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Since: Oct 03, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 6:29 am
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I have just lost my wonderful, beloved almost 10 year old rottweiler. I
have had him since he was weeks old.
When he was 3, I got a german shepherd, female, she was 3 months old
when I got her.
They have been together constantly since.
My question is about my now 7 year old german shepherd. How does it
affect her to lose a companion that has been in her life for almost 7 years?
I have been devastated by the loss, but I stopped expressing my feelings
in front of her, because I thought it might upset her.
I have noticed that she is carrying a squeaky toy with her constantly,
and she did have loose stools right after the death of my rottie.
She also, sometimes whines, very quietly, at bedtime. She never has
whined before.
My rottie was put down here at home.
She saw her friend "afterwards" but totally ignored his body.
I took to the crematorium the day after.
We are suppose to go overseas, where I am from, but I feel it would be
too hard for her right now. I am considering taking her along, in fact.
How do dogs deal with loss??
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 6:29 am
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"LL" <mig2043 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I have noticed that she is carrying a squeaky toy with her constantly,
> and she did have loose stools right after the death of my rottie.
> She also, sometimes whines, very quietly, at bedtime. She never has
> whined before.
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> We are suppose to go overseas, where I am from, but I feel it would be
> too hard for her right now. I am considering taking her along, in fact.
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> How do dogs deal with loss??
I can't really answer your question - I have not had a dog lose a canine
companion before. I do know that if I leave the home for a few days, my
dogs look for me. When we've had a foster for a while that the boys like,
they mope for a few days when that foster goes to a forever home. Dogs are
extremely affectionate and loyal, and though it is perhaps incorrect to
attribute human emotion to them, I perceive their actions as those of a
feeling being experiencing loss. The scientific explanation could be that
dogs have a more highly tuned sense of structure, and the loss of a pack
member disrupts the structure they depend on for survival. Either way, your
girl is clearly having some difficulty adjusting to the loss of her friend.
8 hours in the cold belly of a plane is a terrible ordeal for any dog, are
you sure you want to subject her to it? Also, I would check into quarantine
rules for taking your dog wherever you are planning on traveling. It would
be a miserable trip if she had to spend weeks in quarantine. You would
probably be better off getting a reputable pet-sitter to come stay in your
home with your dog and keep her normal schedule in place. This would be
much less stressful for her than overseas travel.
So sorry about the loss of your rottie. It is devastating to lose a dog, I
have been there and I know what it feels like.
Take care
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:04 pm
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Look at it this way....
Just like people, dogs react in some way to every major, and sometimes
minor, changes in their lives. Sometimes a dog will show mourning in
some way... looking for the companion that disappeared, going off their
feed, restlessness... just obviously upset. Sometimes a dog will react
with pleasure at being rid of the other dog's presence! And sometimes
the dog will not seem to show much concern at all.
What WILL be most important to your dog now is YOU. If you are making a
permanent move, yes, take the dog with you. If you are just going for a
visit, either hire a pet sitter (will come to your house only a couple
of times a day, at most), or take the dog to a good boarding kennel.
Other dog owners can recommend good ones. My dogs happen to enjoy the
kennel I use; they like the owners, they like the time they spend
outside in runs, and are in no major rush to come home with me after a
joyous greeting. The cost of a good boarding kennel will usually be
less than that for a pet sitter for one dog.
Jo Wolf
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 3:01 pm
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LL wrote:
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> I have just lost my wonderful, beloved almost 10 year old rottweiler. I
> have had him since he was weeks old.
> When he was 3, I got a german shepherd, female, she was 3 months old
> when I got her.
>
> They have been together constantly since.
> My question is about my now 7 year old german shepherd. How does it
> affect her to lose a companion that has been in her life for almost 7 years?
> I have been devastated by the loss, but I stopped expressing my feelings
> in front of her, because I thought it might upset her.
>
Just like you, your German Shepherd will grieve for her lost companion.
The "loose stools" is a definite sign that she is stressed out. She should
be fairly okay in a couple of weeks at most...but it may take two or
three months for her to accept that her buddy is gone...in my experience.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:36 am
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Dear Liselotte,
So sorry to hear about your loss. Having gone through a similar situation
myself, I know how difficult it is.
Two years ago, we lost our beloved Spartacus, a male GSD, to liver cancer.
He was barely five years old.
Zeus, our mischievious male rottie, was heartbroken. They were best of pals
since the first moment they met. At that time, Zeus was only four months
and Spartacus ten months old. They were very active, happy dogs. Zeus was
for ever chasing and playing ambushing tricks on Spartacus since he wasn't
as swift. We used to say; here goes the bull and the gazelle! They were
really enjoying each others company.
When Spartacus passed away, Zeus became depressed. He stopped eating for
two days and was no longer interested in going outside other than to do his
things. For the longest time, he would just lie there, not doing anything.
Total loss of interest. Slowly, he overcame his loneliness although we
could not get him to run as he used to in the fields. This last summer, a
dog park was created in our neighborhood and finally Zeus has regained his
joy of running, chasing and ambushing his new doggy friends.
Does Zeus still miss and remember Spartacus? I would think so, but who can
say for sure?
Good luck to you and your loyal companion in these difficult times.
Best,
Monika
"LL" <mig2043.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I have just lost my wonderful, beloved almost 10 year old rottweiler. I
> have had him since he was weeks old.
