Training a Lab Pup

A muzzle will not teach the pup not to chew. You need to supervise the
pup and use LIFE as a training ground.

Bre

Michael Krantz wrote:

> Our Teenager has had a Chocolate lab puppy for a few months.
> She got her during the summer, and is now going back to school.
>
> She keeps her a cage at night, and sometimes leaves her in
> the back yard for several hours (as when her friends visit).
>
> The puppy is really sweet, but I'm afraid she's turning into
> a barker from being in the back yard too much without getting
> attention.
>
> She also likes to swim in our pool, but I'm worried about her
> drinking the chlorinated water. We tie her up when she's out
> in the day or so after we shock the pool, but otherwise we
> sometimes see her run to the pool to drink, ignoring her water
> bucket.
>
> We will start tying her to a stake in the dog run, where she
> can get to her water bowl but not the pool, especially when
> it gets a bit cooler. When we have the fence replaced, we
> may also fence the dog run off from the rest of the yard.
> (Have to figure out how high that fence should be so she
> can't jump over when she grows up.)
>
> Recently my wife bought a muzzle, so we can let her run
> around the house without chewing everything in sight.
>
> Advice, warnings, ideas are welcome.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Mike Krantz
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"Madeline" <Calmill.DeleteThis@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Can't you help your daughter in training this pup? If it's going to be
> ignored, maybe it's time to find a suitable replacement home where
> people are willing to train and show this pup some attention. If the
> poor pup has a muzzle on in the house, how can it play with and chew
> it's toys? I'm sorry if I sound abrupt, but it doesn't sound like your
> home is one that needs a dog at this point in time. JMO

My wife is helping a little. We don't have time, and I cannot
get Coco to listen to me, anyway (nor the Teenager). I offered
several times to both pup and teenager to training school (there
are several in the area), but she declined (the Teenager, not Coco).


She spends a lot of time with Coco. I am worried that may lessen,
but I will wait and see. If she stops, then I will insist that we
find a good family for her. (Well, for the pup or the Teenager.)

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Michael Krantz wrote:

>
> The muzzle is a soft mesh that allows Coco to drink and breathe
> easily. But you mean cruel, because she should also be allowed
> to chew?
>

No cruel as in the pup needs to chew, but the pups needs to know what is ok to
chew and what is not ok. The muzzle does not teach the pup what to chew, it
teaches it that it has to wait until the muzzle is off before it can chew. Get
the pup some real beef bones (appropriate size for the pup) to chew. Get the pup
some toys that it is ok to chew. When the pup begins to chew on something that
doesn't belong to it, remove it and give the pup something that belongs to the
pup and is ok to chew.

Bre


>
> > --
> > Kim and the Pirate Labradors
> > Sutton, ON Canada
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Mike Krantz
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"Emily Carroll" <carrol82.DeleteThis@pilot.msu.edu> wrote in message
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> > My wife is helping a little. We don't have time, and I cannot
> > get Coco to listen to me, anyway (nor the Teenager). I offered
> > several times to both pup and teenager to training school (there
> > are several in the area), but she declined (the Teenager, not Coco).
>
> She's a teenager. MAKE HER.
>
> ~Emily


You should MAKE her an YOU should go also. In a few years or so, she is
going to be out of the house, off to college, military, etc.

How much time do you give the puppy. Yes it your daughters dog, but if
anything happens it will be your butt not your daughters.

For a example my old neighbors pick up a chocolate/pointer mix, for there
16yr old daughter. She didn't work much with the pup but luckily her dad did
some it would come when he call. There was several days she came over to me
to get her pup due to the fact she wouldn't come, I called her and she came
running for her backyard. on a side note, a puppy likes chewing on hands and
feet and etc. she didn't chew on mine or my wife's. mainly we didn't put up
with it. it the puppy is chewing on your hand, slide your thumb below the
tongue and hold firmly and say NO. But don't do it to cause to much pain.
If you already have the muzzle throw it in the back room and forget about
it.

YOU not just your daughter JUST NEED TO WORK WITH THE DOG!
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Carl Walters
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The muzzle is only need in cases where the dog has a high chance of biting
someone, like when at the vet.

If you daughter at age two would do something wrong would you tie here hands
together?

As for the fence, I used to have a standard chain link fence in the backyard
(? 4ft high). My lab wouldn't jump/climb the fence, though. If you make a
kennel might want to just put a roof on it, and make it comfortable for you
to work in there.

