anti dock and crop legislation

Melinda Shore wrote:
>
> You are. But not all opinions are created equal, and just
> because it's an opinion doesn't mean that it's immune from
> criticism.

no kidding

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"Beth In Alaska" <bethinak.DeleteThis@spamfreeclearwire.net> said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

>> I've been told that how the hair on the stub grows is an
>> indication. I can't see the difference.
>
> Pirate doesn't have a stub. He's got nuttin. I'll ask his
> breeder.

At what joint are Pems normally docked? If he doesn't have a
stub he was either docked too short (not a good thing) or may
have a naturally bobbed tail.

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"Rocky" <3dogs.TakeThisOut@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message
news:Fri9A31D1C8764CFaustralianshepherdca@rocky-dog.com...
> "Beth In Alaska" <bethinak.TakeThisOut@spamfreeclearwire.net> said in
> rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>
>>> I've been told that how the hair on the stub grows is an
>>> indication. I can't see the difference.
>>
>> Pirate doesn't have a stub. He's got nuttin. I'll ask his
>> breeder.
>
> At what joint are Pems normally docked? If he doesn't have a
> stub he was either docked too short (not a good thing) or may
> have a naturally bobbed tail.


ok, i've done some additional research - apparently pems are generally
bobtailed and docked to nothing (at least show breeders - apparently
working breeders go a bit longer). Occasionally a pem is born with no bob
but its not common.
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"tiny dancer" <tinydancer357.DeleteThis@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in
news:LIJmj.65901$N67.22157@bignews5.bellsouth.net:

> I'm also still reminded of the neighbood pit bull with the ragged,
> bloody ears, and the cries he yelped as he bumped them into me as
> I was petting him.

What was apparently done to that puppy has nothing whatsoever to do
with normal ear cropping, and even less to do with tail docking.

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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:47:05 -0500, elegy
<elegy DeleteThis @DOGPOOPshattering.org> wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:39:35 +0000 (UTC), Shelly
><scouvrette DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>"tiny dancer" <tinydancer357 DeleteThis @nospamhotmail.com> wrote in
>>news:KfAmj.73429$rc2.14244@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
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>>> You won't get any argument from me. I think both practices are a
>>> bit barbaric.
>>
>>Barbaric is making a dog keep a tail that will continually be split
>>open. If you've never actually dealt with that, then maybe you
>>should shut up on the subject of barbarism re tail docking?
>
>i just can't make that argument work for me. greyhounds have the
>skinniest, whippiest tails i've ever seen, but they're not docked. the
>boxers i've seen with tails have very similar equipment to pit bulls,
>and pit bulls are not docked.

I think that Greyhounds aren't docked because they use their tails as
rudders to some extent, or at least racing folks think they do. It's
not unusual for adopted ex-racers to lose parts or all of their tails
due to Happy Tail injuries, which you probably know.

Mustang Sally
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