Southern shelters adoption help

"George" <tfg1 RemoveThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> I live in the Northeast. I'm going to be visiting some shelters in my
> area who have told me that the small and medium dogs they have for
> adoption are "rescues from southern shelters".
>
> I'm hoping someone can tell me what this is all about. Why would a
> shelters in the Northeast need to bring dogs up from down south and is
> this all on the up and up... so to speak.
>
> Help and advise, please! Lost my dog of 12 years recently and would like
> to adopt a needy pet but don't want to get burned.

George, it only now dawned on me that you really mean a shelter is pulling
dogs from southern shelters. I had taken your post to mean shelter aka
rescue organization with a facility. If I was wrong then I apologize and
have no idea why shelters would be pulling dogs from other, out of state,
rescues unless there was a huge bust & too many dogs for the locals.
Something I didn't mention before, and should have, is that regardless of
where the dogs came from, they still need homes. While I think a person
should feel comfortable with where they get their dogs from, I think that if
you find the dog you want then you should give him/her a home.

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Tara
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Tara:

Do you know if any money is changing hands? It would seem to be very costly to
bring these dogs up. How does it get paid for?

I called my local Humane Society and they seemed to be very reluctant to talk
about this practice... although when I pressed them they said they did also do
it which completely surprised me.

George
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"George" <tfg1.TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Tara:
>
> Do you know if any money is changing hands? It would seem to be very
costly to
> bring these dogs up. How does it get paid for?
>
> I called my local Humane Society and they seemed to be very reluctant to
talk
> about this practice... although when I pressed them they said they did
also do
> it which completely surprised me.

No, the only money changing hands is the rescue paying the shelter fee which
is normal. Part of what I meant by "monumental", with regards to
transports, is not just the coordination but how many people have to
volunteer. They don't get paid or reimbursed for gas/mileage, they do it
because they want to help. I tend to think that asking 10+ people to drive
2+ hours each to run such a long transport is unnecessary when there are
very likely dogs in the receiving rescue's own state. I tend to think its
borderline-crazy to commit to taking dogs without having a good chunk of the
transport resources in place and then start posting DOGS WILL DIE messages
all over the place.

I should mention that this practice isn't as bad for some purebred rescues.
Admittedly there are some states that just don't have quite the
overpopulation problem as others with regards to individual breeds. So if a
Weim or Boxer rescue in PA has space and there are no dogs in that state
needing help, yet there are dogs in FL and the FL rescues are too full, then
it makes sense to help out. That's not to say there aren't some purebred
rescues who, like all-breed rescues, do have dogs in their own states yet
turn them down in favor of dogs from other states. I don't agree with the
ethics there. I think alot of those cases are rescues looking to fill
orders (someone wanting a particular dog with particular markings or
somesuch) for applicants or falling for aesthetics by taking a prettier dog
from far away over an uglier dog close by.

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Tara
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I thought it was clear. Dogs from down south being trucked up to the Northeast
for adoption via not only private, individual shelters but, apparently now I
have learned, the locals of the nationally run Humane Society.

I have no problem with any pet finding a home. That's why I'm looking to adopt.
Just asking if this is a responsible and accepted practice and the theory behind
it.
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"George" <tfg1 RemoveThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> I live in the Northeast. I'm going to be visiting some shelters in my
> area who have told me that the small and medium dogs they have for
> adoption are "rescues from southern shelters".
>
> I'm hoping someone can tell me what this is all about. Why would a
> shelters in the Northeast need to bring dogs up from down south and is
> this all on the up and up... so to speak.
>
> Help and advise, please! Lost my dog of 12 years recently and would like
> to adopt a needy pet but don't want to get burned.
>
> Thanks.
>

We've sent lots of animals to rescues in the East and West after checking
out their adoption criteria. The spay/neuter programs have been so
successful in those areas that there actually is a shortage of rescue
animals, especially puppies. I only wish there were a shortage of needy
animals here!