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Carl Walters
Montichiari,Italy
www.countrymods.com


"Bre" <icons.RemoveThis@NOSPAMeastlink.ca> wrote in message
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>
>
> Michael Krantz wrote:
>
> >
> > The muzzle is a soft mesh that allows Coco to drink and breathe
> > easily. But you mean cruel, because she should also be allowed
> > to chew?
> >
>
> No cruel as in the pup needs to chew, but the pups needs to know what is
ok to
> chew and what is not ok. The muzzle does not teach the pup what to chew,
it
> teaches it that it has to wait until the muzzle is off before it can chew.
Get
> the pup some real beef bones (appropriate size for the pup) to chew. Get
the pup
> some toys that it is ok to chew. When the pup begins to chew on something
that
> doesn't belong to it, remove it and give the pup something that belongs to
the
> pup and is ok to chew.
>
> Bre
>
>
> >
> > > --
> > > Kim and the Pirate Labradors
> > > Sutton, ON Canada
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Mike Krantz
> > mikek.RemoveThis@ethos.net
>
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ill take her. i have a 7yr old black lab and a 4 month old black lab
that would just love to have her . if you cant take care of her get
ahold of me and ill make arrangements to get her. im in pennsylvania
all you have to do is email me
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Thanks for the advice, all. I'm not responding to
every post, but I'm reading (and printing) them all.

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"bubba in italy" <post in group please
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> The muzzle is only need in cases where the dog has a high chance of biting
> someone, like when at the vet.
>
> If you daughter at age two would do something wrong would you tie here
hands
> together?
>
> As for the fence, I used to have a standard chain link fence in the
backyard
> (? 4ft high). My lab wouldn't jump/climb the fence, though. If you make
a
> kennel might want to just put a roof on it, and make it comfortable for
you
> to work in there.
>
> --
> Carl Walters
> Montichiari,Italy
> www.countrymods.com
>
>
> "Bre" <icons.DeleteThis@NOSPAMeastlink.ca> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > Michael Krantz wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The muzzle is a soft mesh that allows Coco to drink and breathe
> > > easily. But you mean cruel, because she should also be allowed
> > > to chew?
> > >
> >
> > No cruel as in the pup needs to chew, but the pups needs to know what is
> ok to
> > chew and what is not ok. The muzzle does not teach the pup what to
chew,
> it
> > teaches it that it has to wait until the muzzle is off before it can
chew.
> Get
> > the pup some real beef bones (appropriate size for the pup) to chew. Get
> the pup
> > some toys that it is ok to chew. When the pup begins to chew on
something
> that
> > doesn't belong to it, remove it and give the pup something that belongs
to
> the
> > pup and is ok to chew.
> >
> > Bre
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > --
> > > > Kim and the Pirate Labradors
> > > > Sutton, ON Canada
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Mike Krantz
> > > mikek.DeleteThis@ethos.net
> >
>
>
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"Bre" <icons.DeleteThis@NOSPAMeastlink.ca> wrote in message
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>
>
> Michael Krantz wrote:
>
> No cruel as in the pup needs to chew, but the pups needs to know what is
ok to
> chew and what is not ok. The muzzle does not teach the pup what to chew,
it
> teaches it that it has to wait until the muzzle is off before it can chew.
Get
> the pup some real beef bones (appropriate size for the pup) to chew. Get
the pup
> some toys that it is ok to chew. When the pup begins to chew on something
that
> doesn't belong to it, remove it and give the pup something that belongs to
the
> pup and is ok to chew.

What are real beef bones? Do you mean rawhide "basted in" beef?
I saw those when I went shopping at Walmart and Petco. I got
a few rawhide (with and without flavor) at Walmart. Then at Petco
they said it might not be good; as they soften up and unravel while
they are chewed, so Coco might end up eating some. What do you think?

I also got some bone (which should be good as long as we watch and
make sure it doesn't get broken or develop sharp edges). I got
some cornstarch bones that the Petco clerk recommended. I got
a "Dingo" bone, because a fellow at Walmart said his dog goes
crazy over them. I got some other stuff that I cannot remember.

> Bre

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"Michael Krantz" wrote in"> Kennel five feet high?"

Yupe, 5 feet, anything smaller, I would cover(like someone else suggested).
A bored dog will find a way to go to where its more exciting and you would
be very surprised about the 'springs' on the underside of the labs.

>
"> The muzzle is a soft mesh that allows Coco to drink and breathe
> easily. But you mean cruel, because she should also be allowed
> to chew?"

