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Mirek

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:14 am
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I want to make a real treasure chest filled with real gold coins that I
want to put in my swfowlr tank. Anyone know of any negative effects
that might have on my tank inhibitants? couple of small fish with some
inverts. I can imagine some corrosion and damage to the coins but am
not really worried about that . Just the fish and water quality?

thanks
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:38 pm
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"Mirek" <annoyingmirek.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I want to make a real treasure chest filled with real gold coins
>that I
> want to put in my swfowlr tank. Anyone know of any negative effects
> that might have on my tank inhibitants? couple of small fish with
> some
> inverts. I can imagine some corrosion and damage to the coins but
> am
> not really worried about that . Just the fish and water quality?
>


As the metals corrode, the metals in the water will undoubtedly
destroy the inhabitants of your tank. You could consider coating the
coins with clear epoxy or silicone......

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:16 pm
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good thought with the silicine, the coins i have are gold but i still
thought they would corrode in saltwater. You think the silicone will be
ok in the tank?
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Ian Stirling

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:45 am
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Mirek <annoyingmirek.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> good thought with the silicine, the coins i have are gold but i still
> thought they would corrode in saltwater. You think the silicone will be
> ok in the tank?

Pure gold will not corrode in any tank with live fish in.
Most coins probably won't either, unless they are really debased.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:13 pm
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"Ian Stirling" <root.TakeThisOut@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Mirek <annoyingmirek.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>> good thought with the silicine, the coins i have are gold but i
>> still
>> thought they would corrode in saltwater. You think the silicone
>> will be
>> ok in the tank?
>
> Pure gold will not corrode in any tank with live fish in.
> Most coins probably won't either, unless they are really debased.

*Nearly* any metal WILL corrode in water, especially saltwater. Use
nothing metallic in a saltwater tank except the highest quality
stainless steel. Personal experience as well as science backs up my
claim.

Pure silicone is perfectly safe in water, it's what the tanks are
built with.


billy
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Jürgen Exner

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:59 am
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Billy wrote:
> "Mirek" <annoyingmirek.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1130688882.928740.80070@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> I want to make a real treasure chest filled with real gold coins
[...]
> As the metals corrode, the metals in the water will undoubtedly
> destroy the inhabitants of your tank. You could consider coating the
> coins with clear epoxy or silicone......

Oh come on! Unless you fill your tank with hydrofluoric acid there isn't
really much that would be able to corrode gold.

The "chest" would be a different matter, of course.


jue
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Ian Stirling

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:24 pm
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Billy <gordygord2003 DeleteThis @yahoo.uknow> wrote:
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> "Ian Stirling" <root DeleteThis @mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> Mirek <annoyingmirek DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>> good thought with the silicine, the coins i have are gold but i
>>> still
>>> thought they would corrode in saltwater. You think the silicone
>>> will be
>>> ok in the tank?
>>
>> Pure gold will not corrode in any tank with live fish in.
>> Most coins probably won't either, unless they are really debased.
>
> *Nearly* any metal WILL corrode in water, especially saltwater. Use
> nothing metallic in a saltwater tank except the highest quality
> stainless steel. Personal experience as well as science backs up my
> claim.

Ok.
Have you tried gold?
Pure gold is more inert than stainless steel.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:11 pm
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"Ian Stirling" <root.TakeThisOut@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Ok.
> Have you tried gold?
> Pure gold is more inert than stainless steel.
>

Have you ever tried to get enough *pure* gold to make aquarium
decorations? I know there's a lot of money in my tanks, but that's
fricking silly. <g>

bill
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:12 pm
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"Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Oh come on! Unless you fill your tank with hydrofluoric acid there
> isn't really much that would be able to corrode gold.
>


Acquiring gold that is pure enough to not contain other metals (ones
that will corrode) could prove both difficult as well as
prohibitively expensive. Nickel, zinc, iron, etc.....
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:25 am
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Billy <gordygord2003.RemoveThis@yahoo.uknow> wrote:
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> "Ian Stirling" <root.RemoveThis@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> Ok.
>> Have you tried gold?
>> Pure gold is more inert than stainless steel.
>>
>
> Have you ever tried to get enough *pure* gold to make aquarium
> decorations? I know there's a lot of money in my tanks, but that's
> fricking silly. <g>

Coinage gold is generally pure enough to be fairly chemically inert.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:27 pm
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Billy wrote:
> "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:UIThf.547$tg3.255@trnddc02...
>>
>> Oh come on! Unless you fill your tank with hydrofluoric acid there
>> isn't really much that would be able to corrode gold.
>
> Acquiring gold that is pure enough to not contain other metals (ones
> that will corrode) could prove both difficult as well as
> prohibitively expensive. Nickel, zinc, iron, etc.....

True, but the OP was explicitely talking about gold coins.
And those are typically almost 100% pure gold.

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