Treating White Spot

"Altum" <einstein RemoveThis @mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
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> Christopher Lewis wrote:
>> OK after my last post about the 'gift' of loads of fish I have
>> returned them to the shop or a colleague is looking after them in his
>> quarantine tank for me.
>>
>> The trouble is my tank now has white spot. I bought some ws3 king
>> british treatment and I was wondering what I should do about
>> filtration while treating. Obviously I should not have carbon in the
>> filter but what about a normal white filter? I have been told to keep
>> filtering and remove the filter media depending who I talk to. SO
>> what is it? White filter or just the sponge? Its a Fluval 3+ if that
>> makes any difference.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> p.s. Follow-Ups set to uk.rec.aquaria.misc
> I can't followup to that group so I'm posting here and replying by
> email. Remove the carbon and use all of your other media. Put in
> fresh carbon once you're done with the medicine.

King british is a local (UK) remedy which I've heard is effective. You
now need to reconcile the water changes to keep the nitrites under
control and diluting the meds. With Malachite based treatments, I'd
recommend starting with a large water change (2/3? taken off the
substrate where the Ich cysts are), then add a bit of salt (1 tsp/g ? for
the nitrites), then the meds (1/2 dosage). Then if the fish were solid,
the other 1/2 dosage (as applicable) about 12 hours later. Two days
later, repeat the routine, but now going to the full dosage (or staying
with 1/2 dosage or whatever is indicated for scaleless fish, if
applicable). As Elaine indicated, carbon out, everything else in. hth
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> "Altum" <einstein.RemoveThis@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
> news:43EA8E17.40301@mad.scientist.com...
>> Christopher Lewis wrote:
>>> OK after my last post about the 'gift' of loads of fish I have returned
>>> them to the shop or a colleague is looking after them in his quarantine
>>> tank for me.
>>>
>>> The trouble is my tank now has white spot. I bought some ws3 king
>>> british treatment and I was wondering what I should do about filtration
>>> while treating. Obviously I should not have carbon in the filter but
>>> what about a normal white filter? I have been told to keep filtering
>>> and remove the filter media depending who I talk to. SO what is it?
>>> White filter or just the sponge? Its a Fluval 3+ if that makes any
>>> difference.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> p.s. Follow-Ups set to uk.rec.aquaria.misc
>> I can't followup to that group so I'm posting here and replying by email.
>> Remove the carbon and use all of your other media. Put in fresh carbon
>> once you're done with the medicine.
>
> King british is a local (UK) remedy which I've heard is effective. You
> now need to reconcile the water changes to keep the nitrites under control
> and diluting the meds. With Malachite based treatments, I'd recommend
> starting with a large water change (2/3? taken off the substrate where the
> Ich cysts are), then add a bit of salt (1 tsp/g ? for the nitrites), then
> the meds (1/2 dosage). Then if the fish were solid, the other 1/2 dosage
> (as applicable) about 12 hours later. Two days later, repeat the
> routine, but now going to the full dosage (or staying with 1/2 dosage or
> whatever is indicated for scaleless fish, if applicable). As Elaine
> indicated, carbon out, everything else in. hth
> --
> www.NetMax.tk
>


If King british doesn't work (not heard of it) Waterlife's Protozin is very
effective also.
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> If King british doesn't work (not heard of it) Waterlife's Protozin is
> very effective also.
>
Never used KB products, I have tended to steer clear of them (don't know
why, probably because I don't associate them with being a well known brand).
I tended to use the Waterlife range of products, Protozin as mentioned is
good, although mainly for the pond if I remember correctly. Myxazin has
always worked well for me, it is not quite so harsh as other treatments.
Remember though that white spot has a 14- 21 day cycle (temperature
dependent) whereby just because you cannot see any spots on your fish,
doesn't mean there are no cysts in the gravel waiting to hatch and begin the
process again!!

I haven't seen the previous post listing your fish, but if you have catfish
and clown loaches, they are very sensitive to some treatments.

HTH

Mark
www.marksfish.me.uk
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> Remember though that white spot has a 14- 21 day cycle (temperature
> dependent) whereby just because you cannot see any spots on your fish,
> doesn't mean there are no cysts in the gravel waiting to hatch and begin
> the process again!!

