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Since: Feb 04, 2007 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 61) Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:19 pm
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Thus spake Alan Holmes <alan.holmes.RemoveThis@nowhere.com>
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>And the relationship to fishing is?
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Global warming will have a dramatic impact on fish stocks everywhere,
just as it is having an impact on wildlife generally.
Regards
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Since: Nov 07, 2006 Posts: 28
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(Msg. 62) Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:32 pm
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"Old Codger" <oldcodger.TakeThisOut@anyoldwhere.net> wrote in message
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> Nah, with that amount of damage the data base servers will be bu**ered.
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you'll be held on suspicion then while they wait for the system to come back
on line ;-(
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(Msg. 63) Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:33 pm
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"pearl" <tea RemoveThis @signguestbook.ie> wrote in message
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> "Jim Webster" <jim RemoveThis @websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> "pearl" <tea RemoveThis @signguestbook.ie> wrote in message
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>> > "Jim Webster" <jim RemoveThis @websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> where did you say your food came from pearl?
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> Why?
the question was
where did you say your food came from pearl?
what are your clothes made out of?
But put that to one side
Show us the figures, not pages and pages of copy pasted stuff, but show us
your simple calculations showing how many people this country can support
if you cannot answer it just say
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(Msg. 64) Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:46 pm
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On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:33:13 -0000, "Jim Webster"
<jim.RemoveThis@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote:
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>"pearl" <tea.RemoveThis@signguestbook.ie> wrote in message
>news:eq5dtj$2i1$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>> "Jim Webster" <jim.RemoveThis@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:52mgukF1p71s3U1@mid.individual.net...
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>>> "pearl" <tea.RemoveThis@signguestbook.ie> wrote in message
>>> news:eq4vtp$sqj$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>>> > "Jim Webster" <jim.RemoveThis@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>> where did you say your food came from pearl?
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>> Why?
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>the question was
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>where did you say your food came from pearl?
>
>what are your clothes made out of?
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>But put that to one side
>Show us the figures, not pages and pages of copy pasted stuff, but show us
>your simple calculations showing how many people this country can support
>
>if you cannot answer it just say
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>Jim Webster
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Stop asking silly questions Jim. How much land do you think you need
to support you and your family, as a minimum? Remember we are talking
in crisis.
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Since: Nov 07, 2006 Posts: 34
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(Msg. 65) Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:04 am
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"pearl" <tea DeleteThis @signguestbook.ie> wrote in message
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> "Jim Webster" <jim DeleteThis @websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:52mgukF1p71s3U1@mid.individual.net...
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>> "pearl" <tea DeleteThis @signguestbook.ie> wrote in message
>> news:eq4vtp$sqj$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>> > "Jim Webster" <jim DeleteThis @websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> where did you say your food came from pearl?
From her postings here she has no ideae where food comes from!
And, what the fuck has this to do with fishing?
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> Why?
>
> From Technological Trajectories and the Human Environment.
> 1997. Pp. 56-73. Washington, DC: National Academy Press
> "How Much Land Can Ten Billion People Spare for Nature?"...
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> 'By eating different species of crops and a more or less vegetarian
> diet people can change the number that a plot can feed. And large
> numbers of people do change their diets. The calories and protein
> available from present cropland could provide a vegetarian diet to
> ten billion people. A diet requiring food and feed totaling 6,000
> calories daily for ten billion people, however, would overwhelm
> the capability of present agriculture on present cropland. The
> global totals of sun, CO2, fertilizer, and even water could produce
> far more food than what ten billion people need.
> ..'
> http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=4767&page=56
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>> what are your clothes made out of?
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> Ideally, hemp. See:
> http://environment.guardian.co.uk/conservation/story/0,,1881460,00.html
>
>> But put that to one side
>> Show us the figures, not pages and pages of copy pasted stuff, but show
>> us
>> your simple calculations showing how many people this country can
>> support.
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> '.. the last study done into whether or not the UK could feed itself,
> Mellanby's imaginatively titled Can Britain Feed Itself?, was done in
> 1975 and concluded that if all the productive land in the UK were
> utilised, the UK could feed itself on a diet similar to that of World
> War Two and if we ate a largely vegetarian diet. No mention there
> of using land to grow biofuels (or of permaculture, agroforestry,
> biointensive growing, urban agriculture, nut crops, aquaculture or
> raw food for that matter).
> ..'
> http://tinyurl.com/2mh6cl
> (- instead of "aquaculture", make that DHA-rich algae culture.)
>
> '.. organic production outperforms conventional in crop yield,
> soil fertility, pest reduction and economic return.
> ..
> During the four-year period, corn yield in the organic system
> averaged 91.8% of conventional corn yield and soybean yield
> in the organic system averaged 99.6% of conventional soybean
> yield. By year three, there was no significant difference between
> organic and conventional yields; and both organic corn and
> soybeans exceeded conventional yields in the fourth year (the
> first year after certification).
> ..'
> http://www.i-sis.org.uk/organicproductionworks.php
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>
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(Msg. 66) Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:20 am
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"Oh No" <NotI.TakeThisOut@charlesfrancis.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Thus spake Alan Holmes <alan.holmes.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com>
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>>> --
>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>
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>>And the relationship to fishing is?
>>
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> Global warming will have a dramatic impact on fish stocks everywhere,
> just as it is having an impact on wildlife generally.
>
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not only that, but on the positive side, anyone who can catch their own
protein sources is going to have a positive advantage
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(Msg. 67) Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:19 am
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On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 14:59:05 -0000, "pearl" <tea.DeleteThis@signguestbook.ie>
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>Global Village News and Resources Issue 119 - February, 2007
>http://www.gvnr.com/119/5.htm
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>Taking the Global Local
>
>An initiative to make climate-related issues come alive in local
>communities around the UK has just been launched. Tomorrow's
>England is a project to turn major global issues into 'garden fence
>talk' where the likely impacts of climate change can be investigated,
>region by region or even town by town.
>
>Networks of local groups will high-light the need to tackle climate
>change by working with their communities and exploring changing
>patterns of weather, landscapes, wild animals, plants, land use,
>population movements, lifestyles, and health and well being. The
>project is a joint initiative involving organisations, Beyond Green,
>the Campaign to Protect Rural England, Groundwork UK, National
>Federation of Women's Institutes, National Trust, RSPB, Transport
>2000, the Woodland Trust and WWF-UK and it is part of a scheme
>launched by the Department of Environmental, Food and Rural
>Affairs. This wide network of groups has the potential for reaching
>diverse audiences who are all vital in creating change.
>
>"Tomorrow's England will attempt to address the key question on
>people's minds that is yet to be answered: How will climate change
>effect me? It will paint a vivid picture of future England in terms of
>what we might see from our windows and how we might lead our
>lives," exclaims Stephen Hounsham of Green Engage
>Communications, who are working to deliver the project. "It aims to
>make climate change something we want to talk about and deal with."
>
>If climate change becomes an issue that every individual in each
>community feels confident and motivated to try and prevent, then
>positive changes in our lifestyle will become a realistic goal.
>
>Contact: Green Engage Communications, Beyond Green,
>1 Albemarle Way, London, EC1V 4JB
>Tel: 020 7608 0484 or 07772 886213
>Website: www.climatechangeandme.net
>
>Buckden, in North Yorkshire
>Photo: © Green Engage Communications
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>by Nicole Vosper
>First published in Positive News Issue 50
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>This is one of many stories available from Positive News newspaper.
>For more stories like this please visit: www.positivenews.org.uk
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>
Yet another parasitical grant sucking initiative on the bandwagon of
climate change.
Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk
All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
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