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Granby

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(Msg. 46) Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:58 pm
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As I leave, I wonder if "Blocking could become a sport in any countey"
Troucle is, "the blocked" keep showing up all over the place".
"Stormmee" <rgrass.RemoveThis@consolidated.net> wrote in message
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> you obviously haven't read enough on this subject and you have also
> obviously chosen to pick and choose rather than reading a full gamut of
> the
> history and laws this discussion is now over for me, don't you ever insult
> anyone by telling them what to be ashamed of, this is very offensive to me
> since DH is a naturalized citizen and I know what that means, Lee
> CatNipped <CatNipped.RemoveThis@PossiblePlaces.com> wrote in message
> news:5oe4scFm8lt9U1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Stormmee" <rgrass.RemoveThis@consolidated.net> wrote in message
>> news:5ocpgaFm5065U1@mid.individual.net...
>> > this isn't about demonizing, its about the laws that are on the books,
> and
>> > if you read them, nowhere is strict enough to suit me, but if you
> compare,
>> > actual crimes on the books, people charged/convicted and time/sentences
>> > they
>> > are more civilized. there are lots of wonderful people anywhere you
> care
>> > to
>> > look its just that most of the good people are busy trying to make a
>> > living
>> > instead of trying to change laws. Lee
>>
>> Sorry, but no, you're wrong. The laws regarding animal abuse in Texas
>> are
>> some of the strictest and the punishments the harshest in the world.
>> It's
> a
>> felony here and you can do *hard time* for it. Texas is also one of the
>> very few places where a jury can award you monetary damages for "pain and
>> suffering" and the emotional harm caused by someone hurting or killing
> your
>> pet (most places will only award the cost of the animal and, sometimes,
> vet
>> bills).
>>
>> I get tickled when Americans believe so fervently that people in the UK
> are
>> so much more civilized because they talk with a pretty accent and stick
>> their pinkies out when drinking tea. I'm not saying that they are any
>> *worse* than people in America, but neither are they any better.
>> Remember
>> this....
>>
>> Until quite recently in the UK, fox hunts were legal where hounds hunted
>> down and then tore apart foxes and the lead horseman was awarded the
>> fox's
>> tail as a trophy.
>>
>> The UK originated the punishment of "hanged, drawn and quartered": [The
>> full sentence passed upon those convicted of High Treason up to 1870 was
> as
>> follows : "That you be drawn on a hurdle to the place of execution where
> you
>> shall be hanged by the neck and being alive cut down, your privy members
>> shall be cut off and your bowels taken out and burned before you, your
> head
>> severed from your body and your body divided into four quarters to be
>> disposed of at the King's pleasure." So not for the faint-hearted
>> then!!]
>> It was the US who originated the law against "cruel and unusual
> punishment".
>>
>> I know there are good laws and bad laws on both sides of "the pond" as
> there
>> are good people and bad people both places too. But please don't try to
>> tell me that my country is any *more* savage or brutal than any other -
> it's
>> just *NOT TRUE*. And as an American, you should be ashamed of yourself
> for
>> thinking so!
>>
>> Hugs,
>>
>> CatNipped
>>
>>
>
>

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Jack Campin - bogus addre

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(Msg. 47) Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:30 pm
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> The culture of hunting is alive and well in Central Texas. Yet, deer get
> killed on the highways all the time and deer run amok come mating
> season. Men are indeed responsible for out of control deer population,
> but not because of not hunting the deer. We build homes and shops and
> highways on *their* territories. We kill wolves and other predators that
> normally would keep their populations in check.

Which is also what's happened in the Scottish Highlands. That barren
heather landscape is artificial - the deer populations are kept so
high by the hunting business (which has eliminated natural predators
like wolves and lynx) that they eat any tree seedlings when they're
inches high. The result for the deer is that they're permanently
malnourished - genetically identical populations exported to New
Zealand and South Georgia grow to double the weight their ancestors
reached in Scotland. (At least deer usually die fairly soon after
being shot. Birds don't, and they're killed in far greater numbers).

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leopardusweidii

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(Msg. 48) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:17 am
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> Anyone with any sense would not have let this young cat out yet and if the
> RSPCA (that's who the shelter was) should say such a thing, then, well
> Cue Helen.

And now I'm back online (YAY!) I take my Cue.....

