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PLG

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Since: Mar 16, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:55 am
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The main problem with rats, as far as I can see, is that they cause so
much love, far more than a cat or a dog could possibly cause, and then
they die, leaving a hole that can never be filled by any other pet,
even another rat.

PLG

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Marlo Miller

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:00 am
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I couldn't agree more. I miss my rats more than any other pet. And they
have such short little lives, it seems so unfair.
-Marlo

PLG wrote:
> The main problem with rats, as far as I can see, is that they cause so
> much love, far more than a cat or a dog could possibly cause, and then
> they die, leaving a hole that can never be filled by any other pet,
> even another rat.
>
> PLG

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:49 am
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Very true. "Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved
at all". But I agree with Marlo, the lives of rats are far too short.

PLG

On Mar 25, 7:19 pm, "Kate" <ollie... RemoveThis @nogmail.com> wrote:
> How true... but I wouldn't want to miss that kind of love for anything....
>
> Regards Kate
>
> "PLG" <pro.love.g... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c61fed91-2f96-46b2-af1c-852d3a7d4710@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > The main problem with rats, as far as I can see, is that they cause so
> > much love, far more than a cat or a dog could possibly cause, and then
> > they die, leaving a hole that can never be filled by any other pet,
> > even another rat.
>
> > PLG
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Kate

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:19 pm
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How true... but I wouldn't want to miss that kind of love for anything....

Regards Kate

"PLG" <pro.love.girl.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> The main problem with rats, as far as I can see, is that they cause so
> much love, far more than a cat or a dog could possibly cause, and then
> they die, leaving a hole that can never be filled by any other pet,
> even another rat.
>
> PLG
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Kate

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:06 pm
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A Rats life is only short when compared to our lives. If our hearts
beat at the incredible speed per minute that theirs do then we would
only last a couple of years on average too. I feel sad too that it
seems soo short... but when I watch these guys I know in my heart of
hearts they are packing a lot into every minute of their wee lives. I
would love it if my boys could live to the ages of my cats, dog and
hopefully my housebun.

Regards Kate

PLG wrote:
> Very true. "Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved
> at all". But I agree with Marlo, the lives of rats are far too short.
>
> PLG
>
> On Mar 25, 7:19 pm, "Kate" <ollie... RemoveThis @nogmail.com> wrote:
>> How true... but I wouldn't want to miss that kind of love for anything....
>>
>> Regards Kate
>>
>> "PLG" <pro.love.g... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:c61fed91-2f96-46b2-af1c-852d3a7d4710@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> The main problem with rats, as far as I can see, is that they cause so
>>> much love, far more than a cat or a dog could possibly cause, and then
>>> they die, leaving a hole that can never be filled by any other pet,
>>> even another rat.
>>> PLG
>


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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:07 pm
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http://community.webshots.com/user/ollieogg

Wow, you have so many beautiful rats. Lucky girl! I suppose some of
them are gone now? I like your bunnies, too.

PLG

On Mar 27, 5:06 pm, Kate <ollie....TakeThisOut@sodoffgmail.com> wrote:
> A Rats life is only short when compared to our lives. If our hearts
> beat at the incredible speed per minute that theirs do then we would
> only last a couple of years on average too. I feel sad too that it
> seems soo short... but when I watch these guys I know in my heart of
> hearts they are packing a lot into every minute of their wee lives. I
> would love it if my boys could live to the ages of my cats, dog and
> hopefully my housebun.
>
> Regards Kate
>
>
>
> PLG wrote:
> > Very true. "Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved
> > at all". But I agree with Marlo, the lives of rats are far too short.
>
> > PLG
>
> > On Mar 25, 7:19 pm, "Kate" <ollie....TakeThisOut@nogmail.com> wrote:
> >> How true... but I wouldn't want to miss that kind of love for anything....
>
> >> Regards Kate
>
> >> "PLG" <pro.love.g....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:c61fed91-2f96-46b2-af1c-852d3a7d4710@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> The main problem with rats, as far as I can see, is that they cause so
> >>> much love, far more than a cat or a dog could possibly cause, and then
> >>> they die, leaving a hole that can never be filled by any other pet,
> >>> even another rat.
> >>> PLG
>
> --http://community.webshots.com/user/ollieogg
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Dave Ryman

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:07 pm
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Kate <ollieogg.DeleteThis@sodoffgmail.com> wrote in
news:fsf6ej$pjo$1@news.datemas.de:

> A Rats life is only short when compared to our lives. If our hearts
> beat at the incredible speed per minute that theirs do then we would
> only last a couple of years on average too. I feel sad too that it
> seems soo short... but when I watch these guys I know in my heart of
> hearts they are packing a lot into every minute of their wee lives. I
> would love it if my boys could live to the ages of my cats, dog and
> hopefully my housebun.
>
> Regards Kate
>
(snip)

I've heard this theory, too. If you look at most animals, then life span
measured as number of heart beats is roughly the same. So, for example,
small rodents have very fast heart rates and live for only a matter of
years, and giant tortise hearts beat very very slowly and they live for
centuries. It's more likely, IMHO, that the heart beat and life span are
both indicators of metabolic rate, so a low Metabolic rate means a long
life (less wear and tear) and slow heart beat (less oxygen to get around
the system): If it was a direct connection between life expectancy and
heart beat, then almost all animals would die of heart failure (unless
eaten first!).

However, this doesn't explain birds. We have some finches which are now
about 10 years old, and their hearts pound away as if engineered by
Ferrari. As another example, Parrots can live as long as humans - with
many times the heart rate: Must be their healthy diet of fruit seeds and
nuts!


