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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:46 am
Post subject: Re: Humans Not So Intelligent In Water [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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oscar wrote:
> "Glorfindel" <notgiven.RemoveThis@all.com> wrote in message
> news:dtbc3i$ia9$1@reader2.nmix.net...

>>People who read SF know that reality is not some absolute
>>that is "out there" -- reality as we perceive it is
>>partly a construct of our individual minds and is
>>slightly different for each person/being. This is
>>a theme in many SF stories.

> Per your very own argument, people who read (and believe - my words)

I don't know what you mean by "believing" SF. It's not a
religion or a scientific paper. You can believe any fiction
in the sense that you believe it describes a truth about
humanity or the universe. SF fans and authors have for years
argued about what makes SF believable enough for the "suspension
of disbelief" required to make a fiction story
emotionally/intellectually convincing. That doesn't mean
readers actually believe there are sentient beings (yet) on
Mars.

> SF know
> absolutely nothing for a fact.... and here is the reason... in your own
> words... [reality is not some absolute that is "out there"]

> A fiction, SF or otherwise, is an imaginative creation or pretense that does
> not represent actuality but has been invented.

Of course is an imaginative creation, but fiction does always
represent actuality to some degree, more or less satisfactorily
depending on the author. Even stories of alien worlds and beings
are comments on our own humanity in some way.

> The oxymoronic idea of
> fictional reality as opposed to (and superior to) factual reality

"Factual" reality as humans understand it is always filtered through
human perceptions. That doesn't mean it is entirely false, or that
written/media fiction is more real, but that what we perceive as
reality is always influenced by our subjective preconceptions to a
degree.

.....

> Anyone offer you a nice white jacket that ties in the back recently?

Not since I last visited a medical doctor for an exam. :)

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