Voutes - Tony

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 21:48:56 -0400, "SerenityLofts"
<ponymangt.RemoveThis@emailprotected.com> wrote:

>Hey Tony, can you direct me to some information on these birds that I read
>about that you have? TIA.
>
>Steve
Hello Steve. I have one web site (below) and that is about it. The
Greeks seem to pass the hobby on from mouth to ear. I am fortunate
that I was introduced to a Greek fancier in Chicago. He in turn
introduced me to two other Greek fanciers in the area. Without them
I would still be trying to train them like Donek. They are one of the
smartest birds I have ever raised. I have tried probably a dozen
different types of middle eastern diving breeds. Besides their
intelligence, They are virtually hawk and falcon free. In the last
three years I have lost only one bird to a coopers hawk. They do chase
them but to no avail. There were a couple of other sites but they
are gone. They are a tough nut to crack. It takes three to five
years to get a loft established. The idea way to train and fly Voutes
is to keep the babies with the breeders and given free loft daily.
After about two weeks of this daily in and out of the loft they are
ready to start being tossed up to their flying parents. After a few
times of this they will fly. The first couple of years I held back the
good divers that I have raised for the breeder loft. I didn't have
enough birds to not worry about losing them. So I didn't continue
flying them. By the time they are three years old max they
should be completely trained. Sorry I don't have any more web
sites. You could try a Google search for John Liagaris. It wasn't
updated the last time I checked. He no longer has any of his
blood that he brought over. He gets his birds from the same guy
that I got my from. We are beyond money being exchanged for
birds. I feel like I have been blessed with my introduction to the
Greek guys and the birds I have bought and been giving to me.
regards,
tonyf


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