I thought it was 4-6 days

Protazin suggests treatment on days 1,2,3 & 6 & the only time I've ever had
Ich come back was when I once when forgot to do the day 6 treatment.

I.
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if you temp is up the eighties a weeks treatment is sufficient, if its a
coldwate tank then you need two treatements, i find protozan the best in my
opinion.

di


"Iain Miller" <donot.RemoveThis@spam.me> wrote in message
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>
>> Remember though that white spot has a 14- 21 day cycle (temperature
>> dependent) whereby just because you cannot see any spots on your fish,
>> doesn't mean there are no cysts in the gravel waiting to hatch and begin
>> the process again!!
>
> I thought it was 4-6 days
>
> Protazin suggests treatment on days 1,2,3 & 6 & the only time I've ever
> had Ich come back was when I once when forgot to do the day 6 treatment.
>
> I.
>
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SpiceySpice wrote:
> if you temp is up the eighties a weeks treatment is sufficient, if its a
> coldwate tank then you need two treatements, i find protozan the best in my
> opinion.
>
> di
>
>
> "Iain Miller" <donot.DeleteThis@spam.me> wrote in message
> news:T1KGf.10394$37.2914@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>>> Remember though that white spot has a 14- 21 day cycle (temperature
>>> dependent) whereby just because you cannot see any spots on your fish,
>>> doesn't mean there are no cysts in the gravel waiting to hatch and begin
>>> the process again!!
>> I thought it was 4-6 days
>>
>> Protazin suggests treatment on days 1,2,3 & 6 & the only time I've ever
>> had Ich come back was when I once when forgot to do the day 6 treatment.
>>
>> I.
>>
>
>

when I have had ich in my tanks WaterLife's Protozin has been useless,
its never worked. I use the heat treament at the same time as dosing
with interpet whitespot treament.

works wonders, and only two doses, if you have any scaleless fish, or
elephant nose fish use HALF the dosage
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> when I have had ich in my tanks WaterLife's Protozin has been useless, its
> never worked. I use the heat treament at the same time as dosing with
> interpet whitespot treament.
>
> works wonders, and only two doses, if you have any scaleless fish, or
> elephant nose fish use HALF the dosage

Complete opposite experience - Protazin has never failed & I only tend to
use a 3/4 dose because I have loaches. AFAIK all the extra heat does is
speed up the lifecycle - doesn't actually kill anything & I've never
bothered with it (nor salt).

Been using P for over 15 years & its never failed. Don't need it that aften
(last time was over a year ago) but when I do it always works

I
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Iain Miller wrote:
>> when I have had ich in my tanks WaterLife's Protozin has been useless, its
>> never worked. I use the heat treament at the same time as dosing with
>> interpet whitespot treament.
>>
>> works wonders, and only two doses, if you have any scaleless fish, or
>> elephant nose fish use HALF the dosage
>
> Complete opposite experience - Protazin has never failed & I only tend to
> use a 3/4 dose because I have loaches. AFAIK all the extra heat does is
> speed up the lifecycle - doesn't actually kill anything & I've never
> bothered with it (nor salt).
>
> Been using P for over 15 years & its never failed. Don't need it that aften
> (last time was over a year ago) but when I do it always works
>
> I
>
>


You are correct it "SPEEDS" up the life cycle. The medication can only
kill the free swimming parasite, so therefore speeding up the life cycle
means the are free swimming early, and it takes less time to cure the
tank, and is less stressful to the fish as they don't have to endure the
treatment for as long.

§tudz
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On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 15:05:40 -0000, Marksfish wrote:
>> If King british doesn't work (not heard of it) Waterlife's Protozin is
>> very effective also.
>>
>Never used KB products, I have tended to steer clear of them (don't know
>why, probably because I don't associate them with being a well known brand).
>I tended to use the Waterlife range of products, Protozin as mentioned is

I find the waterlife range are variable, some are useless, some
are ok.

King British Ich treatment is great. Worked a treat on my first
tank, didn't hurt any of the fish.


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