> that really works? I have seen this thing AntiIckyPoo UV flashlight -
>>> it does not use batteries, but extension cord and electricity from an
>>> outlet, and is really expensive $70 (the lights found in pet stores
>>> are $30 or less). Is this going to work?
>>>
>>> Please give me recommendations. Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Mark Galeck
>>>
>>
>>
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Since: Mar 27, 2007 Posts: 433
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:58 pm
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"Matthew" wrote in message
>I will admit that they are cheap pieces of work. Mine that I got burn the
>bulbs out quick. I put a higher rating one in there no problems since but
>it went thru 2 bulbs before I found the correct one.
>http://www.blacklight.com is where I got the better bulbs but that was a
>while ago.
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> I found a better product called nature's miracle to remove urine.
>
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I agree the Nature's Miracle is like a miracle. Another product which also
works really well is SimpleSolution. To my experience, the two are
interchangeable. I buy them by the gallon.
Best regards,
---Cindy S. >> Stay informed about: ""blacklights"" found in pet stores, don't work for me |
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Since: Mar 27, 2007 Posts: 433
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:50 pm
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"cybercat" wrote in message
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> "Mark_Galeck" wrote in message
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>> well thank you I appreciate your reply, but this item looks exactly
>> like the ones I bought... it's even smaller and free add-on... do
>> you know why this one would work and the others did not? Thank you
>> again, I know I am being picky, it's just that I tried others like
>> this one...
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> Why on earth do you NEED a black light to see where pee is? Follow your
> nose. Look for the wet spot.
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Sometimes it's not wet anymore. I have come downstairs at times and smelled
it. I knew it was somewhere in the living room but not sure exactly where.
Sometimes, there are multiple spots. For the first 16 years of Molly's life
she used her litter box without fail, but in her last year, when she was
elderly and maybe a little confused, she decided that the living room
carpeting, mostly behind the couch, made a perfect litter box. (She did not
have a urinary tract infection - I had her checked). She must have used that
spot dozens and dozens of times. But she actually went in many places all
over the living room. We pulled up the carpeting behind the couch and
treated the wooden floor with Nature's Miracle and vinegar to eliminate the
odor. The odor is gone but the floor is still stained black. Eventually, we
will pull up all the carpeting, and replace the damaged sections of wood.
But my point is that its not always so easy to find the spot, especially
when "the spot" is actually multiple "spots."
Best regards,
---Cindy S. >> Stay informed about: ""blacklights"" found in pet stores, don't work for me |
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Since: Sep 23, 2007 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:03 am
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Great! This may be what I needed. For some reason the wavelength is
wrong. Even the ones found in pet stores, could be wrong
wavelength.
In the meantime, being a guy, I went for "brute force" method (which
may be invalidated by your remark). I went to a big hardware store
and bought the biggest UV lamps I could find, 80 Watts total, much
bigger than anything sold in pet food stores, operated from an outlet,
so I also bought a long extension cord. This thing is so bright I
better don't walk around with naked skin or I might get sunburned or
something :) I pointed it at my Litter Robot drawer, with urine
clumps from 2 different cats (thinking that maybe my aforementioned
cat is weird and does not have that particular thing in the urine that
makes it show under UV).
NOPE. None of the clumps glow even the faintest. Everything else in
the bathroom glows like crazy (my bathroom is orderly, but, uhm, not
super-clean let's say), but the cat urine clumps - no.
OK then, DougD is really on to something and I need to find out the
proper wavelength. Quick research on the web finds that the "Urine-
off" brand UV light, does advertise that it has the proper wavelength,
OK I will try it.
Thanks Doug! >> Stay informed about: ""blacklights"" found in pet stores, don't work for me |
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Since: Nov 30, 2006 Posts: 1300
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:36 am
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"Mark_Galeck" wrote in message
> On Sep 23, 7:06 pm, "cybercat" wrote:
>> "Mark_Galeck" wrote in message
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>> Why on earth do you NEED a black light to see where pee is? Follow your
>> nose. Look for the wet spot.
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> Thank you for your advice. But if a cat pees while I am at work, by
> the time I am back, there is no wet spot
Wow. Are your cats really, really tiny?
