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Chuck D.

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 12:46 am
Post subject: Thunder and Aussies?
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our dog has recently started displaying a real fear of thunder. One
of the ways he responds is to want to go outside and I'm afraid he
wants to run away from it. Until recently he just wanted to be
inside and in a dark corner or similar place. We have had a record
number of storms lately and they seem to be almost nightly so he is
getting a real dose of thunderbumpers.
Any thoughts on this desire to go outside? We have let him
out on a long rope to see where he wants to be and he seems to want to
wander around near wooded areas near the house { I won't let him go
farther}. I've not allowed him out without a leash or rope as we had
a neighbor years ago that had a Border Collie that would run off for
several days after a severe storm.

Would appreciate any thoughts

Chuck

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 4:49 pm
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 7:59 am
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:16:28 -0400 (EDT), PawsTwice.RemoveThis@webtv.net (Dianne)
wrote:

>Do you have a crate? If your dog is use to being crated perhaps that
>will make him feel safer. You can also try one of the herbal sedatives
>to help calm him or something called Rescue Remedy.
>
>Try to distract your dog if you can, by playing a game with some yummy
>treats.
>
>There are also desensitizing tapes but they take a long time to work.
>
>Dianne

Thanks
We've temporarily stopped the worst of it by turning up sounds to mask
the noise .
Some of my main concerns with him running outside are still troubling
id he were to be alone at the time of a storm but guess we'll just
have to deal with it as it comes. He is 11 years old and had never
shown fear before so this was all of a sudden. We think that his
hearing is getting a bit poorer and maybe he hears things differently
or had some even with lightning while we weren't with him that started
this.
Thanks to everyone for the ideas on helping him

Chuck
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The Puppy Wizard

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 5:24 pm
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HOWEDY Chuck,

<Chuck D.> wrote in message

>
> our dog has recently started displaying a real fear of thunder.

Fear of thunder and separation anxiety and carsickness
are caused by mishandling.

> One of the ways he responds is to want to go outside
> and I'm afraid he wants to run away from it.

Probably so.

> Until recently he just wanted to be inside and in a
> dark corner or similar place.

THAT is reinforcing his fears.

> We have had a record number of storms lately
> and they seem to be almost nightly so he is
> getting a real dose of thunderbumpers.

You need to PRAISE him every time you hear thunder.

> Any thoughts on this desire to go outside?

He's panicked.

> We have let him out on a long rope to see where
> he wants to be and he seems to want to wander
> around near wooded areas near the house { I
> won't let him go farther}.

He's probably looking for a place to hide.

> I've not allowed him out without a leash or rope
> as we had a neighbor years ago that had a Border
> Collie that would run off for several days after a
> severe storm.

That's very common.

> Would appreciate any thoughts

You can learn HOWE to handle and train your
dog to overcome this and all behavior problems
in your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

> Chuck

Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"

====================

From: Chris Williams (k9apple@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST

Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel
and your family.

A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.

She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.

============================

Subj: Fear of Thunder
Date: 6/29/02 6:07:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Jraltman
To: Witsenddog

Dear Jerry,

I hope you'll be able to post this message so more
people who are at their wit's end will be able to help
their dogs.

To review:

Our puppy was uncomfortable during thunder storms.
At the beginning of the problem, she paced restlessly
from room to room. She couldn't settle and sleep.

From there the problem grew. She would run to the far
southeast corner of the house (which makes sense
because most storms here come from the northwest)
and she'd cower in the corner of the couch and shake.

!st attempt to help her:

I'd pick her up, brush and massage her (call me a nut -
I've sung to her when I've done her daily brushing since
she was tiny so of course I sang too) and when she
relaxed, I'd put her in her crate. She then slept and I
thought the problem was solved.

Traumatic event:

We were out in the park playing with one of her doggy
friends when it began to rain. On the way home, there
was the loudest, longest, thunder clap I've ever heard.

From that day on, the problem got worse and worse.
I couldn't calm her with singing and massage. The fear
spread. She wouldn't go out if it was raining. No thunder,
just gently summer rain, and she wouldn't go out.

The solution:

I surfed the net and came across a free manual Wit's
End Dog Training Method and a product called Doggy
Do Right that seemed better than anything else I came
across.

A phone call to Jerry Howe, author of the manual and
Director of Research, Biosound Scientific, convince me
to try both the manual and the product.

Problem solved:

I followed Jerry's suggestions (more phone calls - he is
most generous with his time and advice). The first two
thunder storms my puppy was restless but not running
around in a blind panic.

The third storm, she barked her deep, stranger danger
bark after each clap of thunder. The fourth storm, she
seemed uneasy at first. Soon she was asleep at my
feet and she napped through the rest of the storm.

A miracle. I am endlessly grateful to Jerry
for his manual and his machine.

A word about Doggy Do Right. It is odd to buy a
machine that emits a sound I cannot hear. I took
the chance because Jerry offered a full refund
including shipping.

Though I heard nothing, my puppy clearly did. When
I first turned on the machine, she got the cutest, most
quizzical look on her face. She looked at me as if to
say: "What's that? I never heard that before."