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Kate

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:16 pm
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Sadly we only have 3 young boys now. We have had to increase our number to
3 when we were actually trying to let nature take its course and our last
two would die naturally around the same age. Sadly this didn't eventuate
and one of our 1 year olds became very ill and had to be PTS so we ended up
getting another young pair. So for now we have Silber, Riley and Axel 3
hilarious wee creatures indeed.
Regards Kate
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> http://community.webshots.com/user/ollieogg
>
> Wow, you have so many beautiful rats. Lucky girl! I suppose some of
> them are gone now? I like your bunnies, too.
>
> PLG
>
> On Mar 27, 5:06 pm, Kate <ollie... DeleteThis @sodoffgmail.com> wrote:
>> A Rats life is only short when compared to our lives. If our hearts
>> beat at the incredible speed per minute that theirs do then we would
>> only last a couple of years on average too. I feel sad too that it
>> seems soo short... but when I watch these guys I know in my heart of
>> hearts they are packing a lot into every minute of their wee lives. I
>> would love it if my boys could live to the ages of my cats, dog and
>> hopefully my housebun.
>>
>> Regards Kate
>>
>>
>>
>> PLG wrote:
>> > Very true. "Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved
>> > at all". But I agree with Marlo, the lives of rats are far too short.
>>
>> > PLG
>>
>> > On Mar 25, 7:19 pm, "Kate" <ollie... DeleteThis @nogmail.com> wrote:
>> >> How true... but I wouldn't want to miss that kind of love for
>> >> anything....
>>
>> >> Regards Kate
>>
>> >> "PLG" <pro.love.g... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:c61fed91-2f96-46b2-af1c-852d3a7d4710@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >>> The main problem with rats, as far as I can see, is that they cause
>> >>> so
>> >>> much love, far more than a cat or a dog could possibly cause, and
>> >>> then
>> >>> they die, leaving a hole that can never be filled by any other pet,
>> >>> even another rat.
>> >>> PLG
>>
>> --http://community.webshots.com/user/ollieogg
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:17 pm
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It could be genetics too :(
"Dave Ryman" <dave_rymanNOSPAM.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Kate <ollieogg.RemoveThis@sodoffgmail.com> wrote in
> news:fsf6ej$pjo$1@news.datemas.de:
>
>> A Rats life is only short when compared to our lives. If our hearts
>> beat at the incredible speed per minute that theirs do then we would
>> only last a couple of years on average too. I feel sad too that it
>> seems soo short... but when I watch these guys I know in my heart of
>> hearts they are packing a lot into every minute of their wee lives. I
>> would love it if my boys could live to the ages of my cats, dog and
>> hopefully my housebun.
>>
>> Regards Kate
>>
> (snip)
>
> I've heard this theory, too. If you look at most animals, then life span
> measured as number of heart beats is roughly the same. So, for example,
> small rodents have very fast heart rates and live for only a matter of
> years, and giant tortise hearts beat very very slowly and they live for
> centuries. It's more likely, IMHO, that the heart beat and life span are
> both indicators of metabolic rate, so a low Metabolic rate means a long
> life (less wear and tear) and slow heart beat (less oxygen to get around
> the system): If it was a direct connection between life expectancy and
> heart beat, then almost all animals would die of heart failure (unless
> eaten first!).
>
> However, this doesn't explain birds. We have some finches which are now
> about 10 years old, and their hearts pound away as if engineered by
> Ferrari. As another example, Parrots can live as long as humans - with
> many times the heart rate: Must be their healthy diet of fruit seeds and
> nuts!
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> email: dave_ryman.RemoveThis@hotmailNOSPAM.com
>
> My Homepage: http://www.daveryman.com
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julia

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:38 am
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Rats squash in loads of love fun and cuddles in their short life, which
makes them special:-)


"Kate" <ollieogg.TakeThisOut@nogmail.com> wrote in message
news:fsnib8$qj7$1@news.datemas.de...
> It could be genetics too :(
> "Dave Ryman" <dave_rymanNOSPAM.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A707B490CD58daverymanhotmailcom@62.253.170.163...
>> Kate <ollieogg.TakeThisOut@sodoffgmail.com> wrote in
>> news:fsf6ej$pjo$1@news.datemas.de:
>>
>>> A Rats life is only short when compared to our lives. If our hearts
>>> beat at the incredible speed per minute that theirs do then we would
>>> only last a couple of years on average too. I feel sad too that it
>>> seems soo short... but when I watch these guys I know in my heart of
>>> hearts they are packing a lot into every minute of their wee lives. I
>>> would love it if my boys could live to the ages of my cats, dog and
>>> hopefully my housebun.
>>>
>>> Regards Kate
>>>
>> (snip)
>>
>> I've heard this theory, too. If you look at most animals, then life span
>> measured as number of heart beats is roughly the same. So, for example,
>> small rodents have very fast heart rates and live for only a matter of
>> years, and giant tortise hearts beat very very slowly and they live for
>> centuries. It's more likely, IMHO, that the heart beat and life span are
>> both indicators of metabolic rate, so a low Metabolic rate means a long
>> life (less wear and tear) and slow heart beat (less oxygen to get around
>> the system): If it was a direct connection between life expectancy and
>> heart beat, then almost all animals would die of heart failure (unless
>> eaten first!).
>>
>> However, this doesn't explain birds. We have some finches which are now
>> about 10 years old, and their hearts pound away as if engineered by
>> Ferrari. As another example, Parrots can live as long as humans - with
>> many times the heart rate: Must be their healthy diet of fruit seeds and
>> nuts!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>> email: dave_ryman.TakeThisOut@hotmailNOSPAM.com
>>
>> My Homepage: http://www.daveryman.com
>
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