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Jonathan Ball

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 5:57 pm
Post subject: "ar" is an aggressive and violent fascistic movement; "Zakhar" is
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"Zakhar" (not the real name of the evil Nazi midget)
willingly wrote: "I want people to make the correct
choice". "Zakhar" believes, like any benighted
fascist, that HE knows, gets to *define*, what is the
"correct" choice. He wants to impose his view of
"correct" on everyone. He will commit murder in order
to do so. All "aras" are murderous fascists at heart.

The world will no longer sit idly by, allowing
murderous fascists to gather strength to launch their
evil wars.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Liar Jon admits that meant his lie as an example not evidence [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Jonathan Ball" <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
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> farrell77 wrote:
>
> > "Jonathan Ball" <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
> > news:cV93b.6074$3E.3168@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> >>Lying Sophist Boob wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Jonathan Ball" <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
> >>>news:8p93b.6053$3E.1159@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Lying Sophist Boob wrote:
> >>>>
> >>
> >>>>>Nope. The statement that Zakhar made is neither illegal nor
> >>>>>aggressive.
> >>>>
> >>>>Nor did I say it was, moron. ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Yep, you did, Liar Jon.
> >>
> >>No, inept lying Sophist Boob, I didn't, and you know I
> >>didn't.
> >
> >
> > I KNOW without a doubt that you did.
>
> No. YOu KNOW without a doubt that I didn't. ...

False, Liar Jon.


> ...You are
> addicted to lying.

I don't lie. You do. That's why you're called Liar Jon.


> >>>>...You lost that one,
> >>>>remember? I never used the word "example". When
> >>>>asked, I used the word "evidence".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>You changed your claim when it was exposed as a lie.
> >>
> >>I didn't change my claim.
> >
> >
> > Yep. Even now you're trying to change it from example to
> > evidence.
>
> No. You have dwelt at length on an ambiguity, an
> ambiguity due to your faulty intellect and your
> addiction to lying and sophistry.

There was no ambiguity. You were asked for examples and
you thought you were providing one.


> I haven't changed anything.

So you were giving an example then. As shown, it was false.

Dance around all you want, Liar Jon. The relevant
exchange is this one:

*************************
"Zakhar": Give examples of my illegal aggression bully boy.

Jon [quoting "Zakhar"] "I want people to make
the correct choice".
*************************

If you were giving evidence rather than responding to his request for
examples, then you would have said so.


[...]

> It clearly is not, Sophist Boob. Here's the actual
> exchange, verbatim:
>
> "Zakhar" (not his real name): So you're going to shoot me?
>
> Jon, the liberty-loving democrat: If you try to impose
> your choice on me, yes, I will. Only in that case. I
> am not an aggressive person. You are inherently
> aggressive, as your illegitimate with [sic; "wish"] to
> impose choices on others shows.

And your example of illegal aggression from him that would
merit such a response on your part was his claim: "I want
people to make the correct choice".

You're the liar, Liar Jon.


[...]

> >>>>>You often claim to know what's in the minds of others.
> >>>>
> >>>>I correctly infer what's in the minds of others.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>So can I.
> >>
> >>No, you can't.
> >
> >
> > Yes I can. At least as well as you can.
>
> No, you can't do it at all. I can, and I know.

No, you can't. I can and I know.


> >>>I can correctly infer lots of what's in your mind,
> >>>for example.
> >>
> >>Nope. You have consistently exhibited zero talent at this.
> >
> >
> > I've exhibited great talent.
>
> Zero talent.

At least as much as you and very probably more.

But it's a pointless argument, so why don't you stop pretending
to know what others think and just respond to what they say?


> >>>>>What makes you the only one able to do that?
> >>>>
> >>>>Inherent talent, and practice.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>What a coincidence! I have both of those too.
> >>
> >>No, clearly you don't.
> >
> >
> > Yep, I do.
>
> No, you don't.

Yep, I do. I have at least as much standing as you have for
making such a claim.

Or you can grow up and stop pretending that you can read
minds.


[...]

> > It was in response to a request for examples; you didn't
> > say that you were answering a question that wasn't being asked.
> > You were giving an example.
>
> I gave evidence. If I had meant that his utterance of
> the thought was illegal aggression, it would have been
> incumbent on me to say it.

That's just what you did!


