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ganesh

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:55 pm
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Hi there,

I am living in India. I've been feeding stray dogs in my area for quiet
some time. Now suddenly there has been this problem. One of the dog has
badly sick as it gave birth to a puppy and has aquired some skin
disease. The neighbouring people instead of taking that poor dog to the
doctors are now asking me why are you feeding these dogs.

Today a guy almost tried to get into an argument with me. I am unaware
of wether what I am now doing is right or wrong. If I stop feeding then
the dogs health may further detiorate. Now it has started recovering
and now in a far better condition.

Please advice.

Ganesh J. Acharya
India

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:05 am
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ganesh wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I am living in India. I've been feeding stray dogs in my area for quiet
> some time. Now suddenly there has been this problem. One of the dog has
> badly sick as it gave birth to a puppy and has aquired some skin
> disease. The neighbouring people instead of taking that poor dog to the
> doctors are now asking me why are you feeding these dogs.
>
> Today a guy almost tried to get into an argument with me. I am unaware
> of wether what I am now doing is right or wrong. If I stop feeding then
> the dogs health may further detiorate. Now it has started recovering
> and now in a far better condition.
>
> Please advice.
>
> Ganesh J. Acharya
> India

hello ganesh
well good for you actually. these dogs need someone who cares enough to
do something.
i will fish around see if i can find a welfare organisation that might
be able to help some way? with the sheer amount of ppl here we should
be able to find something.
maybe if you can get a pic of the skin and one of us may have an idea
of what it could be...will she let you get close enough? off the top of
my head im thinking mange.
anyone else?
i have a friend who visits bali regular from the uk, maybe if the guys
here can give you an idea on what you need i can get it and give it to
my friend to post on to you??

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:16 am
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ganesh wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I am living in India. I've been feeding stray dogs in my area for quiet
> some time. Now suddenly there has been this problem. One of the dog has
> badly sick as it gave birth to a puppy and has aquired some skin
> disease. The neighbouring people instead of taking that poor dog to the
> doctors are now asking me why are you feeding these dogs.
>
> Today a guy almost tried to get into an argument with me. I am unaware
> of wether what I am now doing is right or wrong. If I stop feeding then
> the dogs health may further detiorate. Now it has started recovering
> and now in a far better condition.
>
> Please advice.
>
> Ganesh J. Acharya
> India

i see no one else has replied to you, thats such a shame i hoped they
would. i found a group named SPANA which stands for the society for the
protection of animals abroad. may they have a website?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:14 am
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Michael A. Ball wrote:
> On 7 Mar 2006 03:16:15 -0800, "dallygirl" <kwickwick RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >i see no one else has replied to you, thats such a shame i hoped they
> >would. i found a group named SPANA which stands for the society for the
> >protection of animals abroad. may they have a website?
>
> Well, what can we say? Advising anyone on how to maintain a stray dog population is
> against everything I fight for.
>
> I don't believe in perpetuating the stay dog population; so, that rules out feeding them.
> Using food to capture them is fine, and often the only way, but feeding them to keep them
> in a highly vulnerable state, and in the reproduction business, is simply wrong.
>
> www.spana.org A British group founded in 1923 to help care for working animals. With
> Thousands of animals being killed in the US each day, I can't support SPANA, but I wish
> them well.
>
>
> A dog's life is too short; their only fault really.

thanks for your reply michael and the spana info. i was hoping for
someone who might know of an organisation with a scheme such as the
capture, neutuer release program.
its been very successful in thailand with soi dogs, is there one
running in india that anyone knows of?
i will ask my friend when i see her next, i think she is still out in
india. its raining here i hope shes got it better.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:04 am
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On 7 Mar 2006 03:16:15 -0800, "dallygirl" <kwickwick.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>i see no one else has replied to you, thats such a shame i hoped they
>would. i found a group named SPANA which stands for the society for the
>protection of animals abroad. may they have a website?

Well, what can we say? Advising anyone on how to maintain a stray dog population is
against everything I fight for.

I don't believe in perpetuating the stay dog population; so, that rules out feeding them.
Using food to capture them is fine, and often the only way, but feeding them to keep them
in a highly vulnerable state, and in the reproduction business, is simply wrong.

www.spana.org A British group founded in 1923 to help care for working animals. With
Thousands of animals being killed in the US each day, I can't support SPANA, but I wish
them well.


A dog's life is too short; their only fault really.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:15 am
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I don't believe in perpetuating the stay dog population; so, that rules
out feeding them.
Using food to capture them is fine, and often the only way, but feeding
them to keep them
in a highly vulnerable state, and in the reproduction business, is
simply wrong.

Well who decides who should live in this world and who should perish..
has GOD made this world only for the HUMANS...?

The rate at which Humans are growing seems more vulnerable.. than these
harmless animals.

Please clarify I did not understand you!!! I fed the dog.. Its
recovered far now... and its health's improving... day by day... i
think someone's taken that to the doctor too.. otherwise it should not
have recovered this far...

Hey GUYs is this world only us HUMANS?

Thanks!
Ganesh J. Acharya

Ganesh J. Acharya
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:33 pm
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On 7 Mar 2006 08:14:07 -0800, "dallygirl" <kwickwick RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>... a scheme such as the
>capture, neutuer release program.
>its been very successful in thailand with soi dogs,...