Muzzles were not designed for the purpose that you are using it to. The
puppy should be allowed to do do what all baby animals do, explore their
world and develop the 5 senses. Labs 'genetically' seem ready to 'pick up
stuff' and when you aren't there to take that article away or to say no,
they will lay down and chew. By denying her the natural thing of picking up
stuff with her mouth, you will frustrate her to no end and possibly end up
with a dog who is really unhappy about seeing that muzzle appearing. Most
dogs even start to 'snap' at people as they really resent the muzzle.
Advice, start training the dog...if your daughter won't go, you find the
time as well, it sounds like the dog doesn't have much respect for you
either!
Cheers
Kim and the Pirate Labradors
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"Kim Beverly" <pirate DeleteThis @netrover.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Michael Krantz" wrote in"> Kennel five feet high?"
>
> Yupe, 5 feet, anything smaller, I would cover(like someone else
suggested).
> A bored dog will find a way to go to where its more exciting and you would
> be very surprised about the 'springs' on the underside of the labs.

Do you mean a kennel in the dog run, or a fence bordering
the dog run? Isn't a kennel just a dog house (with a roof)?

> Cheers
> Kim and the Pirate Labradors

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HI Michael,

Michael Krantz wrote:

> "What are real beef bones? Do you mean rawhide "basted in" beef?
> I saw those when I went shopping at Walmart and Petco. I got
> a few rawhide (with and without flavor) at Walmart. Then at Petco
> they said it might not be good; as they soften up and unravel while
> they are chewed, so Coco might end up eating some. What do you think?

Real beef bones from the butcher, I prefer the leg bone as they do not usually
have as much gristle and fat on them. My butcher cuts them for me to the size I
want. He doesn't charge me for the bones or cutting them, but I do buy all my
meat from him. In the beginning you may want to take out most or all of the
marrow because it can cause diarrhea. When I first start giving the bones to a
pup/dog, I scrape most of the marrow out and then everytime they get a new bones
(the time period depends on the weather, if it is hot and the bones gets crungy
it may be every week) I leave a little more marrow in.
Get rid of the raw hide, it is dangerous. Pups/dogs can get large pieces off
and swallow them (you would be surprised at the size that they can swallow) it
can cause a life threatening intestinal blockage very quickly.
Bones help to keep their teeth clean too.

> I also got some bone (which should be good as long as we watch and
> make sure it doesn't get broken or develop sharp edges). I got
> some cornstarch bones that the Petco clerk recommended. I got
> a "Dingo" bone, because a fellow at Walmart said his dog goes
> crazy over them. I got some other stuff that I cannot remember.
>

Not sure what type of bone you have but if it is the kind you buy in a store and
flavored I am not sure how they treat the bone and that concerns me. I don't
like my dogs to be exposed to chemical preservatives thats why I give them the
bones I get from the butcher.
I have never heard of dingo bones. But I assure you if you get some real beef
bones you will not have to worry about going out and finding bones at the pet
store, your pup will love them.

Bre


>
> > Bre
>
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> Mike Krantz
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Michael Krantz wrote:
> Our Teenager has had a Chocolate lab puppy for a few months.
> She got her during the summer, and is now going back to school.
>
> She keeps her a cage at night, and sometimes leaves her in
> the back yard for several hours (as when her friends visit).
>
> The puppy is really sweet, but I'm afraid she's turning into
> a barker from being in the back yard too much without getting
> attention.
>
> She also likes to swim in our pool, but I'm worried about her
> drinking the chlorinated water. We tie her up when she's out
> in the day or so after we shock the pool, but otherwise we
> sometimes see her run to the pool to drink, ignoring her water
> bucket.
>
> We will start tying her to a stake in the dog run, where she
> can get to her water bowl but not the pool, especially when
> it gets a bit cooler. When we have the fence replaced, we
> may also fence the dog run off from the rest of the yard.
> (Have to figure out how high that fence should be so she
> can't jump over when she grows up.)
>
> Recently my wife bought a muzzle, so we can let her run
> around the house without chewing everything in sight.
>
> Advice, warnings, ideas are welcome.
>
I have a 14 mos old chocolate lab and she is pretty well behaved. I
think your dog just needs some exercise and some dog time with your
family for about 45 minutes to an hour a day. Make sure to add in a
little running or a long walk to get rid of some of that puppy energy.
In my experience with labs all they need is to get rid of some that
enery and become some of calmest and most well behaved animals. Also
consider having your pet spade/neutered. That seems to calm them down a
bit too. Unless you dog is extremly aggressive the muzzle isn't
neccessay. A little "Bitter Apple" should work to prevent chewing.
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