> >>>>...I should have
> >>>>corrected "Zakhar" at the time, and indicated that what
> >>>>he wrote is EVIDENCE of his illegal aggression.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>What's with this 'corrected "Zakhar"' line.
> >>
> >>Is English not your native tongue, Sophist Boob. I
> >>always thought it was...
> >
> >
> > He asked for examples. If you meant to give evidence
> > instead, you would have said so.
>
> Nope. Evidence is what I gave. If I had meant the
> utterance itself, I would have said it.

You did!

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:03 pm
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"Jonathan Ball" <jonball DeleteThis @whitehouse.not> wrote in message
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> "Zakhar" (not the real name of the evil Nazi midget)
> willingly wrote: "I want people to make the correct
> choice".

I do want people to make the right choice, do you want them to make the
wrong choice?


> "Zakhar" believes, like any benighted
> fascist, that HE knows, gets to *define*, what is the
> "correct" choice. He wants to impose his view of
> "correct" on everyone.


I do not what to impose anything. I have only offered information and
debate, I have not imposed anything on anybody.


>He will commit murder in order
> to do so. All "aras" are murderous fascists at heart.

That is slanderous.


>
> The world will no longer sit idly by, allowing
> murderous fascists to gather strength to launch their
> evil wars.
>

Pick your toys up baby ball, you're making a fool of yourself.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:03 pm
Post subject: Re: Liar Twerp Jon shows his hypocritical double standard again [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Jonathan Ball" <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
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[...]

> Your statement, ""I want people to make ***the***
> correct choice" [emphasis added] indicates that you
> believe YOU know what the correct choice is. If you
> had meant that you want people to make an INFORMED
> choice, you'd have written that. But it clearly is not
> what you meant, and we can all see it.


Regarding this exchange:

*************************
Zakhar: Give examples of my illegal aggression bully boy.

Liar Twerp jon [quoting Zakhar] "I want people to make
the correct choice".
*************************

If you had meant to provide *evidence* instead of an
*example* as asked, you'd have written that. But it
clearly is not what you meant, and we can all see it.

[...]
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:12 pm
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farrell77 wrote:

> "Jonathan Ball" <jonball RemoveThis @whitehouse.not> wrote in message
> news:EO93b.6068$3E.102@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> [...]
>
>
>>Your statement, ""I want people to make ***the***
>>correct choice" [emphasis added] indicates that you
>>believe YOU know what the correct choice is. If you
>>had meant that you want people to make an INFORMED
>>choice, you'd have written that. But it clearly is not
>>what you meant, and we can all see it.
>
>
>
> Regarding this exchange:
>
> *************************
> Zakhar: Give examples of my illegal aggression bully boy.
>
> Liar Twerp jon [quoting Zakhar] "I want people to make
> the correct choice".
> *************************
>
> If you had meant to provide *evidence* instead of an
> *example* as asked, you'd have written that.

Nope. I simply wrote something that "Zakhar" had said
that I believe, correctly, to be evidence of aggression
and aggressive intent. You can not legitimately infer
that it was his WRITING of the thing that I took to be
the aggression. YOu know this.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:12 pm
Post subject: Re: Liar Twerp Jon's famous double standard [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Jonathan Ball" <jonball.DeleteThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
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> farrell77 wrote:
>
> > "Jonathan Ball" <jonball.DeleteThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
> > news:EO93b.6068$3E.102@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >
> >>Your statement, ""I want people to make ***the***
> >>correct choice" [emphasis added] indicates that you
> >>believe YOU know what the correct choice is. If you
> >>had meant that you want people to make an INFORMED
> >>choice, you'd have written that. But it clearly is not
> >>what you meant, and we can all see it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regarding this exchange:
> >
> > *************************
> > Zakhar: Give examples of my illegal aggression bully boy.
> >
> > Liar Twerp jon [quoting Zakhar] "I want people to make
> > the correct choice".
> > *************************
> >
> > If you had meant to provide *evidence* instead of an
> > *example* as asked, you'd have written that.
>
> Nope. I simply wrote something that "Zakhar" had said
> that I believe, correctly

clearly incorrectly

> , to be evidence of aggression
> and aggressive intent. ..

You answered his question for examples with what you
considered to be an example.


> ...You can not legitimately infer
> that it was his WRITING of the thing that I took to be
> the aggression. YOu know this.