> When he was 3, I got a german shepherd, female, she was 3 months old
> when I got her.
>
> They have been together constantly since.
> My question is about my now 7 year old german shepherd. How does it
> affect her to lose a companion that has been in her life for almost 7
years?
> I have been devastated by the loss, but I stopped expressing my feelings
> in front of her, because I thought it might upset her.
>
> I have noticed that she is carrying a squeaky toy with her constantly,
> and she did have loose stools right after the death of my rottie.
> She also, sometimes whines, very quietly, at bedtime. She never has
> whined before.
> My rottie was put down here at home.
> She saw her friend "afterwards" but totally ignored his body.
> I took to the crematorium the day after.
>
> We are suppose to go overseas, where I am from, but I feel it would be
> too hard for her right now. I am considering taking her along, in fact.
>
> How do dogs deal with loss??
>
> Liselotte
> >> Stay informed about: behavior question |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:35 am
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What a touching story. Thanks for sharing it with me.
I am very attentive to her right now, plus it helps a little to focus on
her.
One thing I just don't get, and that is, that when the vet was "done",
here in my house. Basse was lying on a comforter on the floor. I let
Daisi in the room, thinking she might want to go and "say goodbye" to
Basse, but she totally ignored him on the floor. Did not go near him.
Acting as if he was not there. That was strange. My husband has his own
dog, and that one came right up to Basse, he was very curious, as was
our cat.
Liselotte,
ps, my rottweiler had osteosarcoma, which I have now learned is very
common in Rottweilers.
Monika I. Neszvecsko wrote:
> Dear Liselotte,
> So sorry to hear about your loss. Having gone through a similar situation
> myself, I know how difficult it is.
> Two years ago, we lost our beloved Spartacus, a male GSD, to liver cancer.
> He was barely five years old.
> Zeus, our mischievious male rottie, was heartbroken. They were best of pals
> since the first moment they met. At that time, Zeus was only four months
> and Spartacus ten months old. They were very active, happy dogs. Zeus was
> for ever chasing and playing ambushing tricks on Spartacus since he wasn't
> as swift. We used to say; here goes the bull and the gazelle! They were
> really enjoying each others company.
> When Spartacus passed away, Zeus became depressed. He stopped eating for
> two days and was no longer interested in going outside other than to do his
> things. For the longest time, he would just lie there, not doing anything.
> Total loss of interest. Slowly, he overcame his loneliness although we
> could not get him to run as he used to in the fields. This last summer, a
> dog park was created in our neighborhood and finally Zeus has regained his
> joy of running, chasing and ambushing his new doggy friends.
> Does Zeus still miss and remember Spartacus? I would think so, but who can
> say for sure?
> Good luck to you and your loyal companion in these difficult times.
> Best,
> Monika
>
>
> "LL" <mig2043.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6H8fb.673301$uu5.110403@sccrnsc04...
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>>I have just lost my wonderful, beloved almost 10 year old rottweiler. I
>>have had him since he was weeks old.
>>When he was 3, I got a german shepherd, female, she was 3 months old
>>when I got her.
>>
>>They have been together constantly since.
>>My question is about my now 7 year old german shepherd. How does it
>>affect her to lose a companion that has been in her life for almost 7
>
> years?
>
>>I have been devastated by the loss, but I stopped expressing my feelings
>>in front of her, because I thought it might upset her.
>>
>>I have noticed that she is carrying a squeaky toy with her constantly,
>>and she did have loose stools right after the death of my rottie.
>>She also, sometimes whines, very quietly, at bedtime. She never has
>>whined before.
>>My rottie was put down here at home.
>>She saw her friend "afterwards" but totally ignored his body.
>>I took to the crematorium the day after.
>>
>>We are suppose to go overseas, where I am from, but I feel it would be
>>too hard for her right now. I am considering taking her along, in fact.
>>
>>How do dogs deal with loss??
>>
>>Liselotte
>>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 5:17 pm
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LL wrote:
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> [snip...] [snip...] [snip...]
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> One thing I just don't get, and that is, that when the vet was "done",
> here in my house. Basse was lying on a comforter on the floor. I let
> Daisi in the room, thinking she might want to go and "say goodbye" to
> Basse, but she totally ignored him on the floor. Did not go near him.
> Acting as if he was not there. That was strange. My husband has his own
> dog, and that one came right up to Basse, he was very curious, as was
> our cat.
>
Perhaps Daisi was "in denial"...she was *not* ready to face
that her best friend was gone. People often have their own
ways to be "in denial"...so I think that is understandable
for Daisi also.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 7:10 pm
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This same behavior took place when I had to have my senior greyhound put
down, at home.
Of my five other dogs, who I let into the room afterwards, only the youngest
one barked savagely, as if trying to wake King up. The others walked around
him, not looking at him, as if they knew he was no longer there.
> One thing I just don't get, and that is, that when the vet was "done",
> here in my house. Basse was lying on a comforter on the floor. I let
> Daisi in the room, thinking she might want to go and "say goodbye" to
> Basse, but she totally ignored him on the floor. Did not go near him.
> Acting as if he was not there. That was strange. My husband has his own
> dog, and that one came right up to Basse, he was very curious, as was
> our cat. >> Stay informed about: behavior question |
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