Sunflower in that third world country known as Mississippi
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"Sunflower" <sunflwrNOSPAM RemoveThis @midsouth.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "George" <tfg1 RemoveThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:40743193.8D08392C@mindspring.com...
> > I live in the Northeast. I'm going to be visiting some shelters in my
> > area who have told me that the small and medium dogs they have for
> > adoption are "rescues from southern shelters".
> >
> > I'm hoping someone can tell me what this is all about. Why would a
> > shelters in the Northeast need to bring dogs up from down south and is
> > this all on the up and up... so to speak.
> >
> > Help and advise, please! Lost my dog of 12 years recently and would like
> > to adopt a needy pet but don't want to get burned.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
>
> We've sent lots of animals to rescues in the East and West after checking
> out their adoption criteria. The spay/neuter programs have been so
> successful in those areas that there actually is a shortage of rescue
> animals, especially puppies. I only wish there were a shortage of needy
> animals here!
>
> Sunflower in that third world country known as Mississippi

Hi, Sunflower,

Would you email me please? You work with/for a shelter in MS? I'm a
volunteer with a small private rescue just over the border, and I need some
details about sending animals out of state. We're a no-kill, constantly
overloaded and have to turn a lot of dogs away. I've heard there's a
shortage of adoptable rescue dogs in MN, also.

flick 100785
email: flick - at - starband - dot - net
ignore the hyphens, replace "at" and "dot" with appropriate punctuation.

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>
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George wrote:
> I live in the Northeast. I'm going to be visiting some shelters in my
> area who have told me that the small and medium dogs they have for
> adoption are "rescues from southern shelters".
>
> I'm hoping someone can tell me what this is all about. Why would a
> shelters in the Northeast need to bring dogs up from down south and is
> this all on the up and up... so to speak.
>
> Help and advise, please! Lost my dog of 12 years recently and would like
> to adopt a needy pet but don't want to get burned.
>
> Thanks.
>
Granted my rescue is breed specific - Greyhound Rescue.
Greyhound Rescue organizations across the US frequently help
each other out if a group in the North has room or potential
adopters for dogs from the South, where the Rescue groups
frequently run out of room. That is mainly because there
are more tracks down there. But, I could certainly see
shelters cooperating in a similar way - a Northeast shelter
has available space - a Southern shelter has an overflow of
dogs, and rather than resort to putting dogs that are
adoptable to sleep to make more room, they send them up to a
place where there's room. In the end, it all comes down to
saving as many of these animals as we can, or why would we
do this in the first place.

Sigrun
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"No Spam" <grabremoveowski.TakeThisOut@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> George wrote:
> > I live in the Northeast. I'm going to be visiting some shelters in my
> > area who have told me that the small and medium dogs they have for
> > adoption are "rescues from southern shelters".
> >
> > I'm hoping someone can tell me what this is all about. Why would a
> > shelters in the Northeast need to bring dogs up from down south and is
> > this all on the up and up... so to speak.
> >
> > Help and advise, please! Lost my dog of 12 years recently and would like
> > to adopt a needy pet but don't want to get burned.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> Granted my rescue is breed specific - Greyhound Rescue.
> Greyhound Rescue organizations across the US frequently help
> each other out if a group in the North has room or potential
> adopters for dogs from the South, where the Rescue groups
> frequently run out of room. That is mainly because there
> are more tracks down there. But, I could certainly see
> shelters cooperating in a similar way - a Northeast shelter
> has available space - a Southern shelter has an overflow of
> dogs, and rather than resort to putting dogs that are
> adoptable to sleep to make more room, they send them up to a
> place where there's room. In the end, it all comes down to
> saving as many of these animals as we can, or why would we
> do this in the first place.

Here's the part I don't understand, or one of them. How exactly would a
northeast shelter know a southeast shelter needs help? How would it be that
a shelter in PA, for example, would have room enough to turn their
attentions to a shelter 10-16 hours away vs one in another county of PA or
one in OH? The few times I've read extreme CUR run posts going from the
south to the north, where I've caught that its a shelter-shelter deal, the
transport consists of puppies, sometimes purebreds. That's suspicious to
me.

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Tara
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