Not simply his writing of it per se, no. But his expression of that
thought. That's what you were saying was an example of
illegal aggression.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Lying, bungling Sophist Boob CONCEDES [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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farrell77 wrote:

> "Jonathan Ball" <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
> news:a1a3b.6081$3E.4692@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>>farrell77 wrote:
>>
>>

>>>>Your statement, ""I want people to make ***the***
>>>>correct choice" [emphasis added] indicates that you
>>>>believe YOU know what the correct choice is. If you
>>>>had meant that you want people to make an INFORMED
>>>>choice, you'd have written that. But it clearly is not
>>>>what you meant, and we can all see it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Regarding this exchange:
>>>
>>>*************************
>>>"Zakhar": Give examples of my illegal aggression bully boy.
>>>
>>>Jon [quoting "Zakhar"] "I want people to make
>>>the correct choice".
>>>*************************
>>>
>>>If you had meant to provide *evidence* instead of an
>>>*example* as asked, you'd have written that.
>>
>>Nope. I simply wrote something that "Zakhar" had said
>>that I believe, correctly to be evidence of aggression
>>and aggressive intent. ..
>
>
> You answered his question for examples with what you
> considered to be an example.

No. With evidence, expressed in his statement, not the
utterance of the statement itself.

>
>
>
>>...You can not legitimately infer
>>that it was his WRITING of the thing that I took to be
>>the aggression. YOu know this.
>
>
> Not simply his writing of it per se, no.

The End.

That's what you are accusing me of calling his
aggression, and now you have admitted that you have
done nothing but piss away people's time.

Fuck off, Sophist Boob. You're a punk.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:41 pm
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"Jonathan Ball" <jonball.DeleteThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
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> farrell77 wrote:
>
> > "Jonathan Ball" <jonball.DeleteThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
> > news:a1a3b.6081$3E.4692@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> >>farrell77 wrote:
> >>
> >>
>
> >>>>Your statement, ""I want people to make ***the***
> >>>>correct choice" [emphasis added] indicates that you
> >>>>believe YOU know what the correct choice is. If you
> >>>>had meant that you want people to make an INFORMED
> >>>>choice, you'd have written that. But it clearly is not
> >>>>what you meant, and we can all see it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Regarding this exchange:
> >>>
> >>>*************************
> >>>"Zakhar": Give examples of my illegal aggression bully boy.
> >>>
> >>>Jon [quoting "Zakhar"] "I want people to make
> >>>the correct choice".
> >>>*************************
> >>>
> >>>If you had meant to provide *evidence* instead of an
> >>>*example* as asked, you'd have written that.
> >>
> >>Nope. I simply wrote something that "Zakhar" had said
> >>that I believe, correctly to be evidence of aggression
> >>and aggressive intent. ..
> >
> >
> > You answered his question for examples with what you
> > considered to be an example.
>
> No. With evidence, expressed in his statement, not the
> utterance of the statement itself.

No, it was an example. That's what he asked for and that's
what you provided.


> >>...You can not legitimately infer
> >>that it was his WRITING of the thing that I took to be
> >>the aggression. YOu know this.
> >
> >
> > Not simply his writing of it per se, no.
>
> The End.
>
> That's what you are accusing me of calling his
> aggression, ...

Are you really this stupid? It's not his writing per se of it that
you called an example of illegal aggression. It's his expression
of it.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:12 pm
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farrell77 wrote:

> "Jonathan Ball" <jonball DeleteThis @whitehouse.not> wrote in message
> news:Kpa3b.6108$3E.4301@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>>farrell77 wrote:
>>
>>

>>>>No, inept lying Sophist Boob, I didn't, and you know I
>>>>didn't.
>>>
>>>
>>>I KNOW without a doubt that you did.
>>
>>No. YOu KNOW without a doubt that I didn't. ...
>
>
> False, Jon.

No, TRUE, inept Sophist Boob.

>
>
>
>>...You are addicted to lying.
>
>
> I don't lie.

You are addicted to lying. Your addiction is so
strong, it's causing you to keep going despite your
concession.


>>>>I didn't change my claim.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yep. Even now you're trying to change it from example to
>>>evidence.
>>
>>No. You have dwelt at length on an ambiguity, an
>>ambiguity due to your faulty intellect and your
>>addiction to lying and sophistry.
>
>
> There was no ambiguity.