The RSPCA are Moronic, Cretinous Imbeciles. I don't want to start off
on a rant, because I'll be here until the middle of next week, but
needless to say I will never be rational when discussing them as an
organisation.

And I sincerely hope that Tigger is feeling an awful lot better soon
and that he is on the mend quickly. It might be worth suggesting to
your brother that the best age for Tigger to start going out and about
is at about 9 -12 months UNDER SUPERVISION and most certainly after
he's had his nadgers nipped.

Lily wasn't allowed out unaccompanied through the catflap until April
this year. She was 18 months old by then.

Helen M
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leopardusweidii

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(Msg. 49) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:19 am
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> Wow, that boggles the mind, you guys don't have falcons or owls or
> vultures?!!. Here we have eagles, falcons, owls, and vultures - and the
> list of four-legged predators in *huge*. No wonder the mores of pet
> ownership are so different.

We do have raptors here, but not the cross section of *large* raptors
that you do in the USA. And if someone saw a vulture in the UK it
would all over the national press as a zoo escapee!

Helen M
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wafflycat

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(Msg. 50) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:02 pm
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<leopardusweidii RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> Wow, that boggles the mind, you guys don't have falcons or owls or
>> vultures?!!. Here we have eagles, falcons, owls, and vultures - and the
>> list of four-legged predators in *huge*. No wonder the mores of pet
>> ownership are so different.
>
> We do have raptors here, but not the cross section of *large* raptors
> that you do in the USA. And if someone saw a vulture in the UK it
> would all over the national press as a zoo escapee!
>
> Helen M
>

Speaking of which...

Some time ago, Vernon & I were out on our bicycles pootling round the lanes
of Norfolk. There was the shape of a large bird in the sky. So I turn to
Vernon & say words to the effect of, "You'd better get a move on or the
vulture will have you." On getting home, reading the local rag, lo and
behold an article on a vulture escaped from a collection. It was later
recaptured :-)

In any event, the raptors of the UK aren't exactly interested in felines.
The only real possible one which *might* show an interest would be a golden
eagle as as they are only found in *very remote* areas, the chances of them
coming across a British moggies are very small indeed - the Scottish
Highlands being exceedingly scarely populated.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt

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(Msg. 51) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:23 pm
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leopardusweidii.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> > Wow, that boggles the mind, you guys don't have falcons or owls or
> > vultures?!!. Here we have eagles, falcons, owls, and vultures - and the
> > list of four-legged predators in *huge*. No wonder the mores of pet
> > ownership are so different.

> We do have raptors here, but not the cross section of *large* raptors
> that you do in the USA. And if someone saw a vulture in the UK it
> would all over the national press as a zoo escapee!

Please excuse my ignorance, but I thought vultures only ate carrion.
Do they also hunt live prey?

Joyce
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(Msg. 52) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:32 pm
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<jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt.TakeThisOut@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> leopardusweidii.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
> > > Wow, that boggles the mind, you guys don't have falcons or owls or
> > > vultures?!!. Here we have eagles, falcons, owls, and vultures - and
> > > the
> > > list of four-legged predators in *huge*. No wonder the mores of pet
> > > ownership are so different.
>
> > We do have raptors here, but not the cross section of *large* raptors
> > that you do in the USA. And if someone saw a vulture in the UK it
> > would all over the national press as a zoo escapee!
>
> Please excuse my ignorance, but I thought vultures only ate carrion.
> Do they also hunt live prey?
>
> Joyce

Vultures are carrion-eaters. Just don't go into a deep sleep anywhere near
one ;-)
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(Msg. 53) Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:07 am
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<jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt.RemoveThis@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> leopardusweidii.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
> > > Wow, that boggles the mind, you guys don't have falcons or owls or
> > > vultures?!!. Here we have eagles, falcons, owls, and vultures - and
> > > the
> > > list of four-legged predators in *huge*. No wonder the mores of pet
> > > ownership are so different.
>
> > We do have raptors here, but not the cross section of *large* raptors
> > that you do in the USA. And if someone saw a vulture in the UK it
> > would all over the national press as a zoo escapee!
>
> Please excuse my ignorance, but I thought vultures only ate carrion.
> Do they also hunt live prey?

They are mainly carrion eaters, but, like any animal, will eat anything dead
*or* living when hungry. They have pretty fearsome beaks and talons and can
easily kill small prey.

Hugs,

CatNipped

>
> Joyce
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