She looks at the machine when it is on. She rests on the floor
beneath it. It is obvious from her behavior that she is aware
of its cycles.

Amazing.

Thank you Jerry.

=============


"Anthony Testa" wrote in message


> I moved to Jacksonville, Florida about a year
> ago with my lovely wife linda. 3 times a week
> for 7 months I visited the Dog shelter and
> Humane Society looking for a German Shepherd.
> There were several times they had a dog there,
> but I was looking for a bitch. The reason for this
> is, all my life I have always had a female German
> shepherd. Therefore, I wanted another one. Finally
> about 6 weeks ago, I found her. "Angel" looked
> just like my previous dog of 12 years. I called my
> wife, she came down and fell in love with her immediately.
>
> We filled out the paper work and left the Humane
> Society with her. We drove directly to Pet Smart to
> buy all the essentials. We bought the biggest crate
> available. Let it be known I have never used a crate
> with any of my previous dogs. The biggest difference
> is my other dogs I had from puppy age. Angel just
> turned 2, 3 days before adoption.
>
> Angel appeared to be happy the trip home. Her ears
> were down all the time and her tail was so far between
> her legs that it looked like she had 3 ears. (humor)
> None the less, we knew we had a dog that was insecure.
> The first night we let Angel sleep in the living room.
>
> However, we had to go to work the next day. We pet
> her, kissed her and put her in the crate in the middle
> of the living room. During the day, my sons came
> home to walk her, give her a little loving and play with
> her. Then put her back in the crate and go to work.
>
> When we got home the first day, everything in the
> crate was ripped to shreds. The neighbors
> approached us and said that the dogs barked
> constantly for 3 hours then barked continuously after
> my sons left again. We thought it was because
> everything was new. We were wrong. The dig did
> this every day for 4 days.
>
> The 4th day was our first scheduled visit with the
> vet. The vet told us he can see that the dog is
> suffering from abuse and separation anxiety. So,
> the vet puts the dog on clomicalm. (not sure of the
> spelling).
>
> Well, for two days the dog walked around like Jerry
> Garcia on a Friday night after a concert, stoned!
> However, we were home with her the entire weekend.
>
> We crated her for work and came home to a barking
> dog, ripped bedding in the crate, upset neighbors
> and the plastic bottom of the crate completely torn
> to bits. It was obvious that crating was not a good thing.
> The next day we decided to leave her out of the crate
> to see what would happen. What a major mistake.
> We came home to almost $1,000 in damage.
> Furniture, the blinds were all chewed and torn down, etc.
>
> The next day we put her in the crate again. This
> time we came home to a nice 2' x 3' hole in our
> carpet in the middle of the living room, right down
> to the cement. I told my wife that we cannot afford
> to keep this dog. We should go out and get a puppy.
> She was upset and said there must be something
> we can do. I told her this. " I will go on the internet
> and see what is available". I was desperate and
> wanted to see if there was someone who could help.
>
> We read the information about the DDR and emailed
> Jerry. Jerry was kind enough to give us his phone
> number to discuss Angel in more detail.
>
> First, at no cost he sent us his manual. We started
> doing exactly what he said to do in the manual.
> Exactly as we did was was written, the results were
> exactly as he said it would be. Then we purchased
> the DDR.
>
> This is an amazing god send to us. First of all,
> Jerry sent it to us without paying. (thanks for that
> gesture) This has such and AMAZING effect. This testimonial
> is kind of winded so I will say this......Jerry's product
> literally saved this dogs life.
>
> Angel can be left alone during the day. NO CRATE. The
> dog shows absolutely no sign of anxiety at all. Jerry told
> us the product works immediately and it did! She does
> not bark at all during the day except when the mailman
> drops mail into the slot on the door. The manual for
> training works exactly as it says!
>
> We told our vet about this and he said that there are
> all kind of gimmicks. I told my vet that as a person who
> holds a degree of higher education, there just are some
> things they don't have in the text books and he should
> be receptive to that. We are proof. Angel was one
> day from going back to the humane society.
>
> Listen to this...My wife wrote one of the so called know
> it all of pets. His response to the exact letter we
> initially wrote to Jerry..."Get rid of the dog, bring her
> back" I'll save this person embarrassment by not saying the
> name. However, you know who you are and I have this to say
> to you. Go pump gas or bus tables because you
> sir, do not belong working with animals!
>
> Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news
> group, I can't for the life of me understand why this
> many people are so dang blind or ignorant.
>
> You just keep plugging away at what you do, because
> you my friend are a life saver!!!
>
> Anytime you need someone to speak about the results
> of your product, you have my number. We would gladly
> talk to them.
>
> Thank you very much for all your help. God bless you...
>
> Anthony & Linda Testa
> Jacksonville, Florida

=====================

> mshaw.RemoveThis@bangnetcom.com (Mark Shaw) wrote in message
...