There wasn't much of one, but because of your
addictions, you inflated one out of it.

>
>
>
>>I haven't changed anything.
>
>
> So you were giving an example then.

No. I didn't change anything: I gave evidence.

>
> *************************
> "Zakhar": Give examples of my illegal aggression bully boy.
>
> Jon [quoting "Zakhar"] "I want people to make
> the correct choice".
> *************************
>
> If you were giving evidence rather than responding to his request for
> examples, then you would have said so.

Non sequitur.

>
>
>>It clearly is not, Sophist Boob. Here's the actual
>>exchange, verbatim:
>>
>>"Zakhar" (not his real name): So you're going to shoot me?
>>
>>Jon, the liberty-loving democrat: If you try to impose
>>your choice on me, yes, I will. Only in that case. I
>>am not an aggressive person. You are inherently
>>aggressive, as your illegitimate with [sic; "wish"] to
>>impose choices on others shows.
>
>
> And your example of illegal aggression from him that would
> merit such a response on your part was his claim: "I want
> people to make the correct choice".

False. That's your strawman, Sophist Boob, except it's
been demolished and the straw has blown away.

You conceded already.


>>>>>>>You often claim to know what's in the minds of others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I correctly infer what's in the minds of others.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>So can I.
>>>>
>>>>No, you can't.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes I can. At least as well as you can.
>>
>>No, you can't do it at all. I can, and I know.
>
>
> No, you can't.

Yes, I can. You cannot.

>
>
>
>>>>>I can correctly infer lots of what's in your mind,
>>>>>for example.
>>>>
>>>>Nope. You have consistently exhibited zero talent at this.
>>>
>>>
>>>I've exhibited great talent.
>>
>>Zero talent.

Zero.


>>>It was in response to a request for examples; you didn't
>>>say that you were answering a question that wasn't being asked.
>>>You were giving an example.
>>
>>I gave evidence. If I had meant that his utterance of
>>the thought was illegal aggression, it would have been
>>incumbent on me to say it.
>
>
> That's just what you did!

I didn't. You already conceded.

Time to move on, Sophist Boob.

>
>
>
>>>>>>...I should have
>>>>>>corrected "Zakhar" at the time, and indicated that what
>>>>>>he wrote is EVIDENCE of his illegal aggression.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What's with this 'corrected "Zakhar"' line.
>>>>
>>>>Is English not your native tongue, Sophist Boob. I
>>>>always thought it was...
>>>
>>>
>>>He asked for examples. If you meant to give evidence
>>>instead, you would have said so.
>>
>>Nope. Evidence is what I gave. If I had meant the
>>utterance itself, I would have said it.
>
>
> You did!

I didn't. You know it. Everyone knows it.

You lost; you have already conceded. Time to move on,
Boob.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:41 am
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farrell77 wrote:
> "Jonathan Ball" <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
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>
>>farrell77 wrote:
>>
>>

>>>>No. YOu KNOW without a doubt that I didn't. ...
>>>
>>>
>>>False, Jon.
>>
>>No, TRUE, inept Sophist Boob.
>
>
> False, Jon.

No, TRUE, inept Sophist Boob.

>
>
>
>>>>...You are addicted to lying.
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't lie.
>>
>>You are addicted to lying. Your addiction is so
>>strong, it's causing you to keep going despite your
>>concession.
>
>
> There was no concession

You conceded. "Not simply his writing of it per se, no."

The End.


>
>
>
>>>>>>I didn't change my claim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Yep. Even now you're trying to change it from example to
>>>>>evidence.
>>>>
>>>>No. You have dwelt at length on an ambiguity, an
>>>>ambiguity due to your faulty intellect and your
>>>>addiction to lying and sophistry.
>>>
>>>
>>>There was no ambiguity.
>>
>>There wasn't much of one, but because of your
>>addictions, you inflated one out of it.
>
>
> There was no ambiguity.

Yes, there was a tiny one, and you went berserk, as you
always do. You thought you saw an angle, and you went
to work...on a big fat zero.