How do you measure the "success" of a program that leaves dogs running at large,
unprotected from disease, predictors and civilization? I think the word "scheme" aptly
describes such a process.

Evidently, you're able to endorse this sort of thing, with a clear conscience, but I see
it as diametrically opposed to the right thing.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:09 pm
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"Michael A. Ball" <Guardian RemoveThis @wireco.net> wrote in message
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> How do you measure the "success" of a program that leaves dogs running at
> large,
> unprotected from disease, predictors and civilization? I think the word
> "scheme" aptly
> describes such a process.
>
> Evidently, you're able to endorse this sort of thing, with a clear
> conscience, but I see
> it as diametrically opposed to the right thing.

I have never understood the feral cat trap, spay/neuter, and release
programs, either. I guess there are some people who want to leave the
life/death/disease thing up to Mother Nature and not interfere with it. Or
something like that.

Perhaps that is the OPs philosophy. Isn't the OP posting from India?
Hindu, maybe? Kill no animals?

flick 100785

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> Whatever it takes.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:05 am
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Papa Dog wrote:
> In article <96aec$440e3cc7$94402b1b$15882@STARBAND.NET>,
> flick DeleteThis @starband.net says...
> > I have never understood the feral cat trap, spay/neuter, and release
> > programs, either. I guess there are some people who want to leave the
> > life/death/disease thing up to Mother Nature and not interfere with it. Or
> > something like that.
> >
> >
> I don't either. I had a feral cat come out of no where after my little
> chi a few weeks ago. No telling what kind of diseases he had. My little
> Chi was running to me from him. I trapped that bad boy and sent him to
> the County Pound. They took all his nine lives and hes in kitty heaven.
> Thats where all the feral cats need to go.
>
> Papa

did i say cats??? i mean dogs. ganesh im glad the dog is getting
better, why not consider adopting her and rehomeing her pup?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:19 am
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In article <96aec$440e3cc7$94402b1b$15882@STARBAND.NET>,
flick DeleteThis @starband.net says...
> I have never understood the feral cat trap, spay/neuter, and release
> programs, either. I guess there are some people who want to leave the
> life/death/disease thing up to Mother Nature and not interfere with it. Or
> something like that.
>
>
I don't either. I had a feral cat come out of no where after my little
chi a few weeks ago. No telling what kind of diseases he had. My little
Chi was running to me from him. I trapped that bad boy and sent him to
the County Pound. They took all his nine lives and hes in kitty heaven.
Thats where all the feral cats need to go.

Papa
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:54 am
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"dallygirl" <kwickwick DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> did i say cats??? i mean dogs. ganesh im glad the dog is getting
> better, why not consider adopting her and rehomeing her pup?

To feed strays so you can capture them is one thing. To feed them just to
feed them, I agree with the other poster that you're going to add to the
overpopulation/stray problem. Not to mention that they may have diseases,
etc.

flick 100785
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:33 pm
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In many places, village dogs are like the trees, they come with the
territory...this man has taken pity and fed one in need...he's done
what he could to help her survive. This isn't
wrong...especially from the ill creature's point of view. It doesn't
matter the religion, or laws
or lofty goals of organizations, this occurs...and if it never did,
we'd never have breeds or pets. Lighten up people!

Ganesh, do what you can do. May God Bless you and this creature!
Live and let live.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:43 pm
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On 8 Mar 2006 16:33:13 -0800, danoas.TakeThisOut@netscape.net wrote:

>In many places, village dogs are like the trees, they come with the
>territory...this man has taken pity and fed one in need...he's done
>what he could to help her survive. This isn't
>wrong...Lighten up people!

You just don't get it; do you? It is wrong to enable the creation of animals just so they
can face horrible conditions, a life of suffering and a torturous death.

The OP did not help this dog survive: he enabled her to suffer longer and to create even
more suffering dogs. How can this possibly be the right thing to do!

I do not understand how you can be so enthusiastic about an activity that is nothing more
than animal cruelty. And you want others to "lighten up"! Okay, I will "lighten up"--when
hell freezes over.


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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:35 pm
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Ok .. I wish you be born a dog tomorrow... and you wish the same to
me.. i helped that dog who's caught unnaturally into its non natural
enviornment... who's naturally made to eat rotten waste on the streets
I would eat fresh biscuts as I fed these dogs the same. I hope what's
there for you.. for ignoring what you seen...
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:58 am
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On 9 Mar 2006 22:35:25 -0800, "ganesh" <ganeshjacharya DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>Ok .. I wish you be born a dog tomorrow... and you wish the same to
>me.. i helped that dog who's caught unnaturally into its non natural
>enviornment... who's naturally made to eat rotten waste on the streets
>I would eat fresh biscuts as I fed these dogs the same. I hope what's
>there for you.. for ignoring what you seen...

How amusing. I do not want you to be born a dog tomorrow; and frankly, you wishes for me
to be born a dog tomorrow don't impress me.

I realize you are trying to be kind to those dogs, but some things, that seem to be kind,
are not kind at all, in the long run. Obviously I can't change your mind.

When you see new puppies or new dogs, some of which will be sick, injured or dead, I hope
you will realize that people like you helped cause their suffering.

When I die, I want to go where dogs go!
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