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Elizabeth Leef Jacobson

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Since: Feb 15, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:24 pm
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Well its freezing and sunny here in NYC and we are lucky enough to have
south and east exposures. In the cold weather, we keep the blinds up a
little more often than in the hot summer when we tend to keep them closed.
The tank is not in a window. It gets mostly indirect light.

We've had our GF for 2.5 years now, and finally gotten the swing of a number
of problems. We've battled several episodes of fin rot (though they seem to
recur).

So here we are after all of this relative stablility with the fishtank and
now are faced with a losing battle of algae. We are largely chemical free
in the tank and are thus loathe to add an algicide unless you all tell us
its ok. Frequent water changes seem to do nothing for the algae-it grows so
fast.

Short of depriving ourselves of light or covering the tank in a dark sheet
do you all have any suggestions to beat the algae? We did recently put in
another air stone-could the addition of air to the water be helping the
algae more than the fish? Are any of the chemicals ok to use?

Also, anything to help keep us from the constant battle wtih finrot would be
nice. The tank is well-cycled with undetectable ammonia and nitrates and
good pH.

Thanks in advance.

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Donald Kerns

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:24 pm
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Elizabeth Leef Jacobson wrote:

> Also, anything to help keep us from the constant battle wtih finrot
> would be nice. The tank is well-cycled with undetectable ammonia and
> nitrates and good pH.
>

How big is the tank and how big are the fish?

How sure are you that the nitrATEs are near zero (as opposed to
nitrITEs)? If the nitrAtes are near zero then the algae shouldn't
have enough to eat... Unless it is actually the bacteria type of
algae...

-Donald
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"Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving
that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the
proof." -Galbraith's Law

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liz

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:47 pm
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Thank you for all your replies.

Donald-you are right--It was nitrites we have been checking. Not nitrates.
I just (wrongly) figured if the ammonia and nitrites were zero the nitrates
must also be zero. We change the water about once week when things are going
well and daily when there is turbulence like this.

It is a 10 gallon tank with 2 fish, (I know you have all yelled at us for
this before, but it used to be a 5 gallon tank.), 2 plastic plants and a
tetra whisper filter with a biobag.

We have treated the finrot with some nitrofurantioin a couple of times in
the past, with along with more frequent water changes.

After some reading from Donald's post last night, along with a nitrate
detector, we were looking at a product called Algon.

Any thoughts on this?

Once again, thank you all for your invaluable help. (last time was 2.5
years ago and we're still hanging in there with the same two fish)
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Donald Kerns

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:47 pm
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liz wrote:

> It is a 10 gallon tank with 2 fish, (I know you have all yelled at us
> for this before, but it used to be a 5 gallon tank.)
>
> We have treated the finrot with some nitrofurantioin a couple of times
> in the past, with along with more frequent water changes.
>

Not to be an AH, but please note the correlation...

-D
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"Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving
that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the
proof." -Galbraith's Law
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liz

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:05 am
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Donald wrote:
> Not to be an AH, but please note the correlation...
>
Not at all.

Well. This is Manhattan. Space is at a premium. We already have a whole
shower stall devoted to the sitting water in a bucket for the next change of
water. I cannot carry the bucket without help and cannot imagine how I
would carry an even larger one from the sink to the shower stall and then
the next day to the tank.

By the way one day under dark towels and a water change later, the green is
decidedly lighter. We still need to get the nitrate tester.

Maybe we would be amenable to a bigger tank, but it would be a lifestyle
change for all of the family, fish included.

Liz
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