>
>
>
>>>>I haven't changed anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>So you were giving an example then.
>>
>>No. I didn't change anything: I gave evidence.
>>
>>
>>>*************************
>>>"Zakhar": Give examples of my illegal aggression bully boy.
>>>
>>>Jon [quoting "Zakhar"] "I want people to make
>>>the correct choice".
>>>*************************
>>>
>>>If you were giving evidence rather than responding to his request for
>>>examples, then you would have said so.
>>
>>Non sequitur.
>
>
> It's the whole issue.

Your comment does not logically follow. You're RIGHT
that it's the whole issue: your sophistry ALWAYS
becomes the whole issue.


>>>>>>>I can correctly infer lots of what's in your mind,
>>>>>>>for example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nope. You have consistently exhibited zero talent at this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I've exhibited great talent.
>>>>
>>>>Zero talent.
>>
>>Zero.
>
>
> Much

Zero.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:07 pm
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farrell77 wrote:
> "Jonathan Ball" <jonball DeleteThis @whitehouse.not> wrote in message
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>
>>farrell77 wrote:
>>
>>

>>>>>>>>No. YOu KNOW without a doubt that I didn't. ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>False, Jon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No, TRUE, inept Sophist Boob.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>False, Jon.
>>>>
>>>>No, TRUE, inept Sophist Boob.
>>>
>>>
>>>False.
>>
>>No, TRUE, inept Sophist Boob.
>
>
> False x 1 trillion.

No, TRUE, inept Sophist Boob.

You're so stupid, you don't realize that "truth" is an
on/off switch, not something with a variable magnitude.

> This is stupid, Liar Jon.

It sure is, Sophist Boob. Everything you touch gets
dunked in stupidity.

You're bright, but you're stupid. Reflexively lying
sophists usually are.

>
> [...]
>
>
>>>>>>>If you were giving evidence rather than responding to his request for
>>>>>>>examples, then you would have said so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Non sequitur.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It's the whole issue.
>>>>
>>>>Your comment does not logically follow. You're RIGHT
>>>>that it's the whole issue: your sophistry ALWAYS
>>>>becomes the whole issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>My comment follows.
>>
>>It doesn't.
>
>
> It really does,

It really doesn't.

>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>I can correctly infer lots of what's in your mind,
>>>>>>>>>>>for example.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Nope. You have consistently exhibited zero talent at this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I've exhibited great talent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Zero talent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Zero.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Much
>>>>
>>>>Zero.
>>>
>>>
>>>I've done at least as well,
>>
>>You have not done well. You never do.
>
>
> I've done fantastically well.

You have not done well. You never do.

>
>
>>x-no-archive: yes
>
>
> What's up here, Liar Jon?

Leftover from somewhere else.

What's it to you, Boob? Prediction: Boob will try to
run with this. I really DO know you, Boob.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Inept bungler Liar Jon can't stop being stupid (true to inept, bungling form) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Jonathan Ball" <jonball.TakeThisOut@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
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[...]

> >>x-no-archive: yes
> >
> >
> > What's up here, Liar Jon?
>
> Leftover from somewhere else.
>
> What's it to you, Boob? ...

Just curious. Since you're afraid to be associated with your
words, I was wondering if you were trying to block archival
of them.


> ...Prediction: Boob will try to
> run with this. I really DO know you, Boob.

Nope. You're wrong. Again. You don't know me
at all, Liar Jon.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Inept bungler Sophist Boob is losing steam...sophists always [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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farrell77 wrote:
> "Jonathan Ball" <jonball.DeleteThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
> news:rNp3b.8046$3E.1716@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> [...]
>
>
>>>>x-no-archive: yes
>>>
>>>
>>>What's up here, Liar Jon?
>>
>>Leftover from somewhere else.
>>
>>What's it to you, Boob? ...
>
>
> Just curious. Since you're afraid to be associated with your
> words, I was wondering if you were trying to block archival
> of them.
>
>
>
>>...Prediction: Boob will try to
>>run with this. I really DO know you, Boob.
>
>
> Nope. You're wrong. Again. You don't know me
> at all, Liar Jon.