> > In article ,
> > testa52601.RemoveThis@aol.com (Anthony Testa) wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news
> > > group, I can't for the life of me understand why this
> > > many people are so dang blind or ignorant.
> > > You just keep plugging away at what you do, because you
> > > my friend are a life saver!!!
> > Okay, who the heck ARE you, really?
>
> Who am I? My real name is posted. The story you have read is
> true.
>
> We were at witts end, found Jerry's web page by
> happenstance, wrote to him almost exactly what you read, he
> gave me his suggestions, told me what my results would be
> including a time line and, you know what? He was and still
> is, right on the money.
>
> I don't care if he's a warlock, a professor, disgruntled
> Entomologist, or a man with a niche that makes the sciences
> itchy, he saved the day AND a dog's life.
>
> We were given suggestions from Medication, to a Behavioral
> Specialist. I decided that instead of creating a Jerry
> Garcia or pay 125.00 dollars an hour for my dog to lay on a
> couch to be freudiated, I decided Jerry Howe's method seemed
> to be more humane and serene. It worked, end of story.
> A. Testa

=====================
> My student Anthony summed it all up:
>
"Alpha" wrote in message


> Well there you go, I was willing to believe but then jerry
> it was another hallucination of yours, just like all those
> thank you letters you write, a lie, a fabrication, a wank...
>
> > From: TESTA52601 (testa52601@aol.com)
> > Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
> > Date: 2002-03-28 10:01:34 PST
> > Alpha,
> > It's uneducated, ball breakers like you that create dismay
> > throughout this society. Get a life. you took apart a
> > letter from someone who has shown nothing but love and
> > caring, including lots of money and twisted it to YOUR
> > point.
> > Ever consider politics? I challenge you to show me your
> > credentials and results you come up with. The things I did
> > with the dog WAS against MY wishes. However, I listen
> > to pencil neck geeks that sit behind a monitor and get 30
> > different suggestions. This dog could not be happier if
> > she was gnawing on all three of your legs.
> > The bottom line to my letter was to tell people "don't
> > knock it until you try it"
> > P.S. Write me personally if you have any
> > credentials.......

======================

"Linda" wrote in message

> "Rosa Palmén" wrote in message
...

> Rosa, I got the doggy do right machine from Jerry
> in Jan and my dog relaxed in the first week. He
> does not have SA but he scratched himself raw
> until I got the machine. He also was a frantic
> chewer on his sticks until I got the machine.
>
> In less than a month he really relaxed. Now when
> the machine in on he just lays down and goes to sleep.
> If there is something outside that upsets him like a
> cat in the yard I just turn it on and he can cope.
>
> You will see all sorts of comments about the machine
> being as loud as a freight train etc but it is small and
> can not be heard by humans. I know he can hear it
> and that it relaxes him because I can see him relax
> when he hears it.
>
> I used the machine outside on the patio to quiet to
> dogs behind us that barked a hundred times a day.
> In two weeks they reduced the barking by 80%--
>
> When they barked after the machine was on Sunshine
> ran to the patio as they were alarm barking not just
> barking to pass the time.
>
> I asked the owners if they had noticed the dogs barking
> less and they said yes they had guessed the dogs were
> just growing up.
>
> Sunshine loved daycare but he was kicked out when he
> got aggressive but now than he has been trained with
> Jerry's Wits End Method and the machine I think I will
> let him go back to daycare.
>
> I am disabled so I can not run and play with him and
> I know he needs to play with other dogs.
>
> Go to www.doggydoright.com and read about the
> machine and get a free copy of Wits End Training
> Manual--since the info is free you won't
> lose anything and you can really help your dog.
> Linda and Sunshine

-------------------------------

----- Original Message -----
From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: [GVS]doggydoright

I just had a nice talk with the man who invented
the "doggydoright" device.

If you know someone working at a shelter etc who wants
to quieten the dogs in the neighborhood then this is an ideal
present for them - and he will sell it at a discount. He sounds
like someone we all know who has no sense at all about money.

Nice, nice man.

"doggydoright" may be obtained from ThePuppyWizard.RemoveThis@EarthLink.Net

I now have four locations at which the thing has
worked, so I recommend it.

Yap yap yap no more! I have zero financial interest in this.

George

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 6:16 pm
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Chuck:
I just lost mine but when we lived in South Florida she was always afraid of
thunder & rain storms. She would commonly jump up in my bed or get next to
me on the couch. This was her way of seeking & getting comfort.
I would not think of putting her outside during those storms or any other
time without me.
Give her the comfort she is probably seeking. Before you know it time will
fly and she may not be around.
Enjoy while you can.
Arthur


<Chuck D.> wrote in message

> our dog has recently started displaying a real fear of thunder. One
> of the ways he responds is to want to go outside and I'm afraid he
> wants to run away from it. Until recently he just wanted to be
> inside and in a dark corner or similar place. We have had a record
> number of storms lately and they seem to be almost nightly so he is
> getting a real dose of thunderbumpers.
> Any thoughts on this desire to go outside? We have let him
> out on a long rope to see where he wants to be and he seems to want to
> wander around near wooded areas near the house { I won't let him go
> farther}. I've not allowed him out without a leash or rope as we had
> a neighbor years ago that had a Border Collie that would run off for
> several days after a severe storm.
>
> Would appreciate any thoughts
>
> Chuck
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