Because when my cat gets mad at us and pees on the
carpet, there is a big wet spot. Even 24 hours later. >> Stay informed about: ""blacklights"" found in pet stores, don't work for me |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:37 am
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"Mark_Galeck" wrote>
Let me return an advice for you - if you have such a
> wonderful directional nose, why don't you hire yourself as a dog
> sniffing bags at the airport? Thanks.
>
How did you know what I do for a living? Are you stalking me?
Mark. :
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Once a day, maybe while your coffee is brewing or your
mail is downloading or your wife is talking to you and you
are ignoring her, walk around the rug in your bare feet.
There's a really good chance the wet spot is cat urine.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:45 am
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In article , Mark_Galeck wrote:
>Hi, one of my 2 kitties is peeing on my bed sometimes. He isn't ill,
>just nervous kind of guy. It's OK, I use tarp under the sheets and
>wash the sheets. I want to make sure he doesn't do that elsewhere, on
>carpets. So I bought the "blacklight/UV" light found in pet stores.
>It does not seem to work!
>
>After he pees on the sheets, I darken the room and use the light to
>see how it works. Well, it does not - nothing shows up. Nothing
>shows up when the urine is fresh. Nothing shows up when it's dried.
>Nothing shows up even when it's night and everything is pitch black.
>I tried 2 different brands, one of them really big, lots of
>batteries. Nothing. I look really carefully and follow instructions
>carefully. Make sure the batteries are new. Nothing, even when I can
>see and smell the urine myself.
>
>So of course this is never going to work on carpet or anywhere else.
>
>
>What's going on? Why don't they work? Is there one urine detector
>that really works? I have seen this thing AntiIckyPoo UV flashlight -
>it does not use batteries, but extension cord and electricity from an
>outlet, and is really expensive $70 (the lights found in pet stores
>are $30 or less). Is this going to work?
Not all blacklights are the same wavelength. Urine flouresceses at
a particular wavelength, and the black lights sold in party stores,
etc. is not the right wavelength. I don't have the particulars in front
of me which is the correct UV band to light up urine, sorry. I suspect
that if you can find a blacklight that is also used to check for counterfeit
money, it will probably also work for spotting stains, I believe that they
are in the same UV band. But please, I'm not guarantee'ing that, but
I am fairly sure about the party type lights not working as I have one
as well and it doesn't work on stains. Some gem/rock collecting folks
use these as well, might be somewhere to look for a supplier as they
will have blacklights in different bands. I believe the urine glows under
UB B type lights, the party ones are UV A.
$.02
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:30 am
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Mark_Galeck wrote:
> Great! This may be what I needed. For some reason the wavelength is
> wrong. Even the ones found in pet stores, could be wrong
> wavelength.
>
> In the meantime, being a guy, I went for "brute force" method (which
> may be invalidated by your remark). I went to a big hardware store
> and bought the biggest UV lamps I could find, 80 Watts total, much
> bigger than anything sold in pet food stores, operated from an outlet,
> so I also bought a long extension cord. This thing is so bright I
> better don't walk around with naked skin or I might get sunburned or
> something :) I pointed it at my Litter Robot drawer, with urine
> clumps from 2 different cats (thinking that maybe my aforementioned
> cat is weird and does not have that particular thing in the urine that
> makes it show under UV).
>
> NOPE. None of the clumps glow even the faintest. Everything else in
> the bathroom glows like crazy (my bathroom is orderly, but, uhm, not
> super-clean let's say), but the cat urine clumps - no.
>
> OK then, DougD is really on to something and I need to find out the
> proper wavelength. Quick research on the web finds that the "Urine-
> off" brand UV light, does advertise that it has the proper wavelength,
> OK I will try it.
>
> Thanks Doug!
>
>
This is a timely discussion for me, so thanks for starting the
thread. My one attempt to locate cat urine using a blacklight
was unsuccessful, and now I know why. I will also have to get
the above mentioned kind, which I suppose is not in pet
stores.... I can smell the cat pee, but I can't pinpoint it
precisely....
--
Jean B. >> Stay informed about: ""blacklights"" found in pet stores, don't work for me |
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