You're about done, aren't you, Boob? I think the hard
realities of

- the original emptiness of your claim
- your ineptitude
- the out-and-out concession of defeat

have finally sunk in.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:22 pm
Post subject: Re: Inept bungler Sophist Boob whiffs off (maybe) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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farrell77 wrote:

> "Jonathan Ball" <jonball RemoveThis @whitehouse.not> wrote in message
> news:b4q3b.8060$3E.5975@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>>farrell77 wrote:
>>
>>>"Jonathan Ball" <jonball RemoveThis @whitehouse.not> wrote in message
>>>news:rNp3b.8046$3E.1716@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What's up here, Liar Jon?
>>>>
>>>>Leftover from somewhere else.
>>>>
>>>>What's it to you, Boob? ...
>>>
>>>
>>>Just curious. Since you're afraid to be associated with your
>>>words, I was wondering if you were trying to block archival
>>>of them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>...Prediction: Boob will try to
>>>>run with this. I really DO know you, Boob.
>>>
>>>
>>>Nope. You're wrong. Again. You don't know me
>>>at all, Liar Jon.
>>
>>You're about done, aren't you, Boob? ...
>
>
> We're not covering any new ground, Liar Jon. What point is
> there in continuing with an "is - isn't - is - etc." series of exchanges.
> I have better things to do.

That is not apparent.

> Most of your arguments are based
> on your own grotesque thoughts about what others think. I can
> tell you that you're wrong, but you're obviously going to continue
> lying anyway. Make no mistake though, Liar Jon: I and others
> know you for what you are. a serial abusive liar.
>
> For the future though, here's the deal: if you claim to know what
> I think and are wrong, then I'm going to claim equal ability to
> state what you think. You stop it and I'll stop it. Maybe we
> could actually discuss relevant issues, as time permits.
>
>
>
>>...I think the hard
>>realities of
>>
>> - the original emptiness of your claim
>
>
> My original claim was valid.

No. You saw a teeny bit of ambiguity - that's all you
ever look for, as it facilitates sophistry - and you
tried to run with it. You got nowhere.

> Your sleazy switch from "example"
> to "evidence" has been amply demonstrated.

Nope.

>
>
>
>> - your ineptitude
>> - the out-and-out concession of defeat
>
>
> The concession is strictly in your own fevered little mind.

No. You conceded, full stop.

>
>
>>have finally sunk in.
>
>
> Again you miss by miles.

I scored a decisive goal.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 4:01 am
Post subject: Re: Inept bungler Sophist Boob is the Energizer Bunny [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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farrell77 wrote:
> "Jonathan Ball" <jonball DeleteThis @whitehouse.not> wrote in message
> news:QTq3b.8110$3E.6027@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>>farrell77 wrote:
>>

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>...Prediction: Boob will try to
>>>>>>run with this. I really DO know you, Boob.
>
>
> I didn't run with it, Liar Jon. You were proved wrong.
>
> Again

Nope. It's the Heisenberg Principle at work in usenet.
I altered the event: if I hadn't said anything,
you'd have run with it.

>
>
>
>>>>>Nope. You're wrong. Again. You don't know me
>>>>>at all, Liar Jon.
>>>>
>>>>You're about done, aren't you, Boob? ...
>>>
>>>
>>>We're not covering any new ground, Liar Jon. What point is
>>>there in continuing with an "is - isn't - is - etc." series of
>>> exchanges.
>
>>>I have better things to do.
>>
>>That is not apparent.

I like that.

>>
>>
>>>Most of your arguments are based
>>>on your own grotesque thoughts about what others think. I can
>>>tell you that you're wrong, but you're obviously going to continue
>>>lying anyway. Make no mistake though, Liar Jon: I and others
>>>know you for what you are. a serial abusive liar.
>>>
>>>For the future though, here's the deal: if you claim to know what
>>>I think and are wrong, then I'm going to claim equal ability to
>>>state what you think. You stop it and I'll stop it. Maybe we
>>>could actually discuss relevant issues, as time permits.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>...I think the hard
>>>>realities of
>>>>
>>>> - the original emptiness of your claim
>>>
>>>
>>>My original claim was valid.
>>
>>No. You saw a teeny bit of ambiguity - that's all you
>>ever look for, as it facilitates sophistry - and you
>>tried to run with it. You got nowhere.
>
>
> There was no ambiguity

There was ambiguity - a teeny, tiny bit - and you tried
to run with it. You're a gimp, and I flattened you.

>
>
>
>>>Your sleazy switch from "example"
>>>to "evidence" has been amply demonstrated.
>>
>>Nope.
>
>
> Yep

No.
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